Carbs...
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Depending on the rest of your diet/exercise a little fruit is not a bad thing!
My doc and I both agree that for me, personally, carbs are not my friend. I can eat protein or veggies and my body seems to burn through it like wildfire...carbs eaten (same calorie amount) seem to slow me down.
So I minimize carbs as much as possible whether fruit, bread or other stuff.0 -
OP-I hope you didn't get too discouraged. You will find many people that respond don't always read every comment on the forum, even though I think they should. As I am a type 1 Diabetic, I need carbs to function, but I can't have too many at a time, for obvious reasons. There is something called the glycemic index(GI).
The lower the GI--the less sugar(natural or otherwise) and carbohydrates it contains. When it comes to fruit- Bananas, apples, and pears have a higher GI. Each large fruit of those three contains roughly 26-35g of carbohydrates. Grapes, whether red or green, also have a higher GI. Some examples of the lower GI fruit are Berries( blueberries, respberries, strawberries), Cherries, grapefuit, cantaloupe, honedew, watermelon, etc. As an example- if you eat 1 cup of strawberries it would have the same effect as 1/2 cup of grapes. You'll have the same amount of carbs- only by choosing the one with the lower GI- you get to eat more
Have you tried silk pure almond milk? I do have a friend that is on a gluten free diet and she is lactose intolerant-- but she can drink that and put that in her smoothies. Everyone's different but it was just an idea Hope this helps ya. Good luck
Thanks for the tip
I have a book about high/low GI actually which is really interesting, i might give it another lookie and see what i can tweak
I also have some almond milk (and rice milk, and hemp milk lol) so i will see what Hubby thinks of swapping that for the juice in the smoothies tomorrow morning.
cheers for the tips
Keep in mind, unless you are diabetic, it's been proven that a low GI diet is not more beneficial than a high GI diet. It's mostly calories in vs out. Some calories, such as lean meats, fruits and veggies are more beneficial than processed foods and can help weight loss. But if you really pay attention to anything, it's protein and calories. I eat 4 servings a fruit (generally, banana's apples and grapes as they are in season) a day without issue in terms of fat loss and I only have 7 lbs more of fat to lose to hit 6% body fat. If you exercise (more specifically weight training with some cardio) and have a moderate deficit, then there won't be an issue.0 -
There are good carbs and bad carbs. Fruit and veges are healthy for you. Try eliminating white flour carbs, those are the ones that turn to sugar after you digest them.0
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My suggestion, check with your doctor or a nutritionist. dieting is just so very specific to the individual. As a type 2 Diabetic, Carbs are my nemesis, but I still do them, I just try to be smarter about them. Professional medical adivce from someone you trust may help idetify what works and doesn't for your body. My doctor turned me on to this website, and 48 lbs later I've found good advice, some not so good, and some thats just not going to work for me. Gotta weed thru it !0
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To prevent myself from going over on carbs, i have to exercise each day for at least half an hour
I dont get it, why is eating a banana so bad? Or an apple?
I eat pretty healthy now, but i worry about having too many carbs and i would far rather be under each day than over
but its always tipping the scale and i dont like it!
Give up the juice and the snack bar and you lose 100 carbs on the Saturday or Sunday I looked at. Whole fruit is good. Juice is just empty calories. Drink water instead.
While I don't disagree that whole fruit is better than juice, I have to say that there is no such thing as "empty calories."
The apple juice i use to make my smoothie smooth? Gonna keep that i reckon
I am not on a 'fad diet' i am intollerant to gluten and dairy
This website is really quite rude, should we not be supporting each other?
Yes i do have a snack each day, mostly because i dont have TIME to prepare more than 3 meals, i am a very hard working mum of 2
I am sorry i posted, please no more 'support' I wont make the mistake of posting anything again.
Are you ****ing kidding me? No one was rude to you at all. Where the hell do you people come from that find offense at absolutely nothing. Everyone gave you very solid, nonjudgmental advice.
I am blown away.
How is assuming i am on a 'faddy diet' anything but rude?
Can you please quote the exact post where someone said that? I think you're doing the assuming here. You post a "what's a good carb or bad carb" style post, people point out that the idea of carbs being bad is linked specifically with "fad" diets (think Atkins), and that a misinformed mindset about carbs has resulted. No one said you were on a "faddy diet" (did anyone even say that term, "faddy"?)--they said that the idea of carbs being "bad" is typical of faddy diets. The things you said lined up with that sort of mindset. No one insulted your intelligence--they just pointed out that it's very common for people to think carbs are bad because of the mass information out there on fad diets, such as low-carb. Some people have a hard time understanding intent on the internet, and I see that you became very defensive very quickly over misunderstood posts.0 -
There are good carbs and bad carbs. Fruit and veges are healthy for you. Try eliminating white flour carbs, those are the ones that turn to sugar after you digest them.
All carbs turn to glucose after you digest them, whether they are white flour, potatoes, whole grain, fruit, veggie, does not matter.
Protein turns to glucose too.
There are not good carbs or bad carbs. There are better for you carbs. Yes, spinach is better than a kit kat, but both can have a place in a healthy diet.0 -
I dont eat gluten or dairy, so i only eat pitta/flatbread if i have made it myself!
I dont eat white rice
the things that seem to be high in carbs, are bananas (i often have 2 a day) and apples etc
I never really go over with calories, often way under, i average around 1800 a day but breastfeeding takes off 500 of that...
I just dont get how i can eat 'less' carbs, i dont eat bread/rice/pasta generally at all. seems odd.
...Perfect example of the confusion caused by fad diets...
If you are gluten and dairy free, and rice free, etc. then you need to eat plenty of veggies and an extra serving or two of fruit. A high amount of carbohydrates would be more than 65% of your calories coming from carbs. For a healthy adult, anywhere from 40-65% is a decent range for carbohydrates. So on 1800 per day, you are safe between 150-300g of carbohydrates. (Though it would be difficult to get that many in with only fruits and veggies.)
A low-carb diet has no benefit, unless you have a medical condition that requires you to eat that way. Low carb is less than 75g per day. Some people consider 20-50g per day as ideal for low-carb folks.
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Carbs aren't bad, but I find I need to keep them lower and protein higher in order to feel full and not get all woozy on a deficit. Also, the carb staples are just a lot of calories for not much food - I prefer filling up on meat and veggies. That said, my "sugars" are always way high due to fruit. But I feel great and am losing weight, so what do I care?0
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I dont eat gluten or dairy, so i only eat pitta/flatbread if i have made it myself!
I dont eat white rice
the things that seem to be high in carbs, are bananas (i often have 2 a day) and apples etc
I never really go over with calories, often way under, i average around 1800 a day but breastfeeding takes off 500 of that...
I just dont get how i can eat 'less' carbs, i dont eat bread/rice/pasta generally at all. seems odd.
...Perfect example of the confusion caused by fad diets...
If you are gluten and dairy free, and rice free, etc. then you need to eat plenty of veggies and an extra serving or two of fruit. A high amount of carbohydrates would be more than 65% of your calories coming from carbs. For a healthy adult, anywhere from 40-65% is a decent range for carbohydrates. So on 1800 per day, you are safe between 150-300g of carbohydrates. (Though it would be difficult to get that many in with only fruits and veggies.)
A low-carb diet has no benefit, unless you have a medical condition that requires you to eat that way. Low carb is less than 75g per day. Some people consider 20-50g per day as ideal for low-carb folks.
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This does not say you are on a fad diet. You are jumping to conclusions and looking for a fight. Your post responding to this was incredibly rude. She was just explaining the number of carbs needed in a day and the difference between high carbs vs. low carbs.0 -
To prevent myself from going over on carbs, i have to exercise each day for at least half an hour
I dont get it, why is eating a banana so bad? Or an apple?
I eat pretty healthy now, but i worry about having too many carbs and i would far rather be under each day than over
but its always tipping the scale and i dont like it!
I took a peek at your diary. First off you are breastfeeding which adds 500 calories to your daily intake - I would think in adding those 500 it would also increase the amount of carbs you can consume everyday. I don't know if MFP does that adjustment when you enter the breastfeeding in as a (-500).
Also you are definitely eating a lot of fruit. Sometimes 2 glasses of apple juice a day and 2 bananas a day. BUT since you are breastfeeding I think this is a healthy thing.
Bottom line...don't worry if you're a little bit over!!!0 -
To prevent myself from going over on carbs, i have to exercise each day for at least half an hour
I dont get it, why is eating a banana so bad? Or an apple?
I eat pretty healthy now, but i worry about having too many carbs and i would far rather be under each day than over
but its always tipping the scale and i dont like it!
I took a peek at your diary. First off you are breastfeeding which adds 500 calories to your daily intake - I would think in adding those 500 it would also increase the amount of carbs you can consume everyday. I don't know if MFP does that adjustment when you enter the breastfeeding in as a (-500).
Also you are definitely eating a lot of fruit. Sometimes 2 glasses of apple juice a day and 2 bananas a day. BUT since you are breastfeeding I think this is a healthy thing.
Bottom line...don't worry if you're a little bit over!!!
MFP does not adjust the macros for the -500 when you enter it as food. Instead, the 500 calories from breastfeeding should be added as an exercise. This will adjust the macros.0 -
There are good carbs and bad carbs. Fruit and veges are healthy for you. Try eliminating white flour carbs, those are the ones that turn to sugar after you digest them.
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you mean nutrient dense carbs and not nutrient dense carb when you say good and bad. I agree that nutrient dense foods are preffered and lead to better heatlh. However, if you ingegst carbs in excess of what your body can use in a day, they will be stored as fat. There is a reason why you set macronutrient goals and a priortiy to them 1) protein goal 2) fats goal (these are the 2 essential nutrients) the the balance carbs. It isn't like fruit and veggies "don't count". I'm not sure if that is what you are suggesting but it sounds like it.
Bottom line, eat nutrient dense carbs as shoot to hit your macro targets.0 -
LOL - just checked your diary - you are not going over on anything - in fact you are going under significantly.0
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I dont eat gluten or dairy, so i only eat pitta/flatbread if i have made it myself!
I dont eat white rice
the things that seem to be high in carbs, are bananas (i often have 2 a day) and apples etc
I never really go over with calories, often way under, i average around 1800 a day but breastfeeding takes off 500 of that...
I just dont get how i can eat 'less' carbs, i dont eat bread/rice/pasta generally at all. seems odd.
...Perfect example of the confusion caused by fad diets...
If you are gluten and dairy free, and rice free, etc. then you need to eat plenty of veggies and an extra serving or two of fruit. A high amount of carbohydrates would be more than 65% of your calories coming from carbs. For a healthy adult, anywhere from 40-65% is a decent range for carbohydrates. So on 1800 per day, you are safe between 150-300g of carbohydrates. (Though it would be difficult to get that many in with only fruits and veggies.)
A low-carb diet has no benefit, unless you have a medical condition that requires you to eat that way. Low carb is less than 75g per day. Some people consider 20-50g per day as ideal for low-carb folks.
Quoted.
Like becca already pointed out: you don't seem to understand the things you read on the forums, so perhaps you should not come here if you're only looking to be aggressive, overly defensive, and rude to others. I would almost say "projection" seems to be the heart of your complaints.0 -
There is no such thing as good carb vs bad carb. There are high GI & low GI foods which are irrelevant unless you have a medical condition.
Looking at your diary your well within acceptable levels on carbs.0 -
To prevent myself from going over on carbs, i have to exercise each day for at least half an hour
I dont get it, why is eating a banana so bad? Or an apple?
I eat pretty healthy now, but i worry about having too many carbs and i would far rather be under each day than over
but its always tipping the scale and i dont like it!
I took a peek at your diary. First off you are breastfeeding which adds 500 calories to your daily intake - I would think in adding those 500 it would also increase the amount of carbs you can consume everyday. I don't know if MFP does that adjustment when you enter the breastfeeding in as a (-500).
Also you are definitely eating a lot of fruit. Sometimes 2 glasses of apple juice a day and 2 bananas a day. BUT since you are breastfeeding I think this is a healthy thing.
Bottom line...don't worry if you're a little bit over!!!
Breastfeeding probably uses a fair bit of carbs you're right, probably more than anything else (other than fat but breast milk is made of stored fat rather than ingested fat so thats sort of moot when you are trying to lose weight) but i dont know how they would make the calculation, your body produces breastmilk that suits your child rather than any particular formula...
I loooove fruit though! But perhaps i should try and cut it down a bit? bananas are just such a great, quick, healthy snack! Would be a shame to remove my daily one (the breakfast one is essential)0 -
You are probably going to get mad at this post, but you have gotten mad at every post that actually answered your question so you should be used to it.
You want to know why you are going over on Carbs? Because you are eating carb heavy foods.
I get you like Banana's, they are easy and tasty, but they have a lot of carbs. I get you like Apple juice, it is also tasty, but it also has a lot of carbs. You have gluten problems so try to eat gluten free, but then eat brown rice which is also high in carbs. If you are truly concerned about the amount of carbs you are eating (you really shouldn't be you are within an acceptable +/-) then quit eating carb heavy foods.
As far as you other question of, are eating banana'a that bad? No, they aren't. Like everything though, moderation is the key. Banana's, and most fruit, are a healthy part of any diet, in moderation. If you are looking over your macro's and notice you are over by 37G of protein, guess what it was that second banana you had, or the extra glass of apple juice you had.
It is all broken down for you, look at your macro's, look where you are going over, look at the individual macro breakdown for the foods you ate that day, and adjust the next day to hit your macro's. It all depends on what you are trying to do here though. Are you looking to make a life style change in how you eat? Are you just looking to keep better track of an already healthy lifestyle? Are you trying to lose weight? Are you exercising regularly, cardio, weights, or both? Did you adjust your macro's to fit what you are trying to do? In my opinion, MFP set's carbs way to high for what I am aiming for so I reduced them so that my macro's meet what I am trying to do.
I quick glance at the last week of your diary shows that you are usually high on carbs but low on protein. You are under on calories. There could be some adjustment done here, but overall it seems like a pretty healthy diet. The carbs aren't "bad" carbs so I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much, but that isn't what you asked. To answer what you asked, eating an apple of a banana isn't so bad.0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy
Soy sounds like a goodun, from my own research (a-la google
) i have discovered Almonds are very high in protein so am going to include a good dose of almonds/almond milk in my diet from now on 0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy
Soy sounds like a goodun, from my own research (a-la google ) i have discovered Almonds are very high in protein so am going to include a good dose of almonds/almond milk in my diet from now on
Almond milk is very very low in protein and nuts, while having some protein, are more of a fat source.0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy
Also:
hemp seeds
legumes
broccoli
cauliflower
kale
spinach0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy
Also:
hemp seeds
legumes
broccoli
cauliflower
kale
spinach
already eat quite a lot of legumes... have some hemp milk, but i think i will stock up on pumpkin seeds, hemp seed and almonds in my next shop 0 -
I imagine i am under on protein because i don't eat meat?
I think i do eat a healthy diet, yes i need to lose weight but i am doing so at the moment
I have a very active lifestyle and do at least 4 hours belly dancing a week, usually more. much of my day is spent walking/running around and cleaning!
what foods are protein rich but vegetarian (and cheap) ? Will eating more protein rich foods make me less hungry?
If so i could probably adjust!
Protein is more satiating than carbs generally.
Some vegetarian sources include:
Seitan
Quorn
Milk and other dairy
Soy
Soy sounds like a goodun, from my own research (a-la google ) i have discovered Almonds are very high in protein so am going to include a good dose of almonds/almond milk in my diet from now on
Almond milk is very very low in protein and nuts, while having some protein, are more of a fat source.
Thanks for this x0 -
I am sorry i posted, please no more 'support' I wont make the mistake of posting anything again.
Do you realize you've made more than a dozen posts after saying you'll never post again? Not being rude, just pointing something out.
Yes, conversation does come with risk - people disagreeing with you, misunderstanding you, people being smarter than you, people being not as smart as you. But the risk is worth it.0 -
I am sorry i posted, please no more 'support' I wont make the mistake of posting anything again.
Do you realize you've made more than a dozen posts after saying you'll never post again? Not being rude, just pointing something out.
Yes, conversation does come with risk - people disagreeing with you, misunderstanding you, people being smarter than you, people being not as smart as you. But the risk is worth it.
Allow me to clarify, i will not post asking for advice or support again. I will however seek to find others who are treated with such bizarre, arrogant, judgemental atitudes and support them positively. Because actually, thats what we ALL should be doing.0
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