I Can't Eat

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  • _granola
    _granola Posts: 326
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    I have an ED, first of all, so don't go acting all holier-than-thou.

    And I don't feel it's your place to say anything against a DOCTOR.

    It still didn't make snese for you to say "no. stop" to me. You clearly just believe you're a wiser person and can be rude.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Sorry you feel the need to be so hostile, but I disagree. And if the OP decides to come back and talk more about this, I will continue to help her see that she does not need to do what this doctor is telling her to do.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
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    Wtf, "Granola" her doctor told her to go on 1000 calories a day. I'm not encouraging disordered eating habits. Maybe stop taking your anger out on people on the internet, who didn't say anything wrong, and instead focus on the reason you're on this site :)

    No one is angry. I just don't think you understand what "disordered eating habits" means. It doesn't just include eating low calories. It includes thoughts and behaviors that the OP is describing, and anyone, including a doctor, who is encouraging those behaviors is doing damage.

    One of the reasons I'm on this site is to help women, like the OP, from believing they need to starve themselves, hate food, and hate themselves to be healthy and fit.

    :heart: granola baby I love you so hard right now. Im glad you try to help. We need more people like you :heart:
  • karmahunger
    karmahunger Posts: 373 Member
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    ...that is stupid on so many levels. just because someone can't eat a tonne in a day doesn't mean they will be torturing themselves or begin to hate food. the point is to learn to think about things OTHER than food.

    but you know what's best, right?
  • _granola
    _granola Posts: 326
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    ...that is stupid on so many levels. just because someone can't eat a tonne in a day doesn't mean they will be torturing themselves or begin to hate food. the point is to learn to think about things OTHER than food.

    but you know what's best, right?

    The OP said since she has been eating so little she has become "anti-food." She has no appetite. She is afraid she is eating the wrong things. The doctor she is seeing is telling her she shouldn't eat eggs and veggies and fueling her thoughts and behaviors. She finds no pleasure in eating anymore.

    Eating so little does not usually lead to sustainable weight loss. Science tells us that, not just me. It is recommended that a child, from ages 2-3 years old, eat 1,000 calories per day. Not a healthy adult woman. A child.
  • karmahunger
    karmahunger Posts: 373 Member
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    It depends on someones size, such as height. I am short, and can quite comfortably eat 1200 calories a day.

    Whatever. This is turning into a dumb argument.

    OP: Good luck.
  • urloved33
    urloved33 Posts: 3,323 Member
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    It is always a work in progress (that is what I have been told lol) I have a problem wanting to eat too. Think of one food that you love (for me its cereal) and when I have not eaten for a long time I will start with cereal to get me back feeling like I want to eat.
  • kenazfehu
    kenazfehu Posts: 1,188 Member
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    My brother had some really wise words one time, and although to most it'll probably considered bad taste and tacky...but the point is still relevant.

    He was trying a new frozen dinner while I was over there and I asked him how it was, he sat there for a moment as though he was deep in thought, and after a minute he looked at me and said, "It's not really that good." Right afterwards he took another big bite as though it was the best thing on the planet. The response and the action didn't match so I asked him, "If it's not that good, why are you still eating it?" His response was simply,"Because, even though it's not that good, it'll make you poop."

    His point was, it's just food. Sometimes it's good, sometimes its bad, but the whole point of food is to eat it, digest it, get what fuel we can from it, and let it go.

    OMG; there's another one! My son says a version of that all the time "it'll make a turd."

    I can't relate to not wanting to eat except for when I'm very sick. In that case, I have ginger ale until I feel better.

    Please be advised that losing weight is hard work and the body needs fuel to do that work. 1000 calories isn't a lot of calories to plan into a day, so have a little fun with it. Decide on how many meals per day and draw that many plates, then pencil in what will be on each plate. I'd put a fruit or a vegetable on each one. Do several days' worth along with research into nutrition.

    I think that if you practice putting together appropriate meals and come to understand that this food will help you, not hurt you, your appetite may return.

    And P.S. - I could only support the protein bar as a meal substitute if you've been in the habit of grabbing fast food because you have no time to prepare a proper meal. Better to carry a protein bar for such emergencies. But if you have the time - I'd go for the spinach and egg, but the whole egg, not only the whites.

    Maybe the doc gets a kick-back from promoting protein bars.

    And double-PS: I used to think I loved food, too, only to slowly come to the realization that I was barely tasting the food I was wolfing down.
  • tdhighfill
    tdhighfill Posts: 200 Member
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    My brother had some really wise words one time, and although to most it'll probably considered bad taste and tacky...but the point is still relevant.

    He was trying a new frozen dinner while I was over there and I asked him how it was, he sat there for a moment as though he was deep in thought, and after a minute he looked at me and said, "It's not really that good." Right afterwards he took another big bite as though it was the best thing on the planet. The response and the action didn't match so I asked him, "If it's not that good, why are you still eating it?" His response was simply,"Because, even though it's not that good, it'll make you poop."

    His point was, it's just food. Sometimes it's good, sometimes its bad, but the whole point of food is to eat it, digest it, get what fuel we can from it, and let it go.

    me thinks me likes your brother's thinking! thanks for the laugh and reality. :drinker:
  • lieselLalor
    lieselLalor Posts: 169 Member
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    I definitely agree with seeing a therapist or counselor because you don't just want your physical body to be healthy but your mind should be healthy as well otherwise in the long run you might be right back at this point. In the meantime if you are having problems eating food you can still get calories by drinking them. That might be a little bit easier than actually forcing yourself to put food in your mouth and swallow it. There are tons of protein powders out there that you can just add to water and get 100calories per 8oz. of water. Just take it one day at a time. If you eat something that you enjoyed and you felt good after eating then try to eat that once a day and maybe eventually you will find a second food and a third. One step at a time.
  • PLUMSGRL
    PLUMSGRL Posts: 1,134 Member
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    quick! get a better doctor!!!

    Smarter Science of Slim, Jonathan Bailor...read it.
  • xxwhitetigressxx
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    get a new dr! protein bars are not healthy, stick with what u enjoy and just work out a little harder ull get over the level it may just take a little time!
  • MissSusieQ
    MissSusieQ Posts: 533 Member
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    I'm on the 'ask her for a referral to a counsellor' camp. i think that's helpful advice.

    she's a bariatric doctor, i'm inclined to believe that she knows what she's talking about, but obviously her delivery is making you struggle.

    the other thing i'd add is spend your calories the way you want to! if you want to eat eggs and spinnach, eat them! she's given you the box, what you fill it with is your choice :)
  • AmyFett
    AmyFett Posts: 1,607 Member
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    She's a bariatric doctor that I was referred to by my primary care physician, so this is technically her specialty. It's just hard, because, she's basically saying, "Food is fuel, stop thinking of it as enjoyable."

    Well, it's true though. Food is fuel. You eat to live, not live to eat. You're going to have to eat or you'll have bigger issues in the long run.
  • beelikethebug
    beelikethebug Posts: 50 Member
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    It does sound like you need a second opinion. Doctors/specialists look at things from all sorts of different theoretical backgrounds, and since there isn't necessarily a one-size-fits-all approach to weight loss/disordered eating, you may want to look for a doctor whose approach reflects the way you want to live/eat. If you want to look at food as being more than fuel (which is how I look at it), then find a doctor with similar ideas as you. To me, there is absolutely no reason that appreciating food for all it has to offer (not just nutrition, but the social/sensory aspects to it) has to be in opposition to weight loss.