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  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    I'll give you a head start. I've listed some diets below and they all have 1 thing in common. Absolutely none of them say anything about eating exercise calories back.


    Atkins Diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet

    1200 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.everydiet.org/diet/1200-calorie-diet

    1500 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.womenandweight.com/1500-calorie-diet-plan/

    Vegan diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Vegan.htm


    PSMF, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Sparing_Modified_Fast


    Edit: I know how MFP works and it's created some type of myth that if you don't eat your exercise calories back, you will stop losing weight. At least, that's what your opinion seems to be. It's just nonsense and nowhere outside of MFP will you ever see such a notion, at least not from medical professionals or science journals.


    All I can tell you is for me and a lot of others, its no myth. I dont need a study to tell me that as I have my own experience. And yes, you will see a lot of medical professionals that will tell you that if you dont eat enough you will not lose weight.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    I'll give you a head start. I've listed some diets below and they all have 1 thing in common. Absolutely none of them say anything about eating exercise calories back.


    Atkins Diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet

    1200 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.everydiet.org/diet/1200-calorie-diet

    1500 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.womenandweight.com/1500-calorie-diet-plan/

    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Vegan.htm
    Vegan diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back

    PSMF, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Sparing_Modified_Fast


    Well, if you dont understand how the MFP system works, why are you here? You can not eat a 1000 calorie a day deficit, workout on top of that and expect to lose weight. At least for any length of time. Its not gonna happen. There is no shortage of people here that have experienced just as I have that they started losing weight only after they started eating more. I cant eat 1750 caloried a day then burn 1000 calories working out and lose weight. Tried it, it doesnt work. Your body will hold onto everything if you dont eat enough. You will also experience a serious lack of energy. So, do as you wish, good luck.


    Edit: I know how MFP works and it's created some type of myth that if you don't eat your exercise calories back, you will stop losing weight. At least, that's what your opinion seems to be. It's just nonsense and nowhere outside of MFP will you ever see such a notion, at least not from medical professionals or science journals. Again, I've provided +5 diets and articles, and all of them say nothing about exercise calories. What do you have other then your opinion?

    I have experience. I have 52 pounds lost while eating most of my exercise calories back. Thats good enough for me.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    I'll give you a head start. I've listed some diets below and they all have 1 thing in common. Absolutely none of them say anything about eating exercise calories back.


    Atkins Diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet

    1200 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.everydiet.org/diet/1200-calorie-diet

    1500 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.womenandweight.com/1500-calorie-diet-plan/

    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Vegan.htm
    Vegan diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back

    PSMF, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Sparing_Modified_Fast


    Well, if you dont understand how the MFP system works, why are you here? You can not eat a 1000 calorie a day deficit, workout on top of that and expect to lose weight. At least for any length of time. Its not gonna happen. There is no shortage of people here that have experienced just as I have that they started losing weight only after they started eating more. I cant eat 1750 caloried a day then burn 1000 calories working out and lose weight. Tried it, it doesnt work. Your body will hold onto everything if you dont eat enough. You will also experience a serious lack of energy. So, do as you wish, good luck.


    Edit: I know how MFP works and it's created some type of myth that if you don't eat your exercise calories back, you will stop losing weight. At least, that's what your opinion seems to be. It's just nonsense and nowhere outside of MFP will you ever see such a notion, at least not from medical professionals or science journals. Again, I've provided +5 diets and articles, and all of them say nothing about exercise calories. What do you have other then your opinion?

    I have experience. I have 52 pounds lost while eating most of my exercise calories back. Thats good enough for me.

    You still lose weight eating your exercise calories back. I never said you don't. What I am implying is that you can lose faster if you don't eat them back.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    I'll give you a head start. I've listed some diets below and they all have 1 thing in common. Absolutely none of them say anything about eating exercise calories back.


    Atkins Diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet

    1200 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.everydiet.org/diet/1200-calorie-diet

    1500 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.womenandweight.com/1500-calorie-diet-plan/

    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Vegan.htm
    Vegan diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back

    PSMF, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Sparing_Modified_Fast


    Well, if you dont understand how the MFP system works, why are you here? You can not eat a 1000 calorie a day deficit, workout on top of that and expect to lose weight. At least for any length of time. Its not gonna happen. There is no shortage of people here that have experienced just as I have that they started losing weight only after they started eating more. I cant eat 1750 caloried a day then burn 1000 calories working out and lose weight. Tried it, it doesnt work. Your body will hold onto everything if you dont eat enough. You will also experience a serious lack of energy. So, do as you wish, good luck.


    Edit: I know how MFP works and it's created some type of myth that if you don't eat your exercise calories back, you will stop losing weight. At least, that's what your opinion seems to be. It's just nonsense and nowhere outside of MFP will you ever see such a notion, at least not from medical professionals or science journals. Again, I've provided +5 diets and articles, and all of them say nothing about exercise calories. What do you have other then your opinion?

    I have experience. I have 52 pounds lost while eating most of my exercise calories back. Thats good enough for me.

    You still lose weight eating your exercise calories back. I never said you don't. What I am implying is that you can lose faster if you don't eat them back.

    I didnt lose faster not eating them back. I didnt lose anything when I didnt eat them back.
  • jojorocksforeva
    jojorocksforeva Posts: 303 Member
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    Making no sense Lol.....
    Doing that why would you
    ever ever eat back your calories
    why even exercise than hmm!!
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    I'll give you a head start. I've listed some diets below and they all have 1 thing in common. Absolutely none of them say anything about eating exercise calories back.


    Atkins Diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet

    1200 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.everydiet.org/diet/1200-calorie-diet

    1500 calorie diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://www.womenandweight.com/1500-calorie-diet-plan/

    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Vegan.htm
    Vegan diet, says nothing about eating exercise calories back

    PSMF, says nothing about eating exercise calories back
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Sparing_Modified_Fast


    Well, if you dont understand how the MFP system works, why are you here? You can not eat a 1000 calorie a day deficit, workout on top of that and expect to lose weight. At least for any length of time. Its not gonna happen. There is no shortage of people here that have experienced just as I have that they started losing weight only after they started eating more. I cant eat 1750 caloried a day then burn 1000 calories working out and lose weight. Tried it, it doesnt work. Your body will hold onto everything if you dont eat enough. You will also experience a serious lack of energy. So, do as you wish, good luck.


    Edit: I know how MFP works and it's created some type of myth that if you don't eat your exercise calories back, you will stop losing weight. At least, that's what your opinion seems to be. It's just nonsense and nowhere outside of MFP will you ever see such a notion, at least not from medical professionals or science journals. Again, I've provided +5 diets and articles, and all of them say nothing about exercise calories. What do you have other then your opinion?

    I have experience. I have 52 pounds lost while eating most of my exercise calories back. Thats good enough for me.

    You still lose weight eating your exercise calories back. I never said you don't. What I am implying is that you can lose faster if you don't eat them back.

    I didnt lose faster not eating them back. I didnt lose anything when I didnt eat them back.

    I don't know everything about your diet and your exercise routine. It would be hard for to rely on what you say as truth and you could say the same about me. That's why is it much easier to rely on scientific studies to rule out any nonsense and miscalculations. I have provided a study to support my claim. What do you have or what can you find to support your claim other then your opinion?
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    When most people start dieting, they slash their calories and add a large amount of exercise to their daily routine. That’s fine, but they usually cut their calories way too low. Add in the extra exercise, and all of a sudden you have an extreme calorie deficit that is working against you.
    Not eating enough calories causes many metabolic changes. Your body is a smart machine and senses a large decrease in dietary energy. Your large calorie deficit might work for a few days or even weeks, but eventually your body will wake up and sound alarms that it needs to conserve energy. It doesn’t want to just waste away. It needs that energy (fat) to survive. So, what does your body do when it senses prolonged energy restriction? Not eating enough calories…
    Slows down thyroid production – Your thyroid is responsible for fat, carbohydrate, and protein metabolism among other things. Your body has the ability to slow down thyroid output in an effort to maintain energy balance [1].
    Decreases muscle mass – Muscle is highly calorie intensive to maintain. In a prolonged extreme calorie deficit, it is one of the first things that your body looks to get rid of. Your body needs the fat, wants the fat, and the muscle can be spared. It breaks down the muscle tissue and uses it for energy.
    Lowers testosterone levels – An important hormone for both men and women, testosterone is just one of many hormones that are affected with severe calorie restriction [2]. Testosterone is anabolic to muscle tissue. Without it, it becomes that much harder to maintain, let alone put on muscle mass.
    Decreases leptin levels – Leptin is one of many energy regulating hormones. More importantly, it’s a “hunger” hormone that tells you whether to eat or not. High leptin levels signal that it’s OK to stop eating, while low leptin levels are a signal to eat more energy. Because of this, leptin levels decrease in calorie restricted environments [3].
    Decreases energy levels – There are many physical actions your body takes when you’re not eating enough calories to lose weight, but there are also some mental ones. Neurotransmitter production is limited, which can lead to a lack of motivation. It’s your body’s way of telling you to “slow down” – conserve your energy.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    Making no sense Lol.....
    Doing that why would you
    ever ever eat back your calories
    why even exercise than hmm!!

    Not sure who this is directed to or what your question is.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.

    Every doctor in the world will tell you that eating to little is not good for you. But again, do whatever you want. I dont care. Good day.
  • dbovee1
    dbovee1 Posts: 7 Member
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    You should read this article again. You misunderstood it.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.

    Every doctor in the world will tell you that eating to little is not good for you. But again, do whatever you want. I dont care. Good day.


    Doctors will put you on a 1200 or 1500 calorie diet. They don't say anything about eating exercise calories back. Link to a doctor that says otherwise?
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.

    Every doctor in the world will tell you that eating to little is not good for you. But again, do whatever you want. I dont care. Good day.


    Doctors will put you on a 1200 or 1500 calorie diet. They don't say anything about eating exercise calories back. Link to a doctor that says otherwise?


    No doctor on the planet will tell you to eat 1200 calories and go burn 1000 in workout. None. Eating 1200 or 1500 will work fine if you sit and watch tv all day but if you plan on doing intense workouts youre going to need to eat more or you can look forward to not losing any weight. Or more specifically, not losing any fat. You very well might see some weight loss but it will probably be muscle mass
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.

    Every doctor in the world will tell you that eating to little is not good for you. But again, do whatever you want. I dont care. Good day.


    Doctors will put you on a 1200 or 1500 calorie diet. They don't say anything about eating exercise calories back. Link to a doctor that says otherwise?


    No doctor on the planet will tell you to eat 1200 calories and go burn 1000 in workout. None.




    I found something interesting. A Texas Registered Dietitian that says do not eat your exercise calories back.



    Post number six in the link below or click Control + F to search for key words.


    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/755899-registered-dietitian-in-tx-here-to-answer-questions?page=11
    2. Maintain the same calorie deficit each day. Don't eat back exercise calories.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
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    BTW, the girl he quoted and told not to eat exercise calories back is only eating 1400 calories a day. ***GASP!*** Someone call 911!!!



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  • Fit4sure
    Fit4sure Posts: 63 Member
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    oh wow...what a maelstrom this could become.

    I was just going to say something simple...like let your weight loss be your guide or something like that. Eat 'em back if you want but if you're not losing...rethink that. If you don't eat 'em back and you're losing too fast (should be between 1/2 and 2 lbs. a week)...then eat some. Just don't go hungry in the process and don't get out of hand as you're calorie burn may not be as high as you think.

    I just go with the scale...I'm a maintainer and have found that eating part of mine works for me to continue my maintenance (about 1/2 most weeks).
  • grinner30
    grinner30 Posts: 122 Member
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    I weighed 295 pounds 4 and half months ago. I burn between 2700 - 3700 calories a day with workouts. I eat about 2200 calories a day normal and I eat back 250-600 of my calories depending on the estimated burn. I have lost 47 pounds and gained muscle in the process.

    Do what works for you, but you do not need to put yourself at a severe deficit to loose weight. It is not true. Work hard, eat food to fuel and sustain your body. Eat the calories you need.

    Not all people are a like and no one diet is the best for everyone. Find your balance and good luck!
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    Eating a calorie deficit and then adding exercise makes the deficit even bigger. Too big a deficit is not healthy and is counter-productive. If you dont want to eat exercise calories then dont eat them. I really dont care.

    The word "Healthy" is a broad term. What do you mean by healthy? What happens when you have a huge deficit that is "unhealthy" to the individual? I'll go out on a limb again and say nothing and I'm not talking about mental disorders. I'm talking about diseases that can literally hurt your metabolism or kill you. If we speak in my terms of "HEALTHY", having a huge deficit is not detrimental to ones health. However, eating more does, as eating more causes Type 2 Diabetes, Heart Diseases, and many more diseases that literally cause death.


    As for being counter productive, it's only your opinion. I've never seen a diet or study that has ever said you must eat exercise calories back in order to lose weight FASTER.

    Every doctor in the world will tell you that eating to little is not good for you. But again, do whatever you want. I dont care. Good day.


    Doctors will put you on a 1200 or 1500 calorie diet. They don't say anything about eating exercise calories back. Link to a doctor that says otherwise?


    No doctor on the planet will tell you to eat 1200 calories and go burn 1000 in workout. None.




    I found something interesting. A Texas Registered Dietitian that says do not eat your exercise calories back.



    Post number six in the link below or click Control + F to search for key words.


    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/755899-registered-dietitian-in-tx-here-to-answer-questions?page=11
    2. Maintain the same calorie deficit each day. Don't eat back exercise calories.


    Correct. I dont mean to sound like an *kitten* but I think you need a reading comprehension class because youre not understanding what you read. Perhaps you missed this part of what he said "I don't recommend that my clients "eat back" calories from exercise because I use them in my estimations when I write their calorie prescription." In other words, he does exactly what I said. If you set your goal manually, in my case it would be 2750, then i would not eat back exercise calories. But if I eat 1750, which is what MFP says to do, then I would eat exercise calories.
  • MDWilliams1857
    MDWilliams1857 Posts: 315 Member
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    BTW, the girl he quoted and told not to eat exercise calories back is only eating 1400 calories a day. ***GASP!*** Someone call 911!!!



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    Uhh, he actually didnt tell anyone not too. What he said is he doesnt tell his clients to because he factors exercise calories when he gives them their calorie goal.