Top 5 Diet Killers....the remix.

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  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
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    Excellent list. Can we add Lack of Variety in there somewhere? Too many people set these rigid diets where they eat the same thing day after day, get bored, binge, feel guilty, and then just blow the diet off altogether.

    You can lose weight eating anything and everything. Mix it up, have some fun, don't be afraid to go over your calories or have a celebration lunch with co-workers. People feeling guilty over making a "bad" food choice kills infinitely more diets than actual bad food choices.

    Yes! Everyone is sick of baked chicken breasts and a side of veggies. Then eat something else!
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
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    Excellent list. Can we add Lack of Variety in there somewhere? Too many people set these rigid diets where they eat the same thing day after day, get bored, binge, feel guilty, and then just blow the diet off altogether.

    You can lose weight eating anything and everything. Mix it up, have some fun, don't be afraid to go over your calories or have a celebration lunch with co-workers. People feeling guilty over making a "bad" food choice kills infinitely more diets than actual bad food choices.

    Yes! Everyone is sick of baked chicken breasts and a side of veggies. Then eat something else!

    I like brownies!
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
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    i like donuts
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Awesome girl! And props to Taunto on the memes.
  • RunDottyRun
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    BUMP! :) (flowerforyou)
  • NavyKnightAh13
    NavyKnightAh13 Posts: 1,394 Member
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    :drinker: right on!!!!!!!!!!!
  • LaurasClimb
    LaurasClimb Posts: 211 Member
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    Yes! Everyone is sick of baked chicken breasts and a side of veggies. Then eat something else!

    Hmmm...Here I was thinking I wasn't eating enough baked chicken breasts with a side of veggies. Well...better change that plan! ;)
  • RockinBooty89
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    Can I add actual bad influences/ non-supportive freinds, family, and people you live with to the list. I would also like to add laziness and nobody takes into account that every body is different so you can't take any one particular tip as gospel.
  • tobnrn
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    Can I add actual bad influences/ non-supportive freinds, family, and people you live with to the list. I would also like to add laziness and nobody takes into account that every body is different so you can't take any one particular tip as gospel.

    I think the point of this is there are no special snowflakes/magic unicorns. We are all the same.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    Can I add actual bad influences/ non-supportive freinds, family, and people you live with to the list. I would also like to add laziness and nobody takes into account that every body is different so you can't take any one particular tip as gospel.

    Personally, I disagree with this. I believe your choices are your own, and your motivation has to come from within- regardless of those around you. Your strength is defined by what you overcome, and all that.

    And the everybody is different thing is true to a point- but mostly we're all the same, with the exception of diseases and disorders. Everything won't work *exactly* the same, and certainly everyone needs to experiment and find what works for them on a personal level, but for the most part nutrition works the same for almost everyone. Personal preferences, tastes, and circumstances do make a big difference though, and those should certainly be factored in.

    Just my $0.02
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Can I add actual bad influences/ non-supportive freinds, family, and people you live with to the list. I would also like to add laziness and nobody takes into account that every body is different so you can't take any one particular tip as gospel.

    I think the point of this is there are no special snowflakes/magic unicorns. We are all the same.

    Well, except you of course. We established that earlier. lol

    What tobnrn and MoreBean said is dead on. Bad influences are just an excuse. Overcome them or eliminate them. And we are far more the same than we are different. The basic principles apply to all those who do not have a special medical condition. Eat less than you burn, eat nutritent dense food, work your body to maintain muscle mass and cardiovascular health. Works for me. Works for you. Simple as that. No excuses. Just results.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    Here's my noninclusive list.

    #1) Bad attitude
    -unreasonable expectations
    -my way is the only way!
    - I can't do this!
    - People are MEAN!
    #2) Bogus diet advice
    -Dr Oz.
    - you must eliminate X
    - no eating before/after/during whatever
    - 900 million other examples
    #3) Lack of will power (most excuses)
    - My friend/husband/co-workers are sabotaging me!
    - I can't find the time to exercise!
    - Eating right is too expensive!
    #4) Lack of preparation (a.k.a. pre-planning)
    - Fast food/snack machine was the ONLY option available! (every day though?!?!)
    #5) Dishonesty with self.
    -body dysmorphia
    -setting goals you can't stick with
    -not logging accurately
    -over-counting workout calories

    Go!

    Dearest Bean, if I may add some of my own:

    A) Over complicating/over analyzing things.
    Eating breakfast? Yes or no? Eating 3 meals a day? Eating 6 meals a day? Eating 1 meal a day? Intermittent fasting? Eating before your workout, after your work? Eating past 8. Working out in the morning, lunch or at night. Glycemic index, oh no blood sugar spikes! Can you count milk as water? Should you eat your exercise calories back? On and on and on and on. The reality of the situation is, if you eat at a deficit you're going to lose weight. If you're just starting out, this should be rules #1, 2, 3 and 4 to pay attention to. Eat at a moderate deficit and you will lose weight. If you want to adjust your macros or food intake in general to support different activities, tastes, satiety levels, whatever, sure go ahead. Just remember that first rule.

    Also realize that nothing is perfectly accurate. HRMs or fitbits or bodybuggs or MFP are not 100% accurate. None of them are. It's an estimate. Food intake is also an estimate. Even measuring your food has margins of error. Calculating your BMR and TDEE and all that is great...but those are just calculations and again have margins of errors. Add everything up and there is substantial room for error.

    Long story short, all that matters is that you're in a deficit. If you're in a deficit long-term, you will lose weight and/or inches. Yes, there are medical issues that can muddy this but they are rare. Talk to your doctor because no one here is going to be qualified to diagnose you.

    Finally, do what works for you. I might have luck eating before my workout but maybe you'll throw up when you try it. There's no right or wrong answer, just keep it simple and try not to over analyze everything.

    C) Having too narrow of a view of everything.
    There are no purely healthy foods. There are no purely bad foods. You can fit just about anything into your diet if you want to. View your diet as a whole. Eat a reasonably balanced diet. Too many carbs are bad, too much protein is bad, blah blah blah. Too much or too little of anything IS bad. Even having said that, one "bad" day does not unmake a diet. Or one a week. View your day's food intake as a whole, not each piece. View your diet in general on the long-term, week to week or even better - month to month. Making a change in your diet? Give it a month to analyze the results. One day or even one week means nothing.

    Some examples, one of my favorite friends eats ice cream every night. Every night. She fits it into her calories. She looks like a goddamn supermodel. It's not magic, just plan ahead (see Bean's point above about not planning things out). Myself, I drink beer every night. Every single night. I have logged over 600 beers in the last year and a half and lost 70lbs. Again, it's not magic. Plan out your day. By noon I have everything pre-logged that I'm going to eat, and when. Why is this good? Because making food decisions when you're hungry is a really bad idea. That's like watching The Fast and the Furious and then going to the car dealership. You're gonna come home in a new Camaro and not the minivan that you need for your 5 children.

    (sorry, mini-rant about planning came out of nowhere and attacked me)

    As above, do what works for you. If you can't go without chocolate, eat it! Fit it into your calories. It's not a big deal - EVERYONE does it eventually. Even the hardest core bodybuilders, olympians, etc. will restrict themselves only for so long.

    3) Lack of common sense.
    I realize there are a lot of women here but you've really got to get a hold of yourself here. You ate 3 french fries, and then jumped on the scale and you were up 3lbs. Time to hang yourself? Calm down, shut off the waterworks and apply a little logic. It takes 10500 calories to gain 3lbs of fat. Did you eat an extra 10500 calories over your maintenance? If the answer is no, then you didn't gain 3lbs of fat. If you didn't gain 3lbs of fat, then why are you upset? The 3lbs wasn't fat, therefore it was some form of lean body mass or much more likely - water. Is this something to get upset about, or care about in any way shape or form? Of course not.

    Use your brain. If you use the elliptical every day for a month and you haven't lost a pound or an inch, no it's not because you're gaining muscle. If you could gain muscle on the elliptical, don't you think every bodybuilder in the world would be using one 24/7? Furthermore, are you worried about getting bulky? That is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How many people do you know that got bulky using 3lb dumbbells? Of course, the answer is none because it does not happen. Even people who WANT to get bulky, it takes them years and years of hard work and dedication to get there - and they were doing it on purpose!

    Dr. Oz and Jillian Michaels and supplement companies and 80 million other people and publications out there. Think carefully about where the information comes from. If it's some guy whose job is to sell you things, take his advice with a grain of salt! Do you believe everything the car salesman tells you? Of course not, he just wants to make money off of you. Does drinking pregnant woman pee seem like a reasonable thing to do to lose weight? Of course not, you're just lining the pockets of some corporation. Read unbiased information instead.

    Just three examples, there are thousands more. Apply a little logic before you freak out over anything. This works well in life, in general to boot!
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    I must be the anti-Bean, we went from short and sweet to bloated wall of text. My bad.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Here's my noninclusive list.

    #1) Bad attitude
    -unreasonable expectations
    -my way is the only way!
    - I can't do this!
    - People are MEAN!
    #2) Bogus diet advice
    -Dr Oz.
    - you must eliminate X
    - no eating before/after/during whatever
    - 900 million other examples
    #3) Lack of will power (most excuses)
    - My friend/husband/co-workers are sabotaging me!
    - I can't find the time to exercise!
    - Eating right is too expensive!
    #4) Lack of preparation (a.k.a. pre-planning)
    - Fast food/snack machine was the ONLY option available! (every day though?!?!)
    #5) Dishonesty with self.
    -body dysmorphia
    -setting goals you can't stick with
    -not logging accurately
    -over-counting workout calories

    Go!

    Dearest Bean, if I may add some of my own:

    A) Over complicating/over analyzing things.
    Eating breakfast? Yes or no? Eating 3 meals a day? Eating 6 meals a day? Eating 1 meal a day? Intermittent fasting? Eating before your workout, after your work? Eating past 8. Working out in the morning, lunch or at night. Glycemic index, oh no blood sugar spikes! Can you count milk as water? Should you eat your exercise calories back? On and on and on and on. The reality of the situation is, if you eat at a deficit you're going to lose weight. If you're just starting out, this should be rules #1, 2, 3 and 4 to pay attention to. Eat at a moderate deficit and you will lose weight. If you want to adjust your macros or food intake in general to support different activities, tastes, satiety levels, whatever, sure go ahead. Just remember that first rule.

    Also realize that nothing is perfectly accurate. HRMs or fitbits or bodybuggs or MFP are not 100% accurate. None of them are. It's an estimate. Food intake is also an estimate. Even measuring your food has margins of error. Calculating your BMR and TDEE and all that is great...but those are just calculations and again have margins of errors. Add everything up and there is substantial room for error.

    Long story short, all that matters is that you're in a deficit. If you're in a deficit long-term, you will lose weight and/or inches. Yes, there are medical issues that can muddy this but they are rare. Talk to your doctor because no one here is going to be qualified to diagnose you.

    Finally, do what works for you. I might have luck eating before my workout but maybe you'll throw up when you try it. There's no right or wrong answer, just keep it simple and try not to over analyze everything.

    C) Having too narrow of a view of everything.
    There are no purely healthy foods. There are no purely bad foods. You can fit just about anything into your diet if you want to. View your diet as a whole. Eat a reasonably balanced diet. Too many carbs are bad, too much protein is bad, blah blah blah. Too much or too little of anything IS bad. Even having said that, one "bad" day does not unmake a diet. Or one a week. View your day's food intake as a whole, not each piece. View your diet in general on the long-term, week to week or even better - month to month. Making a change in your diet? Give it a month to analyze the results. One day or even one week means nothing.

    Some examples, one of my favorite friends eats ice cream every night. Every night. She fits it into her calories. She looks like a goddamn supermodel. It's not magic, just plan ahead (see Bean's point above about not planning things out). Myself, I drink beer every night. Every single night. I have logged over 600 beers in the last year and a half and lost 70lbs. Again, it's not magic. Plan out your day. By noon I have everything pre-logged that I'm going to eat, and when. Why is this good? Because making food decisions when you're hungry is a really bad idea. That's like watching The Fast and the Furious and then going to the car dealership. You're gonna come home in a new Camaro and not the minivan that you need for your 5 children.

    (sorry, mini-rant about planning came out of nowhere and attacked me)

    As above, do what works for you. If you can't go without chocolate, eat it! Fit it into your calories. It's not a big deal - EVERYONE does it eventually. Even the hardest core bodybuilders, olympians, etc. will restrict themselves only for so long.

    3) Lack of common sense.
    I realize there are a lot of women here but you've really got to get a hold of yourself here. You ate 3 french fries, and then jumped on the scale and you were up 3lbs. Time to hang yourself? Calm down, shut off the waterworks and apply a little logic. It takes 10500 calories to gain 3lbs of fat. Did you eat an extra 10500 calories over your maintenance? If the answer is no, then you didn't gain 3lbs of fat. If you didn't gain 3lbs of fat, then why are you upset? The 3lbs wasn't fat, therefore it was some form of lean body mass or much more likely - water. Is this something to get upset about, or care about in any way shape or form? Of course not.

    Use your brain. If you use the elliptical every day for a month and you haven't lost a pound or an inch, no it's not because you're gaining muscle. If you could gain muscle on the elliptical, don't you think every bodybuilder in the world would be using one 24/7? Furthermore, are you worried about getting bulky? That is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How many people do you know that got bulky using 3lb dumbbells? Of course, the answer is none because it does not happen. Even people who WANT to get bulky, it takes them years and years of hard work and dedication to get there - and they were doing it on purpose!

    Dr. Oz and Jillian Michaels and supplement companies and 80 million other people and publications out there. Think carefully about where the information comes from. If it's some guy whose job is to sell you things, take his advice with a grain of salt! Do you believe everything the car salesman tells you? Of course not, he just wants to make money off of you. Does drinking pregnant woman pee seem like a reasonable thing to do to lose weight? Of course not, you're just lining the pockets of some corporation. Read unbiased information instead.

    Just three examples, there are thousands more. Apply a little logic before you freak out over anything. This works well in life, in general to boot!

    Dope, WTF?? TL/DR lol :laugh: :laugh:
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    I was typing like 3 lines and then I blacked out for a bit and came back to this. I don't know what happened.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    I must be the anti-Bean, we went from short and sweet to bloated wall of text. My bad.
    I like it. Good post. Mine probably would have been more verbose, but It started as a quick response on the other "top 5" thread, until I realized that thread was no place for good sense and pulled it out. Thanks for the addition.

    And Sara's gonna love that you called her a supermodel! She is, though.

    :love: you.
  • mmapags
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    I was typing like 3 lines and then I blacked out for a bit and came back to this. I don't know what happened.

    It happens! True story!!
  • Shayztar
    Shayztar Posts: 415 Member
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    I was typing like 3 lines and then I blacked out for a bit and came back to this. I don't know what happened.

    I personally love what you said.

    My only caveat is that I know people who take too many liberties with "in moderation" and "it fits in my macros" and best of all "there is a margin of error" and worked it into gaining weight.

    Discipline, discipline, discipline.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    I was typing like 3 lines and then I blacked out for a bit and came back to this. I don't know what happened.

    I personally love what you said.

    My only caveat is that I know people who take too many liberties with "in moderation" and "it fits in my macros" and best of all "there is a margin of error" and worked it into gaining weight.

    Discipline, discipline, discipline.
    IMO those things fall under the being dishonest with yourself category. Good points.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    I was typing like 3 lines and then I blacked out for a bit and came back to this. I don't know what happened.

    I personally love what you said.

    My only caveat is that I know people who take too many liberties with "in moderation" and "it fits in my macros" and best of all "there is a margin of error" and worked it into gaining weight.

    Discipline, discipline, discipline.

    Yup, I agree. Hell, I've been guilty of it myself. It happens, we're all human. That's why I try to remember rule #1 - no deficit, no weight loss. When I didn't lose any weight for 3 months, I didn't call it a plateau, I realized I was simply maintaining. Too many snacks here and there, overestimating workout calories and poof, scale stops moving. Re-dedicate and move on.