Convince me (or not) that Paleo makes sense

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  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Im sorry but I do not have any research, but you have to do that on your own.

    I have nothing against Paleo but I can not do Paleo for two reasons:

    1) I have done the Master Cleanse, Juice Fast, Candida Cleanse, Kidney Cleanse, Vegetarian Lifestyle, Organic Lifestyle, Green Diet, and Vegan Lifestyle. I honestly do not have it in me anymore to do another restrictive diet. It requires a lot of mental strength and will power.

    2) I am a full time student, I can't even afford red meat let alone having to go to a butcher or getting grass fed meat from whole foods. Plus I don't like fish.

    Congratulations!

    You have successfully talked yourself out of taking charge.

    Everything worthwhile takes mental strength and will power.

    It's a good thing you have given up. Now you won't be disappointed again.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Im sorry but I do not have any research, but you have to do that on your own.

    I have nothing against Paleo but I can not do Paleo for two reasons:

    1) I have done the Master Cleanse, Juice Fast, Candida Cleanse, Kidney Cleanse, Vegetarian Lifestyle, Organic Lifestyle, Green Diet, and Vegan Lifestyle. I honestly do not have it in me anymore to do another restrictive diet. It requires a lot of mental strength and will power.

    2) I am a full time student, I can't even afford red meat let alone having to go to a butcher or getting grass fed meat from whole foods. Plus I don't like fish.

    Congratulations!

    You have successfully talked yourself out of taking charge.

    Everything worthwhile takes mental strength and will power.

    It's a good thing you have given up. Now you won't be disappointed again.

    Another interpretation is that she has now taken charge by deciding for herself what to eat rather than to be easily influenced by the latest fad diet. :wink:
  • hdlb111
    hdlb111 Posts: 20 Member
    Peanut allergies ...Lactose intolerance ...Gluten intolerance/celiac

    For me, all it does is make sense. If so many people have these issues, then to me it is pretty clear that our bodies were not made to eat these things.
    With the exception of lactose intolerance, "Many people" don't have those issues.

    1% of the population has Celiacs disease.
    1.3% of the population has peanut allergies.
    60% of the population has lactose intolerance.


    I must have really crappy odds in my life, because I have Celiac disease, allergies to both tree nuts and peanuts, and a severe intolerance to dairy. But I agree that most people do not have the same issues, and I see nothing wrong with eating dairy, wheat and peanuts if your body handles them well. Its going to be different for everyone though, there will never be 1 diet that works for everyone.
  • HisangelG
    HisangelG Posts: 96 Member
    Im sorry but I do not have any research, but you have to do that on your own.

    I have nothing against Paleo but I can not do Paleo for two reasons:

    1) I have done the Master Cleanse, Juice Fast, Candida Cleanse, Kidney Cleanse, Vegetarian Lifestyle, Organic Lifestyle, Green Diet, and Vegan Lifestyle. I honestly do not have it in me anymore to do another restrictive diet. It requires a lot of mental strength and will power.

    2) I am a full time student, I can't even afford red meat let alone having to go to a butcher or getting grass fed meat from whole foods. Plus I don't like fish.



    Congratulations!

    You have successfully talked yourself out of taking charge.

    Everything worthwhile takes mental strength and will power.


    It's a good thing you have given up. Now you won't be disappointed again.

    Way to be supportive. Not.

    I personally feel restrictive diets are the wrong way to go and applaud those who make the decision for themselves to not go on one.

    If you like them, more power to you..myself, I will take healthier eating of all food groups in moderation for myself.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Im sorry but I do not have any research, but you have to do that on your own.

    I have nothing against Paleo but I can not do Paleo for two reasons:

    1) I have done the Master Cleanse, Juice Fast, Candida Cleanse, Kidney Cleanse, Vegetarian Lifestyle, Organic Lifestyle, Green Diet, and Vegan Lifestyle. I honestly do not have it in me anymore to do another restrictive diet. It requires a lot of mental strength and will power.

    2) I am a full time student, I can't even afford red meat let alone having to go to a butcher or getting grass fed meat from whole foods. Plus I don't like fish.




    Congratulations!

    You have successfully talked yourself out of taking charge.

    Everything worthwhile takes mental strength and will power.


    It's a good thing you have given up. Now you won't be disappointed again.

    Way to be supportive. Not.

    I personally feel restrictive diets are the wrong way to go and applaud those who make the decision for themselves to not go on one.

    If you like them, more power to you..myself, I will take healthier eating of all food groups in moderation for myself.


    "healthier"?

    o_O
  • kjjbean
    kjjbean Posts: 23 Member

    Way to be supportive. Not.

    I personally feel restrictive diets are the wrong way to go and applaud those who make the decision for themselves to not go on one.

    If you like them, more power to you..myself, I will take healthier eating of all food groups in moderation for myself.


    Don't all diets have restrictions of one kind or another?

    Paleo/Primal is not a diet or fad, it's a different approach to what you eat. It isn't touted as a weight loss plan all tho it can be one of the many perks.
  • I started Paleo due to Wheat and dairy Allergies and gluten sensitivities that were discovered during a 45 day allergy diet. Being a bread aholic, wheat is in just about everything.

    I've been on the paleo for 10 days and it took about a week for my system to truly process out the dairy/wheat I had eaten previously. It is amazing how good you feel when you finally realize how not-good you have been feeling for so long, and can attribute it to a source.

    While grocery shopping isn't cheap, it ends up being a wash because I cook so much more now instead of going out to eat.
  • Shadowknight137
    Shadowknight137 Posts: 1,243 Member
    Personally, I'm Paleo (well, Primal) due to my oh-so not-very fun case of coeliac, but also because it just seems healthier.

    Does that sound weird? Well, yeah, kinda is, but at the same time, how can a diet consisting of whole, natural foods be bad for you? It's a he'll of a lot better than a lot of other diets out there, such as Atkins with it's processed garbage and other "gluten free" diets with their "gluten free" breads (of which I refuse to eat - they taste like crap and sit like lead in my stomach, bleh), and eliminating "food groups" isn't exactly bad. Some would argue vegetarian/vegan is bad because a lack of protein, yet they seem to live rather lengthy lives - exceeding that of SAD eaters, mostly.
    In regards to how it makes sense (without getting into the whole "it's what our ancestors ate for 140,000 years" thing) when it comes to, say, weight loss, is in it's elimination of these food groups. Legumes, grains, dairy, etc are fairly calorically dense and commonly served - find me a restaurant that doesn't serve at least one of them. By not eating these you're eliminating a fair amount of calories that - unless you stuff yourself with nuts, which some people do and complain about - will lead to almost effortless weight loss.
    The emphasis on protein/fats also makes the diet very satiating, too... Not that it's necessarily a low carb diet (certainly isn't for me), but the satiating effect of the high-protein no doubt helps - it's hard to stuff yourself in steak, but pretty easy to do soon cake. Unless you REALLY like steak and don't ever seem to get full > me.

    Now, I love dairy, and my chocolate... So I'm more in the Primal camp than Paleo, but I have to say I love both "lifestyles". Maybe because it's healthy, maybe it's because it means there's more recipes for me out there that don't involve garbage bread substitutes... or maybe because I'm kind of a total nerd and think the idea of eating like a caveman is awesome. Who knows, who cares. It works for me, I like it.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Doesn't paleo let you eat all the red meat you want? Wouldn't this make your cholesterol very high?

    Actually, eating low-carb will typically lower cholesterol. There have been numerous research studies that show this to be the case.
  • while never, ever being hungry (unless it's real hunger).

    I don't understand this remark? Why would your hunger be more real than anyone else's? Are you refering to cravings?

    I'm refering to the constant struggle with hunger, cravings, binging that occurs when I eat a "normal" diet. I mean that I am only hungry now when my body really needs food, and then it's not uncomfortable and I have no need to over eat.

    I can't count the posts that I've read to the effect of "help me, I'm always hungry" or "I can't stop eating", whatever. Yup, that was me, BEFORE.

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just started Paleo since recommended by my doctor. I am never in the kitchen trolling for food! It is great! I am not constantly thinking of when I can eat next, what am I going to eat, etc.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    while never, ever being hungry (unless it's real hunger).

    I don't understand this remark? Why would your hunger be more real than anyone else's? Are you refering to cravings?

    I'm refering to the constant struggle with hunger, cravings, binging that occurs when I eat a "normal" diet. I mean that I am only hungry now when my body really needs food, and then it's not uncomfortable and I have no need to over eat.

    I can't count the posts that I've read to the effect of "help me, I'm always hungry" or "I can't stop eating", whatever. Yup, that was me, BEFORE.

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just started Paleo since recommended by my doctor. I am never in the kitchen trolling for food! It is great! I am not constantly thinking of when I can eat next, what am I going to eat, etc.

    I do more Primal than Paleo and I agree---you never get hungry, because you are eating lower carb. I usually keep my carbs between 75-100 grams. That's low enough to knock down my high insulin levels (and thus keep hunger at bay) but not so low that it is unhealthy. I wouldn't go below 60 grams because that will put you in ketosis and that is not particularly good for you. The human body has no particular need for grain (especially not high-gluten modern wheat and GMO grain) and the body DEFINITELY has no need for sugar. I eat way more vegetables than I used to eat and have fruit for snacks instead of a high-carby thing. Feeling way healthier and I've taken off 20 pounds so far. I lose about a pound a week and I have a LOT more energy than I ever had while I was loading up on bread, pasta, etc.. I tried the low fat thing---could not stay on it and gained back what I lost--plus more. I could stay on this eating plan forever. I'm assuming I will stop losing weight once I lose most of the blubber. My muscles are actually stronger than they were before. As I get more fit and exercise more, I will probably have to add a bit of grain.
  • HisangelG
    HisangelG Posts: 96 Member
    Actually, the body does in fact need sugar (glucose). What it needs little to none of is the refined sugar that many of us eat. Fruits have fructose a form of sugar the body can convert easily to the type of sugar it needs.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Actually, the body does in fact need sugar (glucose). What it needs little to none of is the refined sugar that many of us eat. Fruits have fructose a form of sugar the body can convert easily to the type of sugar it needs.

    Yes, it does need glucose---that is the primary fuel for your brain. But your body can make glucose out of any type of food. Sucrose is a problem and so is high fructose corn syrup. The body was not meant to get a massive jolt of refined sugar sans fiber and other nutrients. Eating sugar causes nasty biochemical things to go on in the liver and other organs. It has been said that, if sugar were introduced today, it would be promptly banned by government, so bad is its effect on the body over time. The body efficiently handles the small amount of fructose present in a piece of fruit. The absorption is slowed by the fiber present in the piece of fruit and there are other nutrients that are extremely beneficial (just as there are extremely beneficial nutrients in vegetables and other God-made foods). Fruit might not be so beneficial if we ate tons of it but no one does, it seems. No one sits down to eat a dozen oranges. But that is the amount of fructose (from high fructose corn syrup) that is present in ONE 12-oz. can of soda pop. Two or three pieces of fruit a day (most people eat even less) will be beneficial, but drinking three sodas a day is asking for trouble--like type II diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity and heart disease. Think about it---black bears fatten up for the winter by gorging on wild blueberries. A typical black bear will eat his weight in blueberries or other fruit in a few days in the course of fattening up for the winter.