An Article That I Find To Be Extremely Relevant..

NJSunshine13

A little to hardcore for me. I want to get in shape, but I don't want it to consume my life. There are more important things in life than seeing my veins bc I have 8% body fat. But if that's your thing and makes you happy, then go for it.

icimani

Personally, I thought the article was ridiculous!

"What women really want is a vascular man." - Umm... no - not me! I find the photo paired with that assumption to be 100% unappealing.

"That's because I think 12% bodyfat is horrifyingly fat" - Seriously? Maybe it's horrifyingly fat for people going for a certain aesthetic look, but medically and health-wise 12% isn't anywhere near fat.

Different people have different goals.

ETA... I looked at his photo in his blogger bio. He looks like he might blow an aneurysm! He doesn't look/sound like the kind of person I'd go to for health and fitness advice. :laugh:

^^^ This!

I find it hard to respect anything the guy says when he doesnt seem to be able to complete a sentence without using the f-bomb.

littlelaura

"The Solution"

" First, they have to deprogram themselves from years of ****ty dietary habits and the concomitant emotional attachment to foods. This is a massive problem for most people, as most people associate certain foods with certain feelings."

"...avoids protein and eats nothing but fat and sugar when they're upset, and that generally comes in the form of baked goods, pasta covered in cheese, and potatoes. Frankly, that makes no sense to me, because half the time they'll tell you they're depressed because they feel fat. The answer, then, is pretty simple, but they seem to prefer the emotional gratification of eating that bs than they do the rational solution sitting in front of them."

You might think, if you find yourself doing that, that it's justified biochemically or hormonally, but hear this:

F***. THAT. ****."

Probably the best paragraph ever.
*cuss words removed in reposting of quote per mfp rules*

lornaloo3

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cmaceluch

If your goal is to be a musclebound testosterone fueled aggressive individual, I'd say definitely read it. Not everyone has the same goals.

You're one of those people that think anyone that enjoys lifting weights intensely and thinks they become a musclehead aggressive freak. Keep being ignorant, it makes me work harder to look better than 99% of the world.

lisamichelle123

"Like that pilot, you're just going to have to give it more gas to keep making any progress, and keep going the exact same way you're going to avoid having the hurrican just slam you into the f****** ground. Make no mistake- if you stray from the course that got you to your stall, you will f****** crash and burn. Instead, you just give that f***** more gas to get through the dark period. Like that pilot, you will get out of the storm, and you will be f****** happy with the results when you do."


This was amazing (I starred the naughty words haha). Great article

paulaviki

Personally, I thought the article was ridiculous!

"What women really want is a vascular man." - Umm... no - not me! I find the photo paired with that assumption to be 100% unappealing.

I gave up on the article at this point, that picture made me feel sick...................:sick:

kbitzonefour

I'd just hate to see all of you complaining about vascularity date anyone fit. How disgusting it must be......
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Are you serious?

Gallowmere1984

Thanks for all of the feedback. It gives me a pretty good indicator of who on here is capable of rational thought and deduction in the face of something somewhat unpleasant.

First, the picture of the vascular man that everyone is crying about was put in there as a bit of a joke. Very few people possess that kind of vasculature even at very low BF %s, so it's a fairly moot point.

Second, much of that is his opinion and observations on the subject, however his articles are some of the most heavily sourced I have ever seen. The guy reads medical studies on a nearly constant basis. For those who quit reading because of the delivery: oh well, your loss. He has more knowledge about biomechanics and the world of human anatomy than most of the population of this board combined.

mensasu

A little to hardcore for me. I want to get in shape, but I don't want it to consume my life. There are more important things in life than seeing my veins bc I have 8% body fat. But if that's your thing and makes you happy, then go for it.

ditto

My goal is to drop weight, and be healthier but I have no interest in doing the "body builder" stuff. I have changed how and what I eat and do exercise that I can fit in and sustain. Way back in my 20's I became exercise obsessed and that can be as bad an addiction as any other. The endorphins from exercise can be quite alluring, and as a result I have long term injuries that I suffer with daily. I can't reverse the damage but I can do what's sensible and right for me.

Plus in the end I did find his language offensive and none of the pictures did it for me.

I know there are a lot of body-builder types out there in MFP land so I guess this article is more for you.

Gallowmere1984

A little to hardcore for me. I want to get in shape, but I don't want it to consume my life. There are more important things in life than seeing my veins bc I have 8% body fat. But if that's your thing and makes you happy, then go for it.

ditto

My goal is to drop weight, and be healthier but I have no interest in doing the "body builder" stuff. I have changed how and what I eat and do exercise that I can fit in and sustain. Way back in my 20's I became exercise obsessed and that can be as bad an addiction as any other. The endorphins from exercise can be quite alluring, and as a result I have long term injuries that I suffer with daily. I can't reverse the damage but I can do what's sensible and right for me.

Plus in the end I did find his language offensive and none of the pictures did it for me.

I know there are a lot of body-builder types out there in MFP land so I guess this article is more for you.

Yes and no. A lot of his points can and should be absorbed by anyone who wants to get themselves in any shape other than round.

As for your injuries: everyone gets hurt at some point in the training world. The author of that article for example sheared off a bone spur and tore a tricep all at the same time after knocking himself retarded doing a btn push press with a heavy weight, then proceeding to fall into another piece of equipment. He kept training through it, and as of now is a record holding powerlifter.

Everyone has goals, and it's all about how hard you are willing to push yourself to get through it. There's a lot that people here can learn from the people who train hardcore. Just as an example: I see so many people on here ready to give up after a little soreness, and a couple of days of failing their diet. Really? You're sore, and binged for two days, and are willing to let that relegate you to a life of suck? **** that! Get your **** together, stand back up, and push harder. If you're not dead, there's still time for you to fix yourself.

mensasu

I think there is a difference between committed and hard core. I agree that some people are not really committed to making the changes they need, but you do not have to go hard core to get your results. Moderation works wonders for most people while hard core can scare them off. I am committed to making a change, but have no desire to do it *above all else in my life*. If you need that kind of attitude to make it work for you, fine - more power to you.

needamulligan

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Gallowmere1984

I think there is a difference between committed and hard core. I agree that some people are not really committed to making the changes they need, but you do not have to go hard core to get your results. Moderation works wonders for most people while hard core can scare them off. I am committed to making a change, but have no desire to do it *above all else in my life*. If you need that kind of attitude to make it work for you, fine - more power to you.

I was more referring to the 'stop making excuses and push harder' aspect of it.

You are correct however. I am an "all or nothing" kind of person. In my view, if you aren't aiming to be the best at something, why bother? History doesn't remember half measures.

To use my favorite example: Ghengis Khan. Anyone remember the names of any of the 'average' people that his crew roflstomped? I didn't think so. Remember that guy in the 80s who just wanted to get in 'okay' shape, and keep muddling away at his 9-5 until he died? Me neither. Those guys who set powerlifting records almost a century ago that still haven't been broken? They inspire some of us to this very day, to aspire for greatness.

mensasu

As a side
Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too.
An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.


I don't want to be remembered outside my friends and family and I am not looking to be the "best at something". I'm doing things for me, not for others approval so I'm fine with just being committed to my goals. I understand that other people do want to do something memorable but for me I will remember those who made contributions that are humanitarian, inventive, science-expanding or life-altering.

...signing off now.... good luck to your quest for excellence

karmaology

He's a bit scary. He hit a few points. But, overall, he came off as rude and ignorant. Wasn't worth the read, IMO. :grumble:

Jester522

After he said potatoes are making me fat, I quit reading.

That's not what was stated. Keep reading. And potatoes don't make you fat they just contribute to heart disease. Frequently eating over maintenance makes you gain weight.

There's a lot of truth to this but there's also a lot of ranting personal perspectives and unnecessary vulgarity.

Lrdoflamancha

Me too bump

Jester522

"The Solution"

" First, they have to deprogram themselves from years of ****ty dietary habits and the concomitant emotional attachment to foods. This is a massive problem for most people, as most people associate certain foods with certain feelings."

"...avoids protein and eats nothing but fat and sugar when they're upset, and that generally comes in the form of baked goods, pasta covered in cheese, and potatoes. Frankly, that makes no sense to me, because half the time they'll tell you they're depressed because they feel fat. The answer, then, is pretty simple, but they seem to prefer the emotional gratification of eating that bs than they do the rational solution sitting in front of them."

You might think, if you find yourself doing that, that it's justified biochemically or hormonally, but hear this:

F***. THAT. ****."

Probably the best paragraph ever.
*cuss words removed in reposting of quote per mfp rules*

Bingooooooo

Emtabo01

Anyone else more annoyed by the white text on a black background than actual article content?

jesse1379

Read the whole thing and liked it. Thanks

Gallowmere1984

Anyone else more annoyed by the white text on a black background than actual article content?

That's done for a reason. It's been proven to reduce eye strain and headaches. Starting at a white background on a computer screen isn't much different than staring into a lightbulb, so far as your ocular nerves are concerned.

deniseblossoms

I liked it, kinda read through the shock value for the valuable content. Thought he made some pretty good points.

Thanks for sharing.

Motleybird

I have no desire to be a bodybuilder, even less so after seeing all the pictures and listening to his idea of healthy eating. Even so, the article had a lot of good points in it. Don't let the stall freak you out. Stay focused. Do something you enjoy and are good at. Do what you need to do to keep yourself motivated. Good advice.

lauren3101

The article made some good points, but I personally found him rude and his language unnecessary. His criticism of women is not entirely justified either; I know plenty of men who eat for comfort.

Gallowmere1984

The article made some good points, but I personally found him rude and his language unnecessary. His criticism of women is not entirely justified either; I know plenty of men who eat for comfort.

So do I, and they are fat too. However, you can't deny that far more women are known to do this than men.

lauren3101

The article made some good points, but I personally found him rude and his language unnecessary. His criticism of women is not entirely justified either; I know plenty of men who eat for comfort.

So do I, and they are fat too. However, you can't deny that far more women are known to do this than men.

Absolutely, I don't deny that at all, It was the way he said it though; very derogatory to women (in my opinion).

nexangelus

rape jokes, misogynistic, throwing the retard word around, the article is just a rude inappropriate rehash of stuff I already know

I thought some of his message was good, but his delivery sucked.

What these two ladies said.

nyxrun

*bump* for when I'm at home and not subject to the "You'll get screwed if you visit this site" restrictions

sho3girl

thanks for sharing gonna tell my inner child to stfu!