Poor and fat in the US?
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Meat doesn't need to be the sole source of protein either. There is plenty of protein in non-meat choices like: beans, brown rice, quinoa, lentils, nuts, eggs etc. These are all super cheap, especially if you buy them in bulk (non packaged, use a scoop and weigh it method)
My diet is mostly vegetarian, and I'm getting in nearly 90g of protein a day. My food bill is really low.
EDIT: I live in West Los Angeles (Marina del Rey) Everything is more expensive here, and my bill remains affordable because I don't expect to eat steak and lobster every night. Chickpea curry and brown rice will have to do =P It's about $1.50 per serving.0 -
I can't speak in terms of smaller, rural cities, but I live 30 seconds outside of a pretty well known big city... that is known for being the most crime-ridden, poor city in the US more times than none (depending on what "list" or survey you're looking at).
Big cities have a bigger ethnic makeup; with a bigger ethnic makeup comes ethnic markets. Nothing, NOTHING beats the prices of a farmers market or an ethnic market. Ethnic markets are open all year with ridiculously cheap prices on produce, meats, etc. This city is well known for having ****ty public transportation... but it still has public transportation. No one doesn't have a car here (I'm giving you all hints on this city!).
Granted, I live in the stretch of super drought stricken states, so certain items HAVE gotten more expensive. But the almost $6 I saw for a pound of apples at a supermarket was much more expensive than the $3 for a pound I saw at the produce market I always go to.
Since most of this is produce related... if you want cheap protein, you will not find tofu cheaper than at an Asian market.0 -
I can't speak in terms of smaller, rural cities, but I live 30 seconds outside of a pretty well known big city... that is known for being the most crime-ridden, poor city in the US more times than none (depending on what "list" or survey you're looking at).
Big cities have a bigger ethnic makeup; with a bigger ethnic makeup comes ethnic markets. Nothing, NOTHING beats the prices of a farmers market or an ethnic market. Ethnic markets are open all year with ridiculously cheap prices on produce, meats, etc. This city is well known for having ****ty public transportation... but it still has public transportation. No one doesn't have a car here (I'm giving you all hints on this city!).
Granted, I live in the stretch of super drought stricken states, so certain items HAVE gotten more expensive. But the almost $6 I saw for a pound of apples at a supermarket was much more expensive than the $3 for a pound I saw at the produce market I always go to.
Since most of this is produce related... if you want cheap protein, you will not find tofu cheaper than at an Asian market.
I can make an educated guess as to the location of said city. Agree about the Asian markets too. I buy huge bags of brown rice, and super cheap tofu.0 -
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/05/opinion/granderson-poverty-health/index.html
Are there anybody on here that is in this situation?! My friend is looking to becoming more healthy, and has agreed to start insanity.
Unfortunatly he comes from a poor family, and I dont live in the U.S, so I dont know anything about the food over there!
Do any of you know of good cheap food? That you can eat while working out? Food with proteins for when you are done! Etc etc..
Help? This is incredibly frustrating..
It doesn't matter when you eat (before/during/after) workouts. Most the stuff about food timing in a myth. It's personal preference and mindset. I used to think I HAD to eat before I worked out or I would wilt, die, whatever. Now I don't eat and I head straight to the gym and workout and wait an hour to eat. I'm strong as ever. Does not matter. But until recently I said I couldn't do it. It was all mindset and adjustment.
I don't know what it's like to live in a big city and the cost of food there. I'm used to being near local farms. Looks like there are some good ideas from others here on protein sources that are not too expensive.
Best of luck to you! -Bobbie0 -
@gregcharland: (Since the quote button is not working) I'm in suburban Manhattan, just outside of in NJ. When I lived in Manhattan though, groceries were 25-35% higher. It actually was about the same price to eat at local restaurants as to cook for myself as one person in Manhattan.
When I moved to the burbs, I literally danced through the aisles of the store as everything seemed so cheap! LOL
When I lived in upstate NY, I figure out that driving south 20 minutes saved me 20% on groceries. Same grocery chain, but worse neighborhood, so it was all cheaper.
And when I lived in Cambridge, going over the bridge to Allston also proved advantageous in prices. If you have a "less desirable" area near you, shop there. Always cheaper, even in the same grocery chain.
I have seen this too in Manhattan, Chicago, San Francisco and other big cities or college towns but as I just showed in my post chicken breasts can be purchased for $1.77 a lb. in the Detroit suburbs. Now I wonder about the rest of the country.
Again, here is the link http://findnsave.detroitnews.com/Circulars/1000514/Hillers-Markets/22633-v734240 -
Absolutely time consuming. I do think even 10 minutes a day on a local blog can save you 25% on your bill because a good one will lay out the BEST deals that week by deal or store or both so you don't have to look over ads a ton. If you have an older kid you can teach them to do it...my daugther learned by watching me over the years but I could have taught her faster
Do you have any links for local Phoenix (west sider here) blogs? I'd be interested in checking them out.0 -
I can't speak in terms of smaller, rural cities, but I live 30 seconds outside of a pretty well known big city... that is known for being the most crime-ridden, poor city in the US more times than none (depending on what "list" or survey you're looking at).
Big cities have a bigger ethnic makeup; with a bigger ethnic makeup comes ethnic markets. Nothing, NOTHING beats the prices of a farmers market or an ethnic market. Ethnic markets are open all year with ridiculously cheap prices on produce, meats, etc. This city is well known for having ****ty public transportation... but it still has public transportation. No one doesn't have a car here (I'm giving you all hints on this city!).
Granted, I live in the stretch of super drought stricken states, so certain items HAVE gotten more expensive. But the almost $6 I saw for a pound of apples at a supermarket was much more expensive than the $3 for a pound I saw at the produce market I always go to.
Since most of this is produce related... if you want cheap protein, you will not find tofu cheaper than at an Asian market.
I think we might be near the same major city.0 -
If anyone has access to HBO on Demand check out the 4 part documentary series "Weight of the Nation" It is very informative, insightful and talks about a lot of what I am reading here. Really good documentary and made me think a lot about what/how I am eating.0
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I can't speak in terms of smaller, rural cities, but I live 30 seconds outside of a pretty well known big city... that is known for being the most crime-ridden, poor city in the US more times than none (depending on what "list" or survey you're looking at).
Big cities have a bigger ethnic makeup; with a bigger ethnic makeup comes ethnic markets. Nothing, NOTHING beats the prices of a farmers market or an ethnic market. Ethnic markets are open all year with ridiculously cheap prices on produce, meats, etc. This city is well known for having ****ty public transportation... but it still has public transportation. No one doesn't have a car here (I'm giving you all hints on this city!).
Granted, I live in the stretch of super drought stricken states, so certain items HAVE gotten more expensive. But the almost $6 I saw for a pound of apples at a supermarket was much more expensive than the $3 for a pound I saw at the produce market I always go to.
Since most of this is produce related... if you want cheap protein, you will not find tofu cheaper than at an Asian market.
I think we might be near the same major city.
Haha, yes, I saw your earlier post. You'd be correct
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Absolutely time consuming. I do think even 10 minutes a day on a local blog can save you 25% on your bill because a good one will lay out the BEST deals that week by deal or store or both so you don't have to look over ads a ton. If you have an older kid you can teach them to do it...my daugther learned by watching me over the years but I could have taught her faster
Do you have any links for local Phoenix (west sider here) blogs? I'd be interested in checking them out.
I don't know what 'west' side is...I'm in ahwatukee (southwest) and if you go to www.the centsableshoppin. com (no spaces) you'll get some great deals listed there, HOWEVER, I would add that I suppliment her add with my own Sprouts research as I prefer not to go to Food City or Pro's Ranch (too far and too dangerous alone). Sheryl covers CVS and Walgreens (absolute musts...) Fry's, Safeway, Target, WalMart, Basha's etc. and there are links so you can learn general strategy as at first glance it can be overwhelming. You can start there as the ads should be similar to west phoenix, with the biggest difference being that unmarked deals varry from store to store.0 -
I see this with my mother everyday. It hurts to see it too. We live in a town 45 minutes from the nearest grocery store. We have Dollar General stores and one general store, not even really any convenience stores. My mother buys 99% of her food at the dollar store. Boxed crap, all of it. Boxed crap and liquid calories. She wants to lose weight, and I try to tell her to keep track of calories and sometimes I think she gets it, but as soon as she steps into the store I see her buy all this crap. What do I do? If i point it out, she gets pissed off. Its a no win situation. If I had money I could buy her food for her, but I'm a college student and my boyfriend's parents buy ALL of our stuff as my boyfriend has been laid off from work for a while (we both work seasonal jobs in a greenhouse but I'm there year round since she keeps me weekends only on the off season).
I don't think it's a money issue necessarily. I am far more poor than my mother and I do not eat boxed crap at all. I realize that produce and dried beans and even fresh meat are both more cost effective RIGHT now but also in medical costs down the road. The difference is that I'm a college student going to school 45 minutes away 4 times a week and can get groceries with my boyfriend's parents money. Certainly not ideal for anyone, but I truly worry about my mother. She is obese and eats all this crap. *sigh*
Food deserts definitely exist. I've grown up in one. And whats really weird, 40 years ago everyone grew their own food here. Now that we don't have time to grow (or the skills, I guess) we have nothing.0 -
I see this with my mother everyday. It hurts to see it too. We live in a town 45 minutes from the nearest grocery store. We have Dollar General stores and one general store, not even really any convenience stores. My mother buys 99% of her food at the dollar store. Boxed crap, all of it. Boxed crap and liquid calories. She wants to lose weight, and I try to tell her to keep track of calories and sometimes I think she gets it, but as soon as she steps into the store I see her buy all this crap. What do I do? If i point it out, she gets pissed off. Its a no win situation. If I had money I could buy her food for her, but I'm a college student and my boyfriend's parents buy ALL of our stuff as my boyfriend has been laid off from work for a while (we both work seasonal jobs in a greenhouse but I'm there year round since she keeps me weekends only on the off season).
I don't think it's a money issue necessarily. I am far more poor than my mother and I do not eat boxed crap at all. I realize that produce and dried beans and even fresh meat are both more cost effective RIGHT now but also in medical costs down the road. The difference is that I'm a college student going to school 45 minutes away 4 times a week and can get groceries with my boyfriend's parents money. Certainly not ideal for anyone, but I truly worry about my mother. She is obese and eats all this crap. *sigh*
Well if she really truely wants to lsoe the weight ask her to give u money and you can shop for her when u get groceries.0 -
Well if she really truely wants to lsoe the weight ask her to give u money and you can shop for her when u get groceries.
That's another thing though... even though she has more money than I do, she is in very severe debt and rarely can afford a lot of groceries at once. That is part of why she buys things at the dollar store... she doesn't seem to understand that spending more at once is the same as small purchases everyday. She also has no idea how to cook, or the desire to cook. When she does its like pot roast in the crockpot. I need to make more meals for us to eat together (I live 5 minutes away), but we don't like the same foods all that much.0 -
What basic dish have peasants loved the world over, forever? Stew*. Makes a little meat go a long way. You can go all in with legumes, etc. And, delicious.
*Or, curry, whatever you want to call it. Little bits of meat with mostly other stuff. Stir-fry = same deal.0 -
Steel cut oatmeal is a great breakfast and it's cheap even at small town health food store.0
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Has the XL Beef recall already been mentioned?
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/beef+recall+What+consumers+need+know/7352210/story.html0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.0
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I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.0 -
Well if she really truely wants to lsoe the weight ask her to give u money and you can shop for her when u get groceries.
That's another thing though... even though she has more money than I do, she is in very severe debt and rarely can afford a lot of groceries at once. That is part of why she buys things at the dollar store... she doesn't seem to understand that spending more at once is the same as small purchases everyday. She also has no idea how to cook, or the desire to cook. When she does its like pot roast in the crockpot. I need to make more meals for us to eat together (I live 5 minutes away), but we don't like the same foods all that much.
Sounds like you've given her all the information you can and need to not take the burdon on yourself if she's not willing to accept the help and facts. I know allllll about being in debt, it is hard to save and budget ahead.0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.
Exactly, a budget problem If she really is trying to get out of debt send her on to Dave Ramsey's website to create a budget and plan to get out of the mess. It works. If she needs to budget for clothes budget for clothes, fi she needs to budget for food budget for food...if there's not enough for both I think we all know which one has to wait. 0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.
Exactly, a budget problem If she really is trying to get out of debt send her on to Dave Ramsey's website to create a budget and plan to get out of the mess. It works. If she needs to budget for clothes budget for clothes, fi she needs to budget for food budget for food...if there's not enough for both I think we all know which one has to wait.
Pretty hard to budget NO money.... People make it sound sooo easy... *sigh*0 -
You'd be amazed at how much "extra" money I have since I started getting healthier. No booze (50 bucks a week prolly at the bar) no cigarettes (prolly another 25 a week) no fast food/eating out (I'd say at least 50 more.) also I eat a ton of meat, in California we produce a lot of chicken/dairy/beef. So it's not very expensive here, if you don't have to buy the "best cuts" all the time you can easily find a good 16 oz Steak for around 2-3 bucks at most places. Buying in bulk helps even more. I got 8 lbs of boneless skinless chicken breasts for 10 bucks the other day. Produce is great here too. I live on a limited budget as well, times are really tough here in the Central Valley of California right now. I refuse to eat crap because I don't have a lot if money. I have up driving my truck (there is no way I'm paying 4.50 a gallon for gas) and rise my bike now. The extra exercise is good for me anyway lol. I guess what I'm saying is that it's tough right now, everyone is struggling to make ends meet, but food is one area that you should avoid making cuts to. There are programs out there to help, they're is nothing wrong with needing a little assistance in these times. 0
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Its laziness. Plain and simple.
We were poor when I lived in Ukraine (no indoor plumbing, well water for drinking/bathing) and had zero problem with obesity. Even if you live in an apartment you can still grow at least some of your own veggies, only buy stuff on sale, do not go out to eat, coupon coupon coupon. Maybe forgo cable TV for a while or choose between that and internet (had to do that when I was in college...it was fine...just watch programs online).
When we came to the states we were still poor to start (in debt, not a lot of money, lived in the projects, etc etc) but my parents made smart decisions. I think we went to McDonalds/pizza/donuts maybeeee once every two months as a "treat" and my mom cooked all our meals. Its possible, you just have to work a little harder.
It was actually when we started seeing money when we (well...me....hahaha) went a little nuts with the partyin 0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.
Exactly, a budget problem If she really is trying to get out of debt send her on to Dave Ramsey's website to create a budget and plan to get out of the mess. It works. If she needs to budget for clothes budget for clothes, fi she needs to budget for food budget for food...if there's not enough for both I think we all know which one has to wait.
Pretty hard to budget NO money.... People make it sound sooo easy... *sigh*
It is NOT easy but there are families paying off their houses by sticking to a budget, and I'm talking about families making less than 50K a year, some even less than that. Like it or not the lady in question IS spending money at the dollar store with incredibly high unit prices for very little non nutritious food. I do not like excuses, or road blocks. When you decide to lose weight, you will. Period. Get rid of cable, get rid of internet, go to the library don't buy clothes....there are tons of things you can change once you have your priorities straight. Beyond that given how many american's are on food stamps if you have still cancelled ALL of that and STILL don't have enough for food, you likely qualify.0 -
Its laziness. Plain and simple.
We were poor when I lived in Ukraine (no indoor plumbing, well water for drinking/bathing) and had zero problem with obesity. Even if you live in an apartment you can still grow at least some of your own veggies, only buy stuff on sale, do not go out to eat, coupon coupon coupon. Maybe forgo cable TV for a while or choose between that and internet (had to do that when I was in college...it was fine...just watch programs online).
When we came to the states we were still poor to start (in debt, not a lot of money, lived in the projects, etc etc) but my parents made smart decisions. I think we went to McDonalds/pizza/donuts maybeeee once every two months as a "treat" and my mom cooked all our meals. Its possible, you just have to work a little harder.
It was actually when we started seeing money when we (well...me....hahaha) went a little nuts with the partyin Agreed, and congratulations for your hard work. 0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.
Exactly, a budget problem If she really is trying to get out of debt send her on to Dave Ramsey's website to create a budget and plan to get out of the mess. It works. If she needs to budget for clothes budget for clothes, fi she needs to budget for food budget for food...if there's not enough for both I think we all know which one has to wait.
Pretty hard to budget NO money.... People make it sound sooo easy... *sigh*
It is NOT easy but there are families paying off their houses by sticking to a budget, and I'm talking about families making less than 50K a year, some even less than that. Like it or not the lady in question IS spending money at the dollar store with incredibly high unit prices for very little non nutritious food. I do not like excuses, or road blocks. When you decide to lose weight, you will. Period. Get rid of cable, get rid of internet, go to the library don't buy clothes....there are tons of things you can change once you have your priorities straight. Beyond that given how many american's are on food stamps if you have still cancelled ALL of that and STILL don't have enough for food, you likely qualify.
No where in that post mentions anything you said. Clothes are a necessity unless you want to be arrested. I agree that it is not easy, but some people are living on minimum wage and have almost nothing. Food stamps do help but are not as easy to get as people think they are.0 -
Honestly, if you can't afford to eat. Literally. Like you don't pay for an cell phone, Internet, cable tv, alcohol, cigarettes or anything else that isn't a necessity. And you still can't afford to feed yourself, you WILL qualify, no if, ands, or buts about it. And if that is a true statement for anyone they should and will receive assistance. And I 100% think that being able to eat is important. IF, and you won't, but IF you are living without the abilty to eat and are denied assistance, please don't stop there, call the newspaper, representative, local news station, and put it out there!! Also, if you are in need don't hesitate to go down to your local church and ask for help, at mine you do not need to be a member or have even been there before! Sorry for the long post, I feel very stongly about people having the right to eat. I believe it's a basic human right that everyone should be entitled toI know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Very good point.
Exactly, a budget problem If she really is trying to get out of debt send her on to Dave Ramsey's website to create a budget and plan to get out of the mess. It works. If she needs to budget for clothes budget for clothes, fi she needs to budget for food budget for food...if there's not enough for both I think we all know which one has to wait.
Pretty hard to budget NO money.... People make it sound sooo easy... *sigh*
It is NOT easy but there are families paying off their houses by sticking to a budget, and I'm talking about families making less than 50K a year, some even less than that. Like it or not the lady in question IS spending money at the dollar store with incredibly high unit prices for very little non nutritious food. I do not like excuses, or road blocks. When you decide to lose weight, you will. Period. Get rid of cable, get rid of internet, go to the library don't buy clothes....there are tons of things you can change once you have your priorities straight. Beyond that given how many american's are on food stamps if you have still cancelled ALL of that and STILL don't have enough for food, you likely qualify.
No where in that post mentions anything you said. Clothes are a necessity unless you want to be arrested. I agree that it is not easy, but some people are living on minimum wage and have almost nothing. Food stamps do help but are not as easy to get as people think they are. 0 -
Seems like alot of people are complaining about not having time to go through coupons. Maybe there should be a group on MFP where people can share deals and coupons they find with other users..
Like I said in the first post, I'm not from the states, so I dont really know how coupons and stuff work there, if a coupon can work at the same store in the whole country, or if it is just for that particular store, or maybe just in that state..
Maybe people could start groups, and then people from their state could join it?0 -
Poor and fat in the US? Fat is a often a portion control (and snacking) issue, addressing that will greatly aid in budgeting for the store.
Anyone who makes a commitment to eating right can do so for a similar cost of eating crappy. The issues are typically convenience and planning- not money. There are plenty of good cheap foods available. Even if you have to feed a family- it does not matter if you are feed 1 or 10- you may need more effort to feed 10 but the principal is the same.
For planning you can look at sites like emeals.com, they have weekly meal plans based on what's on sale at your local grocery store chain and you select the diet type. That takes the need for couponing out and also provides you the meal plan, recipes and grocery list. You can't get much easier than that. It cost a few bucks to join but the convenience will offset the cost for most.
If you still need cheaper, you'll have to put forth the effort yourself to research and plan out the meals and look at coupons, etc.
Very few of us are rich- but we made a commitment to ourselves to get healthy... anyone can do it, if they make the choice.0 -
I know for myself that I don't just buy food with my food budget. Household items, pet stuff, hairspray/makeup, and even the occasional work shirt will fall into the food budget category. As a student and low income worker, the food budget is the only place where my money is flexible. There is nowhere left to cut. And yes, I have to have the internet since I'm a student and I'm starting my own business. I usually only spend $50-60 a week for two people and not just for our food. It doesn't leave a whole lot of room for meat. Here ground beef is $8 or more a pound and that's at the cheap store in town. Let's just say, I eat beans for 1/2 the week or more. This may be why some of the poor are having a hard time. They aren't using their food budgets just for food. It's all their supplies too. Just a thought.
Well of course that's at play... what many of the other posts on here have been saying is that it's VERY possible to get healthy food cheaper than processed food. Meat is expensive and generally will always be expensive (unless you get manager's specials), but produce is super cheap and attainable at multiple markets, brown rice is beyond cheap at Asian markets, whole wheat pasta can be purchased for under a $1 at WalMart, etc.0
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