What counts as water
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water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?0 -
water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?0 -
water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?0 -
water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?
The point is, as soon as you add things like sodium and caffeine, your "required" daily water intake INCREASES. Caffeine is a diuretic (which makes you poo out more water), and sodium makes your tissues harbor more water (that then becomes unavailable for daily processes) so technically yes, all liquids are water, but additives like caffeine and sodium cause MORE water loss than in a normal day without it.
I have been told for every cup of coffee, drink another one of plain water to offset the loss. I'm sure it can go for similar beverages with sodium and caffeine.0 -
Everyone needs to make this decision for themselves. I don't really count water, but then I drink a ton of it without counting. The point is that you drink enough FLUIDS to keep your body hydrated. Water is not the only thing that can do it, but if you want to set personal goals of drinking x amount of water, or x amount of fluids, or x amount of tea, or whatever you want to set a goal for, do it. It doesn't make your goal any less valid than someone elses.0
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water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?
The point is, as soon as you add things like sodium and caffeine, your "required" daily water intake INCREASES. Caffeine is a diuretic (which makes you poo out more water), and sodium makes your tissues harbor more water (that then becomes unavailable for daily processes) so technically yes, all liquids are water, but the caffeine itself causes MORE water loss than in a normal day without it.
I have been told for every cup of coffee, drink another one of plain water to offset the loss. I'm sure it can go for similar beverages with sodium and caffeine.
Eh. Not true about reasonable amounts of caffeine. But whatever.
Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
If you choose to only count plain water for yourselves, that's totally cool. But it doesn't mean others can't choose a different path. Milk, juice, all of those things hydrate the body. The "water" requirement is about hydration, not how much plain water one must ingest.0 -
water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?
The point is, as soon as you add things like sodium and caffeine, your "required" daily water intake INCREASES. Caffeine is a diuretic (which makes you poo out more water), and sodium makes your tissues harbor more water (that then becomes unavailable for daily processes) so technically yes, all liquids are water, but the caffeine itself causes MORE water loss than in a normal day without it.
I have been told for every cup of coffee, drink another one of plain water to offset the loss. I'm sure it can go for similar beverages with sodium and caffeine.
Eh. Not true about reasonable amounts of caffeine. But whatever.
Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
If you choose to only count plain water for yourselves, that's totally cool. But it doesn't mean others can't choose a different path. Milk, juice, all of those things hydrate the body. The "water" requirement is about hydration, not how much plain water one must ingest.
Apparently caffeine is not a diuretic. News to me. (woo now I don't have to hit my water goal so high now)0 -
water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?
The point is, as soon as you add things like sodium and caffeine, your "required" daily water intake INCREASES. Caffeine is a diuretic (which makes you poo out more water), and sodium makes your tissues harbor more water (that then becomes unavailable for daily processes) so technically yes, all liquids are water, but the caffeine itself causes MORE water loss than in a normal day without it.
I have been told for every cup of coffee, drink another one of plain water to offset the loss. I'm sure it can go for similar beverages with sodium and caffeine.
Eh. Not true about reasonable amounts of caffeine. But whatever.
Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
If you choose to only count plain water for yourselves, that's totally cool. But it doesn't mean others can't choose a different path. Milk, juice, all of those things hydrate the body. The "water" requirement is about hydration, not how much plain water one must ingest.
Apparently caffeine is not a diuretic. News to me. (woo now I don't have to hit my water goal so high now)
Try reading this: http://answers.webmd.com/answers/1166858/is-caffeine-a-diuretic0 -
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water is water...if its black tea then that's black tea.... If its coffee I call that coffee. If its milk I call that Milk. Captain Morgan I call that my little secret. DONT JUDGE
So ... the water in the tea ceases to be water when you add tea? How does that chemical reaction work?
Yes you are correct. It changes from water into tea. If it remained water we would call it.... Water: not tea. You dont understand how tea leaves work in water?
Again, I ask, how is the water that you added tea leaves to no longer water? It is now water with tea leaves in it, yes. But how is it not still H2O?
The point is, as soon as you add things like sodium and caffeine, your "required" daily water intake INCREASES. Caffeine is a diuretic (which makes you poo out more water), and sodium makes your tissues harbor more water (that then becomes unavailable for daily processes) so technically yes, all liquids are water, but the caffeine itself causes MORE water loss than in a normal day without it.
I have been told for every cup of coffee, drink another one of plain water to offset the loss. I'm sure it can go for similar beverages with sodium and caffeine.
Eh. Not true about reasonable amounts of caffeine. But whatever.
Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
If you choose to only count plain water for yourselves, that's totally cool. But it doesn't mean others can't choose a different path. Milk, juice, all of those things hydrate the body. The "water" requirement is about hydration, not how much plain water one must ingest.Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
Actually no ..it makes it Tea or coffee or crystal light. It contains water but so does. Paint! Good luck with your diet and your paint drinking.0 -
Water is water and adding tea or coffee or Crystal Light to it doesn't make it not water.
Actually no ..it makes it Tea or coffee or crystal light. It contains water but so does. Paint! Good luck with your diet and your paint drinking.
You're ... interesting in your logic.0 -
I count water as water, the tracker isn't tracking liquids, and although crystal lite etc has water in it, it still isn't water. seems kind of a silly thread to me, but apparently more people than I thought count nearly everything without calories in it as water...sorry but coffee & diet coke, do not do the same thing as water.0
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My assumption is that the water tracker is there to make sure that you stay hydrated.
Mayo clinic and other reliable sources clearly state that one doesn't need "pure" water to stay hydrated and healthy.
Your body is quite capable of extracting H2O from most liquids and food (i.e. not alcohol and probably not paint!) and that the diuretic effect of caffeine is not an issue.
If you like to track only "water" because it makes you feel good, feel full etc, you like to pee a lot, go for it.
You don't have to count coffee, tea, juice, milk as water but your body does.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?0 -
Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?0 -
Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?
In a situation where there's NO DRINKABLE WATER, one could feasibly drink their own pee and somehow remain hydrated (according to movies). Explain that all you 'only pure water hydrates' supporters!!!!0 -
I drink tap water, bottle water, club soda sometimes with a sliced of lemon and bottle water that has no sweeteners and no ARTIFICIAL sweeteners such as Sobe lifewater (They have only 3 or 4 that meet this requirement , so be careful white which one you choose )
Does anyone else have any suggestion for water that might meet these requirements0 -
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Around 98%(or maybe more) of the foods you eat contain water. It is injected to a lot of meats to `plump` them up. Fruit n veg contain fluids/water.
IMHO anything you eat/drink contains water but that is the pedantic reply.
So otherwise, drinking fluid ie tea/coffee is part of your water intake so love your wife and forget about the argument lol!0 -
Life is full of opinions. I dont think either of use are wrong. Most fluids count as water I was told by my nutritionist tea and coffee count as ud have to drink insane amounts to dehydrate you.
Personally I only log water and weak squash. Yet I log fruit juice because of the calories and tea as I add milk!
Just my personal preference0 -
I think only a certain amount of fluids are needed. For fluids, I count anything that is fluid. I try to keep the calories at zero a cup but will add a little creamer or milk (up to 35 calories a cup) for coffee and tea. I only count water as water but dont think 8 cups is needed if other fluids are being drank.0
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Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?
In a situation where there's NO DRINKABLE WATER, one could feasibly drink their own pee and somehow remain hydrated (according to movies). Explain that all you 'only pure water hydrates' supporters!!!!
I never said only pure water hydrates, I'm saying I only log water. Because the tracker says "water" and to me, crystal light isn't water, it's crystal light. Yes there's water in it, but the beverage itself isn't water. I'm not pushing my views on anyone, but OP asked for a tally of who logs what as water. I personally, only log straight water, Just to make sure that I'm getting enough, and the water in my spare beverages such as tea/diet coke etc, is kind of a buffer for me.0 -
I don't drink "pure clear water with nothing added" because I don't like it...and guess what? When I drink WATER with Crystal Light added-it STILL hydrates me and I am losing weight...when I don't drink it, I slow down on my weight loss...so I'm going to drink it and I'm going to log it as water.0
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Some things just aren't this complicated.......0
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all of those things count as water, but they also come with calories, nothing is as good as pure H2O0
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I never said only pure water hydrates, I'm saying I only log water. Because the tracker says "water" and to me, crystal light isn't water, it's crystal light. Yes there's water in it, but the beverage itself isn't water. I'm not pushing my views on anyone, but OP asked for a tally of who logs what as water. I personally, only log straight water, Just to make sure that I'm getting enough, and the water in my spare beverages such as tea/diet coke etc, is kind of a buffer for me.
The OP didn't ask what others log. The OP asked if other drinks besides pure water could count towards pure water. What you DO and what science says are two different things.
Water with Crystal Light is still water, regardless of whether you personally log it as such.0 -
Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?
I never said. ONLY PURE WATER HYDRATES.... I said. Tea is tea not water. Coffee is coffee not water. Crystal light is crystal light NOT WATER. Paint is Paint
You mix 2 Hydrogen Molecules with 1 Oxygen molecule is it still Hydrogen? Just because something contains a majority of something else does not mean it is water.
When you combine water with coffee you are creating a substance that contains water. It no longer is water. Its coffee. I'm not saying it doesn't provide some level of hydration. I'm just saying call it what it is.0 -
^ This. It's no wonder people get so confused about the simplicity of weight loss when even a concept as basic as hydration can become so twisted, convoluted and skewed by myths and pseudoscience.Some things just aren't this complicated.......0 -
Combining molecules isn't the same thing as adding some flavor to your water. Do you need high school chemistry again?
Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?
You mix 2 Hydrogen Molecules with 1 Oxygen molecule is it still Hydrogen? Just because something contains a majority of something else does not mean it is water.
When you combine water with coffee you are creating a substance that contains water. It no longer is water. Its coffee. I'm not saying it doesn't provide some level of hydration. I'm just saying call it what it is.
I still want to know how adding coffee, tea or Crystal Light to H2O causes the H2O to cease being H2O.
If you drink a glass of water and then eat a couple gummy bears, does that water no longer count as water? Why does it matter if you mix it in or eat it right before or after? The substance in the glass remains H2O.0 -
Combining molecules isn't the same thing as adding some flavor to your water. Do you need high school chemistry again?
Good luck getting an answer to that. I simply got accused of drinking paint when I asked.
For those of you who think that only "pure" water hydrates, what is your scientific explanation for insisting on this myth?
You mix 2 Hydrogen Molecules with 1 Oxygen molecule is it still Hydrogen? Just because something contains a majority of something else does not mean it is water.
When you combine water with coffee you are creating a substance that contains water. It no longer is water. Its coffee. I'm not saying it doesn't provide some level of hydration. I'm just saying call it what it is.
I still want to know how adding coffee, tea or Crystal Light to H2O causes the H2O to cease being H2O.
If you drink a glass of water and then eat a couple gummy bears, does that water no longer count as water? Why does it matter if you mix it in or eat it right before or after? The substance in the glass remains H2O.
I admire your tenacity. Quite frankly I've given up arguing this one.
For me it's pretty simple. Water is meant to hydrate. If I drink it and it hydrates me, I count it as 'water' in the water thingie. *shrug*0 -
Really its what you believe ,people say thing forvaritity of reason .people do what's easy .that don't make it right . Water. Is water in long run.I like carbonated flavored water .but I don't count it ,only 100 percent pure water I drink tea I drink coffee I drink energy drinks I don't count it ,0
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