Single Mom leaves no tip

DMZ_1

If she's that hard up for cash, she should not be going out for $138.35 meals.

Laces_0ut

I could never, ever , ever, get my head around this whole ' tipping ' culture you have there. why not pay restaurant staff a fair and reasonable salary so they aren't tip dependant for their income? that way, a tip would be a boost to their income and inspire higher levels of service, and not the ONLY means of their income.

In the UK, tipping is totally discretionally..you get great service, you give what you feel that service deserves...but the staff certainly do NOT make minimum wage, as is the case in North America...and the service levels are no where near CLOSE to the standards in north america.

The US tradition of leaving cute messages on the bill has also arrived in the UK, but the UK is NOT a service driven country and a waitress or a waiter in the UK dosn't understand that scribbling a little smiley face with 'thanks' next to their name on the bill is not their ticket to earn a tip...only great service should earn them a tip.

I feel bad for the OP for being denied an income...but if she was paid an equitable and fair salary to begin with, then she wouldn't have been denied her income.

I was out to dinner in NY and the waiter followed us out to the sidewalk when we left because he didn't like the tip we gave him. It was 15% of the meal. I was appalled and embarrassed at the same time.

Wow, I probably would of knocked him out, and took back the 15% I gave him, what nerve! Wow........

15% is a low tip. if i was the waiter i'd be curious as to what i had done wrong to warrant a low tip. and LOL at you saying you'd knock him out. you would do no such thing.

JosephVitte

I could never, ever , ever, get my head around this whole ' tipping ' culture you have there. why not pay restaurant staff a fair and reasonable salary so they aren't tip dependant for their income? that way, a tip would be a boost to their income and inspire higher levels of service, and not the ONLY means of their income.

In the UK, tipping is totally discretionally..you get great service, you give what you feel that service deserves...but the staff certainly do NOT make minimum wage, as is the case in North America...and the service levels are no where near CLOSE to the standards in north america.

The US tradition of leaving cute messages on the bill has also arrived in the UK, but the UK is NOT a service driven country and a waitress or a waiter in the UK dosn't understand that scribbling a little smiley face with 'thanks' next to their name on the bill is not their ticket to earn a tip...only great service should earn them a tip.

I feel bad for the OP for being denied an income...but if she was paid an equitable and fair salary to begin with, then she wouldn't have been denied her income.

I was out to dinner in NY and the waiter followed us out to the sidewalk when we left because he didn't like the tip we gave him. It was 15% of the meal. I was appalled and embarrassed at the same time.

The amount of tip I give is directly proportional to the service. I use 15% as a base and it goes up or down from there per the service I received. Once in New Orleans, I received such poor service (and we were the only ones at the restaurant at the time, it was right after lunch) I left a penny on the table. Now, the way I leave a penny is not just simply place a penny on the table, that could mean I forgot the coin while searching for bills. I place a full glass of water upside down on the table, over the penny. That way the waiter (yes, it was a guy) knows he pissed me off. It's a neat trick I learned. Easy to do but creates a mess when attempting to remove the glass of water with the insulting tip. I've only done it once. That's how mad I was with his service. Don't mess with me!

I thought my quarter took the top spot, you got me beat, lol!

CudyBug

The whole poor me single mom crap in this society is getting really old. Like others said she spent that much on food and then says oo cant tip I'm a single mom! BS! I know plenty of single mothers or have more income coming into their home then I do as a married stay at home mother. Some, between their income, child support and government assistance, bring home double what my husband brings home. Then the ones that don't get assistance still have more income then my family because they have two incomes coming in between their job and child support so no I do not feel bad, financially, for single mothers! Does putting on there "single mom sorry" suppose to make her look better? I think just leaving a 0 would have been better. Not to mention I would never go out and spend that kind of money. I wonder if she even had her kids with her when eating!

SueGremlin

I could never, ever , ever, get my head around this whole ' tipping ' culture you have there. why not pay restaurant staff a fair and reasonable salary so they aren't tip dependant for their income? that way, a tip would be a boost to their income and inspire higher levels of service, and not the ONLY means of their income.

In the UK, tipping is totally discretionally..you get great service, you give what you feel that service deserves...but the staff certainly do NOT make minimum wage, as is the case in North America...and the service levels are no where near CLOSE to the standards in north america.

The US tradition of leaving cute messages on the bill has also arrived in the UK, but the UK is NOT a service driven country and a waitress or a waiter in the UK dosn't understand that scribbling a little smiley face with 'thanks' next to their name on the bill is not their ticket to earn a tip...only great service should earn them a tip.

I feel bad for the OP for being denied an income...but if she was paid an equitable and fair salary to begin with, then she wouldn't have been denied her income.

I was out to dinner in NY and the waiter followed us out to the sidewalk when we left because he didn't like the tip we gave him. It was 15% of the meal. I was appalled and embarrassed at the same time.

Wow, I probably would of knocked him out, and took back the 15% I gave him, what nerve! Wow........

15% is a low tip. if i was the waiter i'd be curious as to what i had done wrong to warrant a low tip. and LOL at you saying you'd knock him out. you would do no such thing.

15% is most certainly not a low tip. Coming after us demanding more is beyond rude. If you support that kind of behavior, you have entitlement issues and are in for a very rude awakening.

oregonzoo

side note: Why do as a society feel obligated to tip only at non fast food restaurants? I've never worked a day of fast food in my life, but could possibly agrue they work harder than waiters and waitresses, just my opinion.

Because the company is paying its employees minimum wage. I worked at a Burger King during High School and parts of college and it was a lot of work.

Well technically that is NOT the patrons fault....

Lyssa62

in case nobody else has mentioned it..this is a hoax that has been altered several times for that note that says single mom to say a variety of things.

oregonzoo

I'm a single mother myself. And to be honest, I feel guilty leaving anything less than a 25% tip if the service was good. If I want to take my kids out to a $136 meal (how does one even do that) I will.. but I'll be sure I can leave a tip.



That said I'm getting older and cranky and I am much less likely to tip even 10% if the service is crappy.

pullipgirl

I always tip no matter if it is poor service or exceptional service.

AaronG190991

Tipping, not even once,

Dont want to go to America cause of this

SueGremlin

I always tip no matter if it is poor service or exceptional service.

Me too. 10% for crappy service 20% for good.

DMZ_1

BULL!!! A bill that large should have had tip added in...

A lot of restaurants that offer what I call mid priced fare (entrees from $7-20) would add a gratuity to a check for a larger party to prevent something like this from happening.

Laces_0ut

15% is most certainly not a low tip. Coming after us demanding more is beyond rude. If you support that kind of behavior, you have entitlement issues and are in for a very rude awakening.

where the heck do you live? 15% is definitely low.

jetscreaminagain

I love this so much but the concept of all good hard honest work being deserving of a livable wage is a revolutionary concept around here. Thank you for sharing how things *could* be.

I could never, ever , ever, get my head around this whole ' tipping ' culture you have there. why not pay restaurant staff a fair and reasonable salary so they aren't tip dependant for their income? that way, a tip would be a boost to their income and inspire higher levels of service, and not the ONLY means of their income.

In the UK, tipping is totally discretionally..you get great service, you give what you feel that service deserves...but the staff certainly do NOT make minimum wage, as is the case in North America...and the service levels are no where near CLOSE to the standards in north america.

The US tradition of leaving cute messages on the bill has also arrived in the UK, but the UK is NOT a service driven country and a waitress or a waiter in the UK dosn't understand that scribbling a little smiley face with 'thanks' next to their name on the bill is not their ticket to earn a tip...only great service should earn them a tip.

I feel bad for the OP for being denied an income...but if she was paid an equitable and fair salary to begin with, then she wouldn't have been denied her income.

SueGremlin

15% is most certainly not a low tip. Coming after us demanding more is beyond rude. If you support that kind of behavior, you have entitlement issues and are in for a very rude awakening.

where the heck do you live? 15% is definitely low.

I'd ask you the same question! I grew up in the NYC metro area and currently live in the midwest. On what planet is a 15% tip unacceptable? 15% is considered a standard tip. Everyone has their own idea of what they should tip, but in no way is 15% considered a crappy tip.

http://howmuchtotip.org/

Laces_0ut

Tipping, not even once,

Dont want to go to America cause of this

really? something like that would hold you back?

Laces_0ut

15% is most certainly not a low tip. Coming after us demanding more is beyond rude. If you support that kind of behavior, you have entitlement issues and are in for a very rude awakening.

where the heck do you live? 15% is definitely low.

I'd ask you the same question! I grew up in the NYC metro area and currently live in the midwest. On what planet is a 15% tip unacceptable? 15% is considered a standard tip. Everyone has their own idea of what they should tip, but in no way is 15% considered a crappy tip.

http://howmuchtotip.org/

15% was standard 20 years ago. 20% is the standard today. maybe the midwest is 20 years behind the rest of us?

Amy911Gray

I could never, ever , ever, get my head around this whole ' tipping ' culture you have there. why not pay restaurant staff a fair and reasonable salary so they aren't tip dependant for their income? that way, a tip would be a boost to their income and inspire higher levels of service, and not the ONLY means of their income.

This! and the bad thing is when the wait staff is rude, inattentive, and down right rude---and still they expect a tip of 30%

delilah47

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out. Wait-staff rely on tips for the majority of their income. Shame on the single mom!

SueGremlin

15% is most certainly not a low tip. Coming after us demanding more is beyond rude. If you support that kind of behavior, you have entitlement issues and are in for a very rude awakening.

where the heck do you live? 15% is definitely low.

I'd ask you the same question! I grew up in the NYC metro area and currently live in the midwest. On what planet is a 15% tip unacceptable? 15% is considered a standard tip. Everyone has their own idea of what they should tip, but in no way is 15% considered a crappy tip.

http://howmuchtotip.org/

15% was standard 20 years ago. 20% is the standard today. maybe the midwest is 20 years behind the rest of us?

You are incredibly rude to imply that I am old and out of touch. That is a current website. by the way.
No tip for you.

fit_librarian

When I was working as a waitress, I once had a family come in and they spent about $70. They left $.15 on the table for tip. The service wasn't bad at all (in fact they were the only ones in the restaurant at the time). I think lots of people don't realize that waiters essentially live off tips and not the $2.00 hourly wage.

LilacDreamer

I always tip no matter if it is poor service or exceptional service.

why the hell would you tip for poor service? a tip expresses your gratitude, why would you have gratitude for poor service? Tipping for poor service is just condoning their bad behavior! Tips are for excellent or exceptional service.

AaronG190991

Tipping, not even once,

Dont want to go to America cause of this

really? something like that would hold you back?

Its' stupid, even if i ran a $1000 bill up i still wouldn't tip, they're getting paid to do their job, its not like they're doing it for free

pullipgirl

I always tip no matter if it is poor service or exceptional service.

why the hell would you tip for poor service? a tip expresses your gratitude, why would you have gratitude for poor service? Tipping for poor service is just condoning their bad behavior! Tips are for excellent or exceptional service.

Well I have never experienced "poor" service. All the waiter has to do is bring out your food and drink and refill on drinks. If they are rude to me or are drunk or something like that I would speak to the manager about it, and request a new waiter, but I would still leave a tip. A lot of restaurants I go to they split the tips amongst each other.

DMZ_1

In Oregon everyone makes at least minimum wage and that's over $8.00 an hour. Which states are waitstaff only making $1 an hour?

In Texas, waitstaff is paid like $2.14 an hour. I saw someone in this thread mention Massachusetts was at $2.63.

coastie_wife07

My husband always tip, sometimes the correct amount and sometimes a little less, but never nothing.

I do know that in same places in N.Y. if you don't tip they will come looking for you to pay (police involved and all)

Cyndi1

After spending $138 on a meal. Let me have $138 dollars! But seriously wouldn't the waiter be fired for sharing this online?


wow rude - she can spend 138.00 on a meal...she must be bringing in some nice coin for being a single mom... Being a single mom doesnt give you a right to use as an excuse... she could have bought a lot of groceries for 138.00 if times were bad that she couldnt afford a tip....

Laces_0ut

Tipping, not even once,

Dont want to go to America cause of this

really? something like that would hold you back?

Its' stupid, even if i ran a $1000 bill up i still wouldn't tip, they're getting paid to do their job, its not like they're doing it for free

i understand you dont like the system but that shouldnt be a reason to not travel to a country.

Laces_0ut

You are incredibly rude to imply that I am old and out of touch. That is a current website. by the way.
No tip for you.

you are rude because you tip too low. and no need to tip me i am not a server but i make sure to treat those that wait on me with respect by tipping 20% and more if they go above and beyond. you probably tip on the the before tax amount and on the discounted rate after a coupon as well. am i right?

Screw you, *kitten*.

its obvious you cant discuss this without getting upset so ill just say good day.

ironanimal

Tipping, not even once,

Dont want to go to America cause of this

really? something like that would hold you back?

Its' stupid, even if i ran a $1000 bill up i still wouldn't tip, they're getting paid to do their job, its not like they're doing it for free

The point is these staff make a pittance and rely on tips to live. It's very backwards to me, coming from Europe where it's entirely discretionary. If something costs £45 I'll probably leave £50 but thats about as involved as it is.