Why do people do it????

Fozzi43

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

IronSmasher

I got a rude awakening when I found used needles in my gym. The thought of people taking steroids hadn't even crossed my mind.
Started looking at people in the gym in a whole new light, and it's explained a lot of weird shapes and voices.

SashThompson

The simple answer is: They think they've found the magic weight loss pill...

Fozzi43

I think the thing that annoys me is that she's been coming to me for around 3 months, she's been following a plan I gave her, I nice and steady 1 pound a week weight loss ( she has 24 lbs to lose) and obviously isn't coming off fast enough for her. She started taking pills 2 weeks ago and lost 3 pound each week.
Told her its a bad idea..will she stop? I doubt it.

IronSmasher

I know, but there's not a lot you can do, and they've probably been talking to 'expert' friends.

Fozzi43

I know, but there's not a lot you can do, and they've probably been talking to 'expert' friends.

I know, just frustrating as I can give her all the advice she needs.

TavistockToad

I got a rude awakening when I found used needles in my gym. The thought of people taking steroids hadn't even crossed my mind.
Started looking at people in the gym in a whole new light, and it's explained a lot of weird shapes and voices.

steroids are a big problem across the uk at the moment, especially teenagers taking them.

IronSmasher

Tell me about it. Diet and exercise is different, in that everyone appears to be an expert. I'd like to see someone pitch up and tell a plumber, electrician or plasterer their job.

Fozzi43

There's so much on the Internet these days, saying how bad these things are?
People obviously don't read the downsides of taking these drugs.

Crazy!!

taunto

desperation. It is that simple. Desperation makes people lose sense and any ray of hope, they just cling to it, no matter what the cost

BamsieEkhaya

hmm I came close to taking them, at one point my aunt had 5different diet pills, but I'm a little OCD when it comes to medication so lots of googling and reading side effects put me off them, never ever contemplating them.
I don't think people really truly understand how bad they can be, too many people would rather have a quick-fix

Fozzi43

I think some of it could be that her stick thin sister comes training with her,she runs 8 miles 5days a week...

I do think though that if she carries on taking them and gets all the awful side effects and it hampers her training with me..I'll have to stop training her. I'm a first aider but I'm not happy about having to first aid someone who takes illegal substances.

Am I wrong in doing that?
I honestly don't know. But this is bothering me big time.

lauraatkinson85

A couple of years ago I bought some weight loss pills over the internet - within days I was shaking, my heart was pumping like it was going to explode and I was paranoid about everything. I realised how stupid I was to risk my life to lose weight a bit quicker. I'm pretty sure that they had something along the lines of speed in them.

I have never considered taking drugs in the sense of cocaine, pills etc, but I was quite happy to put some completely unknown substance into my body.

Glad I realised that it was stupid!

IronSmasher

I think some of it could be that her stick thin sister comes training with her,she runs 8 miles 5days a week...

I do think though that if she carries on taking them and gets all the awful side effects and it hampers her training with me..I'll have to stop training her. I'm a first aider but I'm not happy about having to first aid someone who takes illegal substances.

Am I wrong in doing that?
I honestly don't know. But this is bothering me big time.

A conscientious professional recognises when something is outside of their expertise, and you can't predict what effect an uncontrolled substance is going to have. I'd certainly wouldn't think it wrong.

Fozzi43

I think some of it could be that her stick thin sister comes training with her,she runs 8 miles 5days a week...

I do think though that if she carries on taking them and gets all the awful side effects and it hampers her training with me..I'll have to stop training her. I'm a first aider but I'm not happy about having to first aid someone who takes illegal substances.

Am I wrong in doing that?
I honestly don't know. But this is bothering me big time.

A conscientious professional recognises when something is outside of their expertise, and you can't predict what effect an uncontrolled substance is going to have. I'd certainly wouldn't think it wrong.

Thank you for that..just needed to know I wasn't gonna be in the wrong.

And I WILL stop training her if she carries on but I'm hoping I scared her enough into not taking them.

NT77

I think some of it could be that her stick thin sister comes training with her,she runs 8 miles 5days a week...

I do think though that if she carries on taking them and gets all the awful side effects and it hampers her training with me..I'll have to stop training her. I'm a first aider but I'm not happy about having to first aid someone who takes illegal substances.

Am I wrong in doing that?
I honestly don't know. But this is bothering me big time.

I think you are totally right with what you are saying. People want the magic answer to weightloss when actually she is already working on it by training with someone (you!) so why bother with the pills, it's so dangerous and the companies that sell them are just making money from people's desperation if you ask me!

Wonderob

I got a rude awakening when I found used needles in my gym. The thought of people taking steroids hadn't even crossed my mind.
Started looking at people in the gym in a whole new light, and it's explained a lot of weird shapes and voices.

Yep, a notice in our gym has just been put up saying that needles were found in the changing room. Obviously no names were mentioned but in all honesty it isn't difficult to come up with a suspect or two. I'm pretty sure the gym staff looked at me bench press and thought "Yeah he's in the clear!"

mogletdeluxe

Sad. But I guess people perceive it as a quick fix.

I suspect it's the same mindset people have when they ask "how did you do it?" and look disappointed when you say "hard work".

fraser112

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

They work just like steroids are are on the whole safe when used correctly. Why worry if someone wants to use a drug poorly and die then nature is doing her job.

EvgeniZyntx

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

They work just like steroids are are on the whole safe when used correctly. Why worry if someone wants to use a drug poorly and die then nature is doing her job.

No, I'm in pharma and can tell you that current weight loss pills a) Do NOT work just like steroids (whatever that means) - some work, some are snake oil b) None, NONE are safe to a high degree - every single weight loss medication has some associated and important risk even when used correctly. Some of them, even when apparently safe have led to disaster -

There are three basic classes of drugs: appetite suppression. metabolism "modifiers" and absorption blockers. Each work differently and have different risks. Some are actually reasonable treatments if you do not mind the side effects.

But in general I would not recommend any of them. Ever.

Begin reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenfluramine/phentermine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-obesity_medication

Fozzi43

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

They work just like steroids are are on the whole safe when used correctly. Why worry if someone wants to use a drug poorly and die then nature is doing her job.

I worry because if I'm training her and she has a heart attack or something it's on my patch and I would feel kind of responsible.

How can you say they are safe? It's a BANNED product she's using. It was banned for a reason..that a stupid thing to say.
Just saying.

Fozzi43

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

They work just like steroids are are on the whole safe when used correctly. Why worry if someone wants to use a drug poorly and die then nature is doing her job.

No, I'm in pharma and can tell you that current weight loss pills a) Do NOT work just like steroids (whatever that means) - some work, some are snake oil b) None, NONE are safe to a high degree - every single weight loss medication has some associated and important risk even when used correctly. Some of them, even when apparently safe have led to disaster -

There are three basic classes of drugs: appetite suppression. metabolism "modifiers" and absorption blockers. Each work differently and have different risks. Some are actually reasonable treatments if you do not mind the side effects.

But in general I would not recommend any of them. Ever.

Begin reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenfluramine/phentermine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-obesity_medication

Thanks for putting that up, it will help, just think nothing like that is safe. :flowerforyou:

Wonderob

One of my clients came in for a workout today and told me that she was so pleased with herself...she'd managed to get hold of some banned ( in the UK) weightloss pills.

I told her in no uncertain terms that they will just make her poorly, she's already got a racing heart symptom.
She's normally quite sensible.

Why do people do it? So dangerous and there's nothing wrong with losing weight the old fashioned way.

on the whole safe when used correctly.

Red flag right here!

indygal76

They are looking for a quick fix. They don't want to put in the time & effort it takes to lose weight. Losing weight takes a lot of dedication and hardwork. It's not about losing weight, it's about makng a lifetime change. They will only end up with weight loss that will slowly turn back to weight gain once they quit taking their "magic pills".

ironanimal

Ephedra?

Generally diet pills affect your heart rate or blood pressure, so mixing that with a pre-existing heart condition isn't smart.

Fozzi43

I can't remember what she said it was called..but the fact she said it was banned ( not sure how she got it ) set alarm bells ringing.

zombilishious

Women in particular want instant gratification. When we want something, we want it NOW! Unfortunately, we can't just do that with healthy weight loss, hence the popularity of bariatric surgery (which is very dangerous). I could go on about why bariatric surgery is not a good choice, but we're talking about pills. Same concept. She doesn't want to wait 6 months to be at her goal weight. Exercise is hard work. Eating right is hard work. But surely these little pills are safe, or they wouldn't make them and sell them. Oh, the government banned them here? Well, they're just being too controlling because other countries allow them. She has a friend who lost 3lbs a week on them. She feels fine, just a little jittery, and she isn't hungry while eating only 400 calories a day. Nothing could possibly happen in the short term.

Unfortunately, when we set our minds to something, we'll grasp onto whatever we can to justify our decision, no matter how flawed our reasoning. But keep trying to change her mind.

okidoki7

i would most definitely stop training her if she carries on with the pills..

some people want quick fixes with everything in life and sometimes that means taking illegal substances to either get bigger or get smaller..although we'd all like to shed the weight over night, i do believe the (slow) process teaches us the things we need in order to maintain the weight....

kaybeau

Hi its unlikley your customer will take these for long, I have had many friends take weight loss pills and six weeks later none of them continued expense side effects and poor concentration put the kibosh on that particular fad... and guess what not one of them lost weight real term...

Roni_M

More disturbing is finding them in your 14 year olds purse! And she is thin and fit!! I made her flush them (painful for her considering she had saved up her baby-sitting money for them) and then we googled deaths related to taking them. She got a real eye opener. She's 19 now and never went down that path again.

bufger

Its a shame those people will never get a true feeling of accomplishment. In everything I do i try and do it without assistance so i know my strength of mind is good.

Quit smoking without any help or patches
Lose weight the old fashioned way
Gain strength the old fashioned way

Dont they realise they just cheat themselves and when the next big life challenge comes along they wont have ever proven to themselves they have the strength and determination to do it without help?