No more soda?
Chewster001
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A doc from MGH, aka Man's Greatest Hospital, aka Massachusetts General Hospital just announced on TV that a study showed that as few as 2 cans of soda per week increases you risk of pancreatic cancer by 87%.
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
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I cut out diet coke almost two weeks ago and have never felt better. Stopped drinking crystal light too b/c of the aspartame. Just straight water for me after my 2 cups of coffee in the am. LOL0
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A doc from MGH, aka Man's Greatest Hospital, aka Massachusetts General Hospital just announced on TV that a study showed that as few as 2 cans of soda per week increases you risk of pancreatic cancer by 87%.
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
I'd reserve judgment until some solid research is released.0 -
A doc from MGH, aka Man's Greatest Hospital, aka Massachusetts General Hospital just announced on TV that a study showed that as few as 2 cans of soda per week increases you risk of pancreatic cancer by 87%.
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
I'd reserve judgment until some solid research is released.
This.0 -
A doc from MGH, aka Man's Greatest Hospital, aka Massachusetts General Hospital just announced on TV that a study showed that as few as 2 cans of soda per week increases you risk of pancreatic cancer by 87%.
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
I'd reserve judgment until some solid research is released.
This.
How do you guys define "solid research"? It was a small study but it did pass the test of statistical significance. MDs do have to pass epidemiology in medical school. Most doctors won't go on national television and report study results that aren't based on solid research. They do have licenses to protect. But whatever - you want to drink your soda, go ahead. I'm basically a libertarian at heart. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em (and the smoke doesn't go up into my air vents and choke me out.)0 -
I cut Soda completely out of my diet a year and a half ago. I do not miss it, and after about 2 weeks of no soda in my system, I felt so much better.
When I do crave something carbonated, I will have some club soda with Lemon and cucumber. Or I'll add some crystal light to it.0 -
well for one - where is the study?0
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I stopped drinking soda around two and a half years ago0
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A doc from MGH, aka Man's Greatest Hospital, aka Massachusetts General Hospital just announced on TV that a study showed that as few as 2 cans of soda per week increases you risk of pancreatic cancer by 87%.
Yet another reason to cut soda out of the diet.
*pours self a cup of unsweetened almond milk*
I'd reserve judgment until some solid research is released.
This.
How do you guys define "solid research"? It was a small study but it did pass the test of statistical significance. MDs do have to pass epidemiology in medical school. Most doctors won't go on national television and report study results that aren't based on solid research. They do have licenses to protect. But whatever - you want to drink your soda, go ahead. I'm basically a libertarian at heart. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em (and the smoke doesn't go up into my air vents and choke me out.)
do you have a link for said study
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I stopped drinking soda a year ago. I will have a sparkling water (no sugar added) every now and then. I don't miss it at all.0
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Everything in this world is said to cause some sort of risk to get something one way or another....It's pretty much pick your "posion".0
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I gave up diet Coke because I craved more junk foods when I had it...I loved it, and miss it. I really feel so much better that I have changed my diet.0
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I stopped drinking soda (with an exceptio of maybe 1-2 servings per year) 23 years ago. I will always remember the biology teacher in high school that one day came in to class, put a 1 Liter bottle of coke on the desk and then quietly proceeded to pile up sugar cubes next to the bottle. :frown: After a few minutes and a big pile of sugar cubes he looked up and asked us if we would drink a liter of water with all the sugar dissolved in it. Just the thought made me gag and pretty much everybody agreed that it was gross. He then said that the sugar he had piled up was the equivalent of the sugar in the coke........Cured me from drinking much soda!!!! :noway:
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I quit my 6-can a day Diet Coke habit in March. Seriously the worst addiction I've ever had and I've been addicted to some stuff that could be on a day time talk show. Feel tons better! I feel like it was making me "snacky" for some reason and low energy. No studies, just feelin better.
I did recently find Crystal Light Pure, made with Stevia, which I use sparingly for a treat.0 -
My issue with most studies like this is the causal link...how can they isolate diet soda as the culprit...0
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Everytime I decide to get back into exercising, one of the things I cut off is soda, and within the next two weeks since fully cutting it out, I lose at least 5 pounds (and this sorta has been proven from experience since I keep getting on and off the wagon. Thank god, i've got some sense knocked into me now, and this is be the last time, and it will be permanent =D).
HOWEVER, I am not into demonizing any food. One of the reasons I may have dropped those pounds is because, the thing about sodas for me is that I don't just have 1. I have a couple at the very least. Thus going over my calories = weight gain.
And as for cancer, EVERYTHING causes cancer. So really, just enjoy yourselves. Eat your favorite foods in moderation, and again, this is your life, you can keep restricting all sorts of things and feel deprived, OR take control and still BE ABLE to enjoy what you love.
There is my 2 cents.0 -
I have some beachfront property for you.0
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My issue with most studies like this is the causal link...how can they isolate diet soda as the culprit...
Actually, they didn't isolate diet soda. It was just full strength soda, and they think it has to do with the relationship between sugar and the pancreas.0 -
*sips my cherry Coke Zero*
Now, what is it that you were saying?0 -
*sips my cherry Coke Zero*
Now, what is it that you were saying?
*whispers about her undying love for diet cherry vanilla Dr. Pepper*0 -
Wow that makes me want to start kickboxing.0
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My issue with most studies like this is the causal link...how can they isolate diet soda as the culprit...
The study found the association with regular sweetened sodas, not diet. The study sample was quite small and the cases associated with intake of "2 or more sodas per week" was extremely small. Although they were able to report a "statistically significant association", they in no way proved causation with this limited observational study.
""Susan Mayne, PhD, associate director of the Yale Cancer Center and professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health, called the study results ''intriguing" in a statement but cautioned that the study finding was based on a relatively small number of cases and does not prove cause and effect. She is an editorial board member of the journal. The study was funded by the National Cancer Institute.""0 -
I read this drinking my diet coke... how ironic :drinker: :bigsmile:0
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My issue with most studies like this is the causal link...how can they isolate diet soda as the culprit...
The study found the association with regular sweetened sodas, not diet. The study sample was quite small and the cases associated with intake of "2 or more sodas per week" was extremely small. Although they were able to report a "statistically significant association", they in no way proved causation with this limited observational study.
""Susan Mayne, PhD, associate director of the Yale Cancer Center and professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health, called the study results ''intriguing" in a statement but cautioned that the study finding was based on a relatively small number of cases and does not prove cause and effect. She is an editorial board member of the journal. The study was funded by the National Cancer Institute.""
Yup. This. It's not proven causal. It's just a little added information. There are hundred year old Cubans who claim they owe their long lives to rum, cigars, and a healthy sex life. Take all this information and do with it what you will.0 -
Utter crap. So they drank two cans of pop. Big deal. How do they define that it was the pop and not any other carb in their diet exactly?
Statistical significance in science can me 1 in 100. Look up some statin blockers - they claim 33% less heart attacks per year... when in fact 2 in 3 people die from heart attacks instead of 3 when the drug is used.
None story for a research institute or college or similar looking for funding.0 -
Thanks! So it's pretty limited then...and my guess is sugar of other sorts could also be linked? Say if I ate skittles twice a week...not that I do...0
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Great, now that you've googled terms associated with it, can you go to a peer reviewed research source like pubmed and post links to the actual research?
Example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2694313/
The above does NOT support your conclusion.
The recent study that does support it appears to rely on a correlation that is based on self reported data.
In my personal opinion, I'd discard the notion that soda causes pancreatic cancer. I would buy into the hypothesis that being obese could contribute to various cancers and as such, I'd limit my soda consumption due to the calories.0 -
Perhaps I'm reading into your post, but I'm hearing a nasty tone. Your post is a good study. I wouldn't "discard the notion" based on it, though. Let's not forget about population genetics. Each study was done in one geographic area and even genetics of the population could play a role in the differing results.
Great, now that you've googled terms associated with it, can you go to a peer reviewed research source like pubmed and post links to the actual research?
Example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2694313/
The above does NOT support your conclusion.
The recent study that does support it appears to rely on a correlation that is based on self reported data.
In my personal opinion, I'd discard the notion that soda causes pancreatic cancer. I would buy into the hypothesis that being obese could contribute to various cancers and as such, I'd limit my soda consumption due to the calories.
Also, just because I don't feel like finding an article online for someone else who has as many keys on their keyboard as I do doesn't mean the article's bad. It also doesn't mean that I'm dedicated to its conclusions. I just thought it provided yet another good reason to cut back on soda.0 -
I cut Soda completely out of my diet a year and a half ago. I do not miss it, and after about 2 weeks of no soda in my system, I felt so much better.
When I do crave something carbonated, I will have some club soda with Lemon and cucumber. Or I'll add some crystal light to it.
Same here, don't really miss it either. Water, tea and some juice once in a while suits me just fine!0 -
MDs only present facts as THEY interpret them. Give 10 doctors the same facts from one study, and you will probably get 10 different 'recommendations'.
Scientists present facts from their research.
So lets say a research study says 4 out of 10 will get cancer from chewing bubblegum (totally imaginary study). One doctor would say 'that is a low risk', and another doctor could say, 'that is a moderate risk', and another would say, "that is a moderately low risk'. It is all based on *how* they interpret the facts.
Facts are facts, interpretations are basically opinions.
I like facts-I'm a nerd.0
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