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I see 2 future hair dressers.
Hours of entertainment right here.
I bought that for my daughters. It is sitting in my basement. A Wii or an XBox will get more use.0 -
My daughter loves the play kitchen at grandmas house, and at preschool, but she never plays with the one at home. She just pulls everything out onto the floor and walks away. It's really only fun when they have someone to play kitchen with all the time. It takes up a lot of space in her room and, like I said, all the food and dishes are constantly spread throughout the house and yard.
So, on that note... a GREAT gift for a 3 year old is a Leapster Explorer or a LeapPad. Those thing are awesome! They teach reading, writing, math, science, art, etc. We got one for my daughte for Christmas last year when she was 3. It has kept her so entertained and now that she is in school she likes to correlate what she is learning in class with games that practice similar skills on her Leapster. There is a really fun food prep and cooking game that teaches basic math that you can get for it, too!0 -
Come on, guys, everyone knows that only WOMEN belong in the kitchen!!! Girls should be taught young to make little boys sandwiches and stay in the kitchen with pretend babies.
Why should men ever need to practice cooking or caring for babies? Oh wait, this isn't the 1950's?
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My son had a kitchen when he was about 3 to 4 years old it was brown. He used to watch cooking shows with me with male chefs ex. Emeril Lagasse & Alton Brown.... We got him metal pots & pans, fake food and a chef's hat. He loved it!
He's 10 now and is into Halo4, Black Ops II and plays hockey. Kids need to be kids while they can.0 -
A kitchen takes up a huge part of the christmas budget (at least in my family) and maybe your hubs is concerned that it won't get enough play to justify all the toys you would not be able to get... You have to admit that fast cars are more exciting than coffee pots!
Maybe you could compromise by skipping it as a christmas gift, and buying a used one at a garage sale or consignment store to give him in the spring.
A great gift that my son loved from 3-6 is the Fisher-Price Imaginext sets. They cost a little less than a kitchen and still incorporate the imaginative play that you want to foster.0 -
My kids are almost grown now, but all I remember was the utter embarrassment of toys they had. TOYS to the ceiling: unloved and unplayed with after a day. I married into a family whose major 'love language' was gifts, and they bought randomly, and often, just to make sure there were plenty of boxes to unwrap at special occasions.
We had a hunk of plastic that was a play-kitchen. It took up half a room. If I had it to do over again, I would buy safe, high quality Montessori tools and put them to work cutting up their own snacks. Get your son a nice chef-apron, a special knife, and real food. Your time in supervising this activity will be rewarded many times over by the time he's 21.
I hate toys for toys sake. Resources are limited. Today's newfangled toy is a hunk of plastic at the junk yard when you throw it out in days, months, maybe years. It's still sitting there 500 years from now. Yes, we want to shower our kids with love. Yes, we want them to have possessions which they love. But thoughtfully selecting a gift or two of special significance is the way to go. Discuss this with your husband, and collaborate on specific ideas tailored to your son's unique interests. This may call you to set aside your own blasts from the past, but I urge you to try--for your son, yourselves, and the planet.
Edit: Examples of pre-school kitchen tools: http://www.forsmallhands.com/kitchen/preparing-food0 -
I think it shouldn't matter and agree with you it is not just for girls, but you could get the barbque one, it is really cute. Maybe it would make your husband not protest so much.
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Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.
Why respect and inherently unhealthy and un-respectable position? Simply because she married him?
That father sounds like a douche canoe to me.0 -
Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.
Why respect and inherently unhealthy and un-respectable position? Simply because she married him?
That father sounds like a douche canoe to me.
Why marry someone you don't respect?
Or are you saying that you should only treat them with respect when they agree with you?0 -
Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.
Why respect and inherently unhealthy and un-respectable position? Simply because she married him?
That father sounds like a douche canoe to me.
Because she chose him to be her life partner. She doesn't get to dismiss his thoughts and ideas just because she doesn't agree with them.
She agreed to take his thoughts and ideas into account when she married him. That also means she's going to have to learn to compromise, as will he.0 -
Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.
Why respect and inherently unhealthy and un-respectable position? Simply because she married him?
That father sounds like a douche canoe to me.
Why marry someone you don't respect?
Or are you saying that you should only treat them with respect when they agree with you?
If you're going to try to twist my meaning, you might try to be a bit more subtle.
Or if you really got any of that out of what I wrote, then derr...0 -
We have a play kitchen outside that ALL my kids play with (boy & girls). They like to make "mud" pie in it.
Of course I am teaching my son how to cook right now so I don't see a problem with it. He also plays Barbies with our youngest because he loves her so much. He's 10 btw.0 -
Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.
Why respect and inherently unhealthy and un-respectable position? Simply because she married him?
That father sounds like a douche canoe to me.
Because she chose him to be her life partner. She doesn't get to dismiss his thoughts and ideas just because she doesn't agree with them.
She agreed to take his thoughts and ideas into account when she married him. That also means she's going to have to learn to compromise, as will he.
Seems to me like she is taking them into consideration. This thread is proof of that.
As to whether that means she has to fold to his will, well, I guess that's one view point.0 -
Seems to me like she is taking them into consideration. This thread is proof of that.
As to whether that means she has to fold to his will, well, I guess that's one view point.
She doesn't get to say: I don't like your opinion so I'm just going to do what I want with OUR child.
Just because she took his ideas into consideration doesn't mean she gets to dismiss him after she decides his opinion is invalid.
Her marriage is not the MFP forums. She doesn't get to post a clever picture and say: Here is Matt Smith with an otter on his shoulder, your opinion is invalid.
That's not how marriage should or does work.
I'm not saying she fold to HIS will. I'm saying they need to choose a gift they BOTH agree on.0 -
happy kids > happy spouses
Said by someone who is probably divorced. Talk to your husband about it and how much your son wants it. If he's adamant about it, then get your son something else. Your son is 3, so I think he'll survive without a kitchen set at home.
No, it's said by someone who has children. Happy ones. It's a damn toy...if the kid wants it then let him have the thing. Since when does buying a toy for a kid lead to divorce?
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Agreed. If buying a toy is going to lead to divorce, then you have other issues to work on.
And regarding the toy kitchen - since when did that become a girl toy? Even back in the 80's my little brother had a toy kitchen. All the little boys at preschool played with it. Marketing for those products shows boys & girls. I always figured a toy kitchen was a gender-less toy. But even if it is a "girls toy" who the eff cares?
My daughter is 4, wears Spiderman tennis shoes, has super hero tshirts and her last birthday party was Super Mario Bros. themed. I'm glad I'm not married to some of the people posting on here, because it sounds like I'd have to be fighting for the right for my daughter to be interested in whatever she wanted to - some of these people sound like they would rather put her in a pink, glittery box filled with Barbies and baby dolls.
Thankfully, my husband has some freaking common sense and realizes that toys are just toys and kids should be able to play whatever they want.0 -
Seems to me like she is taking them into consideration. This thread is proof of that.
As to whether that means she has to fold to his will, well, I guess that's one view point.
She doesn't get to say: I don't like your opinion so I'm just going to do what I want with OUR child.
Just because she took his ideas into consideration doesn't mean she gets to dismiss him after she decides his opinion is invalid.
Her marriage is not the MFP forums. She doesn't get to post a clever picture and say: Here is Matt Smith with an otter on his shoulder, your opinion is invalid.
That's not how marriage should or does work.
I'm not saying she fold to HIS will. I'm saying they need to choose a gift they BOTH agree on.
Interesting. By stating that the kid cannot have the kitchen set, the male appears to be doing all of the things which you say are apparently taboo in a marriage.
After all, if her opinion is that the kid should get the set, and he point blank will not allow it, then he's acting in exactly the dismissive manner which you seem to feel is wrong.
And a compromise in choosing a toy they both agree on is actually him entirely getting his way.0 -
I have two boys, we had a kitchen set and they loved it! We got it because my husband said it would keep them out of the kitchen at a young age and he was right. My sons have played with things that others would consider girls toys. It's funny how girls can play with boy toys and they don't get shamed but the other way around then it becomes shameful. As long as a kid is using their imagination I really could care less what they play with.0
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And it's important to remember that his stance is completely asinine.0
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Interesting. By stating that the kid cannot have the kitchen set, the male appears to be doing all of the things which you say are apparently taboo in a marriage.
After all, if her opinion is that the kid should get the set, and he point blank will not allow it, then he's acting in exactly the dismissive manner which you seem to feel is wrong.
And a compromise in choosing a toy they both agree on is actually him entirely getting his way.
Yes and behaving in the exact same immature way is going to solve all their problems isn't it?
If his behavior is wrong, hers would be as well if she turned around and bought the set without even asking. Two wrongs do not equal a right.
She is the only one responsible for how she reacts to him. Even if he's wrong, she cannot blame him if she turns around and is equally wrong.
The best solution is for her to take the mature approach and sort it out with him like two grown adults who can figure out a compromise. Not two spoiled children fighting to get what they want.0 -
Interesting. By stating that the kid cannot have the kitchen set, the male appears to be doing all of the things which you say are apparently taboo in a marriage.
After all, if her opinion is that the kid should get the set, and he point blank will not allow it, then he's acting in exactly the dismissive manner which you seem to feel is wrong.
And a compromise in choosing a toy they both agree on is actually him entirely getting his way.
Yes and behaving in the exact same immature way is going to solve all their problems isn't it?
If his behavior is wrong, hers would be as well if she turned around and bought the set without even asking. Two wrongs do not equal a right.
She is the only one responsible for how she reacts to him. Even if he's wrong, she cannot blame him if she turns around and is equally wrong.
The best solution is for her to take the mature approach and sort it out with him like two grown adults who can figure out a compromise. Not two spoiled children fighting to get what they want.
I think you are making many assumptions about how she's going to react, what she's going to do, or how much sway my opinion of his stupid, apparently misogynistic opinion is worth to their marriage.
How she deals with it is her business, and I'm not speaking for her. And hopefully, neither are you.0 -
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it's a freaking 'Chef's Workstation', my gawd. You don't have to call it a 'kitchen' (since some people are stereotyping 'kitchens' as being for 'girls') Look at the Food Network, how many male chefs are there compared to female chefs on there?
I had Tonka trucks when I was a kid, and I had baby dolls. Well I found babies to be creepy, so I played with the trucks, Legos and stuffed animals. The day my father bought me a Barbie doll, you would have though my mother was going to start WWIII, I was 10, and I wanted a 'more grown-up toy'. Well, I wasn't allowed any more Barbie dolls, so I settled for My Little Pony (the original). Now there are groups of ADULT MALES that get together to play with MLP.
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Good grief. My comment was directed at his statement that happy kids is better than happy spouse. With that attitude, the marriage could be headed for trouble. Spouses need to work together when making decisions regarding the kids. Children will not always be happy. Children grow up and move out. You should be with your spouse for the rest of your life.Agreed. If buying a toy is going to lead to divorce, then you have other issues to work on.
I have no issue with boys having toy kitchens. I think parents need to decide together what is appropriate for their children. I find the grill a good compromise. That is, if the little tyke will even want it.0 -
She can show him respect and still get the kid the present he wants. There are lots of ways to show respect, but that doesn't mean you have to support everything your spouse says, does, or thinks. An even better lesson would be to illustrate how to communicate in a healthy way about the things on which you disagree, instead of just going along with something that you think is wrong or stupid.Showing respect for your spouse is a far healthier (and longer lasting) lesson than than any toy.0 -
I didn't read through all of the posts, but I definitely don't consider a kitchen set to be girly at all. Our neighbors have one and my son always plays on it with their girls and they have the best time! Think about it. If you let him play on a kitchen set now, someday he'll probably make a great husband who actually cooks with or for his wife.0
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we have one in the play room at our church....the boys and girls both loveeee playing with it....and i babysit for children...i have one boy whose 4 ..but when he was three he loved make up, dresses, high heals, dolls...(his dad didnt!) ..he'd take them from his sister...his mom didnt care as long as he was having fun ...he's outgrown it now but sometimes he'll still play with a doll....the 11 year old boy down the street played with dolls too when younger...didnt affect him0
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I understand that the interest levels are going to be gendered. However, this is learned. Gender coding begins as early as in the womb. As soon as someone is deemed a boy or girl they are coded with gendered colours, clothes, activities, toys etc. Your son has been taught that toys are gendered and only some are appropriate for a boy. And this is continually reinforced by what you give him.
I would love if children were raised learning that colours, clothes, activities, toys, etc are gender neutral. Of course, society (school, friends, etc) is still going to gender things; however, he is 3 and you and your husband are the biggest influences on shaping his perspective right now.
This is worth repeating. Why do intelligent responses always drown in the idiocy?
The sexism in this post is heartbreaking but unfortunately not surprising.0 -
If you're looking to get a kitchen for him (that's what my son and daughter are getting as their big gift for Christmas) there are a few on sale Black Friday! I think the one is only like $50? One is at Walmart (I think) the other is at Walgreens. Might be worth looking into so that you could both get him what you want. ((ads can be seen on blackfriday.com )) 0
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I think you are making many assumptions about how she's going to react, what she's going to do, or how much sway my opinion of his stupid, apparently misogynistic opinion is worth to their marriage.
How she deals with it is her business, and I'm not speaking for her. And hopefully, neither are you.
I am challenging not her actions but the common theme of comments that seem to suggest she should disrespect her relationship and act even though her husband has clearly stated this is not something he wants.
I'm not saying he's right. But I'm saying it wouldn't be right for her to go behind his back and buy the kitchen set either. That's just my opinion.
Whatever she DOES decide to do is her decision ultimately and I would hope she wouldn't rely solely on the advice of the internet to make that decision.0 -
it's a freaking 'Chef's Workstation', my gawd. You don't have to call it a 'kitchen' (since some people are stereotyping 'kitchens' as being for 'girls') Look at the Food Network, how many male chefs are there compared to female chefs on there?
I had Tonka trucks when I was a kid, and I had baby dolls. Well I found babies to be creepy, so I played with the trucks, Legos and stuffed animals. The day my father bought me a Barbie doll, you would have though my mother was going to start WWIII, I was 10, and I wanted a 'more grown-up toy'. Well, I wasn't allowed any more Barbie dolls, so I settled for My Little Pony (the original). Now there are groups of ADULT MALES that get together to play with MLP.
*sigh*
Wow. That's one cool kitchen!
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I think you should bypass all these and just buy a tree house that can go up in the back yard. The kid can make it into a kitchen, living room, anything he wants. Grin. Besides...I always did want a tree house when I was little. I think they have play houses too nowadays for indoors. I saw these ones at the mall with special tubing that you could assemble into various shapes and make tent type buildings for the kids to play in which is neat.0
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