lb of fat wieghs the same as lb of muscle
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LOLdo people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?
I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.
please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...
a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.
i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school
are you familiar with the concept of volume?
ok.
Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.
Which weighs more?
Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.
I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.
muscle is denser than fat not heavier... weight is measured in grams ounces pounds and so on so how can two things have two different weights????? if i go to the deli and ask for a pound of turkey breast i may have more turkey breast if i ask them to slice it thin rather than thick but the total weight is still a pound.
again when you bring volume into the discussion you are no longer taking "weight" you are talking about density...
Two things that are the same size can have different weights. I have two two inch balls. One is made from wood. The other from steel. Guess what??? They have different weights. I can say 1 ball weighs more than the other. I'm talking about weight. Density makes the difference in the weight. You are getting 5th grade science concepts confused.
Your argument makes no sense. If you truly believe that you cannot compare the weight of 1 cubic inch of fat with the weight of 1 cubic inch of muscle, then you must also believe that you cannot compare the size of 1 pound of fat with the size of 1 pound of muscle.
i said nothing about a specific volume of anything so dont try to add words to support your incorrect argument. i said from the beginning fat is denser than muscle you would have a greater amount in a pound of fat vs a pound of muscle but they would both still WEIGH the same.. one may take up more space but the WEIGHT would always be 1lb on the scale.
So what exactly are you arguing then? Because it sounds like you agree with what we are actually saying, but trying to put words in our mouths to make it sound like you don't, because again, noone said 1lb of anything weighs more than 1lb of anything else.
Somebody please drag me out of this thread.0 -
Duh. Of course people mean BY VOLUME muscle weighs more than fat.0
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I don't get it.
So should I eat back my exercise calories or not?
No - unless you plan on burning 10K calories while hiking. If that is the case, you will want to consume the 10K plus your BMR to prevent immediately entering starvation mode and gaining back all of your weight.0 -
This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...0 -
Two things that are the same size can have different weights. I have two two inch balls. One is made from wood. The other from steel. Guess what??? They have different weights. I can say 1 ball weighs more than the other. I'm talking about weight. Density makes the difference in the weight. You are getting 5th grade science concepts confused.
Your argument makes no sense. If you truly believe that you cannot compare the weight of 1 cubic inch of fat with the weight of 1 cubic inch of muscle, then you must also believe that you cannot compare the size of 1 pound of fat with the size of 1 pound of muscle.
Sorry to hear about your balls.0 -
OMG when will you stop this madness.
Density= mass/volume
mass = measure of object's resistance to acceleration
weight = mass x gravity (standard = 9.806 m/s^2)
Gravity is essentially a constant, so....
density = (weight /9.806 m/s^2)/ volume
are we catching on yet the relationship here?????
[edited to correct my algebra, not my science]
Just stop.
You underestimate the power of scientific rigor to make people argue over who knows what until they are dead
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This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...
ooooh! Terminal velocity! Air resistance! They don't fall at the same speed because of these things....0 -
Not true to you. Try it.This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...0 -
Yeah, or they think loose is the same as lose. One would think that in a society where education is very prominent, there wouldn't be so many errors such as these.0
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Mee Too!Ugh! Someone shoot me now. I mean it. NOW! Geez.0 -
I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...
ooooh! Terminal velocity! Air resistance! They don't fall at the same speed because of these things....0 -
Sigh...
Reading this at first made me think people just suck at figuring out what someone means when comparing weight without explicitly saying it i.e. muscle weighs more than fat (the fact you are comparing weight here would mean that that variable is NOT the constant).
Instead, it seems a good amount of people fail at both reading comprehension and science.
I mourn this poor dead horse.0 -
A handful of muscle weighs more than a handful of fat. THAT is where this comes from...0
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I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.
And if it weighs the same as a duck IT'S A WITCH!! BURN IT!0 -
I love cheese. Also I love how everyone is getting so upset over this :laugh:0
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Its kind of like what weighs more a lb of feathers of a lb of rocks? when you look at a lb of each the feathers are bigger mass than the rocks. its the same with fat and muscle. a lb of fat is actually more mass than a lb of muscle, I think people are confused visually and a lb is a lb is a lb, and while a lb is lb, the mass may be differant... ?0
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Mee Too!Ugh! Someone shoot me now. I mean it. NOW! Geez.
done. but first chose if you'd rather be shot with a pound of bullets or a pound of feathers0 -
Duh. Of course people mean BY VOLUME muscle weighs more than fat.
Agreed! Its common sense that a pound of fat and a pound of muscle would weigh the same. However you fill up a container with fat and another with muscle, one will weigh more than the other...0 -
This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...
ooooh! Terminal velocity! Air resistance! They don't fall at the same speed because of these things....
9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration due to the gravitational force of the earth, not the velocity.0 -
OMG!!! :grumble:0
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I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.
ok. If people don't love science and don't want to read anyone else discussing science, please hide me. I LOVE science and I am going to geek out to my own heart's little content.
I see what you are saying here, that the rock falls faster than the feathers. Anyone who played around as a child on a beach throwing things should know this is in fact true. 1 lb of rock will fall faster than 1 lb of feathers. For those who don't agree, here is a little experiment: take out two identical peices of paper. They weigh the same. Make one into a ball and hold the other perpendicular to the ground and drop them. Which hits first? Now they WEIGH the same. But there are other factors at play, such a surface area, air resistance, and terminal velocity. They weigh the same. But their interaction with gravity, space, and the resistance of air on their surface area will be different.
I'm a genuine science geek.
I do organic chemistry for fun.
I also love philosophy and weight lifting. 0 -
This NEW science stuff is weird. I said it in the other thread, but it clearly bears repeating here.
Drop a lb of feathers from a given height along with a lb of bricks/rocks. You will find that the bricks land first EVERY time - proof that the gravitational effect on the lb of bricks is greater. Thus, they are heavier. This is a simple experiment anyone can do.
not true they would both fall at 9.8 meters per second...
ooooh! Terminal velocity! Air resistance! They don't fall at the same speed because of these things....
9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration due to the gravitational force of the earth, not the velocity.
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Duh. Of course people mean BY VOLUME muscle weighs more than fat.
Agreed! Its common sense that a pound of fat and a pound of muscle would weigh the same. However you fill up a container with fat and another with muscle, one will weigh more than the other...
How big is the container?0 -
But they would both float - so your experiment fails at producing a conclusive result
I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.
ok. If people don't love science and don't want to read anyone else discussing science, please hide me. I LOVE science and I am going to geek out to my own heart's little content.
I see what you are saying here, that the rock falls faster than the feathers. Anyone who played around as a child on a beach throwing things should know this is in fact true. 1 lb of rock will fall faster than 1 lb of feathers. For those who don't agree, here is a little experiment: take out two identical peices of paper. They weigh the same. Make one into a ball and hold the other perpendicular to the ground and drop them. Which hits first? Now they WEIGH the same. But there are other factors at play, such a surface area, air resistance, and terminal velocity. They weigh the same. But their interaction with gravity, space, and the resistance of air on their surface area will be different.
I'm a genuine science geek.
I do organic chemistry for fun.
I also love philosophy and weight lifting.0 -
Probably a one pound containerDuh. Of course people mean BY VOLUME muscle weighs more than fat.
Agreed! Its common sense that a pound of fat and a pound of muscle would weigh the same. However you fill up a container with fat and another with muscle, one will weigh more than the other...
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But they would both float - so your experiment fails
I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.
ok. If people don't love science and don't want to read anyone else discussing science, please hide me. I LOVE science and I am going to geek out to my own heart's little content.
I see what you are saying here, that the rock falls faster than the feathers. Anyone who played around as a child on a beach throwing things should know this is in fact true. 1 lb of rock will fall faster than 1 lb of feathers. For those who don't agree, here is a little experiment: take out two identical peices of paper. They weigh the same. Make one into a ball and hold the other perpendicular to the ground and drop them. Which hits first? Now they WEIGH the same. But there are other factors at play, such a surface area, air resistance, and terminal velocity. They weigh the same. But their interaction with gravity, space, and the resistance of air on their surface area will be different.
I'm a genuine science geek.
I do organic chemistry for fun.
I also love philosophy and weight lifting.
So they're both witches?0 -
But they would both float - so your experiment fails at producing a conclusive result
I've heard this before. Therefore, try the same experiment in a body of water. Drop in a lb of feathers and a lb of rocks. The rocks sink. Therefore, heavier. That is TWO experiments proving a lb of rocks is heavier.
ok. If people don't love science and don't want to read anyone else discussing science, please hide me. I LOVE science and I am going to geek out to my own heart's little content.
I see what you are saying here, that the rock falls faster than the feathers. Anyone who played around as a child on a beach throwing things should know this is in fact true. 1 lb of rock will fall faster than 1 lb of feathers. For those who don't agree, here is a little experiment: take out two identical peices of paper. They weigh the same. Make one into a ball and hold the other perpendicular to the ground and drop them. Which hits first? Now they WEIGH the same. But there are other factors at play, such a surface area, air resistance, and terminal velocity. They weigh the same. But their interaction with gravity, space, and the resistance of air on their surface area will be different.
I'm a genuine science geek.
I do organic chemistry for fun.
I also love philosophy and weight lifting.
oh sweet lord. Now I have to explain surface tension, too?!?!?! Go to school people!!!0 -
So they're both witches?
I also love monty python
And witches, as it so happens.0 -
But they would both float - so your experiment fails at producing a conclusive result
Holy crap did someone just suggest a rock would float? >.> I mean... in theory kinda depends what the rock was made of and its density... but COME ON! ><0 -
Well this horse has been sufficiently beaten.0
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