Things that make you go...Hmmmm....(outrageous calorie burn)
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The MFP estimates are soooooo far off, though. After buying a HRM I found that what MFP was telling me was usually at least double what I was actually burning. So if they're going by MFP, they'll definitely be off. Hopefully they're not eating back their calories they've "burned", though! :S
Agreed! The MFP calculators and even the machines at the gym! When I got my HRM I was shocked (and slightly saddened) to see how many calories I actually burned. It was half as much as I had thought.
One problem I see if that some of my pals with the inaccurate calorie burns eat their calories... well, "duh... thats why you are losing." LOL It is what it is. I just hope ppl wise up. ;O)0 -
I had a friend post "vigorous pushups" for 1/2 hour straight with insane burns of like 500 calories. I asked them if they had ever tried doing it with a heart monitor and they replied no. But as you say, its their own sabotage. I always use my heart rate monitor so there is no error.
Knowledge is power lol0 -
Great job with your post about accurate calorie estimates OP!! I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. :flowerforyou:
who ARE you? and what did you do with the other guy?0 -
The best approach is to ignore it, if it bothers you that much that is what the delete button is for.
Usually posts like these come from a place of jealousy or regret, they are annoyed when they see GREAT JOB on a 1500 calorie burn when it is obvious that the person is not being accurate. Offer your best advice if you truly think you can "help them" other than that dont complain just delete or ignore it.
I saw it a lot when I first started with MFP but I just realized that if I saw someone logged in for 100 days or so and they were still doing it they were in all sorts of denial and there is nothing you can do to "help " them.
I saw people who were 325lbs + logging two hours of swimming vigorous effort which is like a 3k burn. I am sorry but that is not accurate, people at that weight ( I know I was at 370) are not capable of doing that.
In every instance I saw, the person inevitably failed. They were not being honest with themselves. Myfitnesspal is not a magic cure, it basically just keeps you on track, the honesty part is completely up to the user, if they are not honest this is a useless tool and they are going to fail every time. When they come to grips with it and can actively admit freely to themselves they have a problem they will be successful but until then..
Good point! I shall try to ignore it or delete them all together. ;O) The fact is no matter what you log...whether its fact or fiction....your body knows the difference and will ultimately hold you accountable. I just want to see ppl be successful and it’s annoying when they sabotage themselves and then complain about it like MFP didn’t do its job… No! You didn’t do YOUR job! Eh hmmm… lol :O)
Like I said before… I am 260 and I work hard for every calorie burn and what is more important to me is the minutes/hours I am active each day and not the calories that are registered by my HRM. :O)0 -
Have you been waiting all day to post that picture? Jelly of who?? Someone who is logging 300 calories for croqueting and not losing a single lb? Not so much! Thanks for the concern though! lol
I could totally burn 300 calories playing croquet. I've burned 3000 on a single run before (and I used the MFP estimates, because I don't trust my HRM).
LOL I meant crocheting (like knitting) ….not croqueting … stupid auto correct. LOL
If your HRM knows your height, weight. Gender then I would trust that over MFP any day. If not, then both are probably just as inaccurate.0 -
Great job with your post about accurate calorie estimates OP!! I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. :flowerforyou:
who ARE you? and what did you do with the other guy?
MFP stole his soul.0 -
Working out at the gym is just half of losing weight. The other half is your diet. You can burn lots of calories at the gym but if you eat more than you burned you're not going to lose weight.0
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I delete those people who log checking the mail, washing the dishes, house cleaning, ironing, playing an instrument, kneading bread....... ok I have to stop0
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HRM do not measure calories burned correctly while doing strength training, or some "cardio". They are for aerobic exercise only. Stuff like HIIT, uphill running or other high intensity cardio could easily become anaerobic and also measure incorrectly.
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Very interesting, makes sense now that you mention it. So how do you workout how many calories you actually burned when you do HITT or weights? I always just go by HRM even when i do HITT and weights.0 -
I'm not defensive. I just don't think a 1,000 calories an hour constitutes a big burn unless you weigh 100-120 lbs.It just AMAZES me every time I see a discussion about this lame subject. I will defend anyone who actually is doing the work. I have also caught people lying about their workouts.
Maybe you are missing my point which is WHO REALLY CARES OR KNOWS WHAT SOMEONE ACTUALLY DOES? We can't tell by pics hell we don't even know if it's actually THEIR PICS!!
I have no reason to be defensive. I teach 6 days a week mornings and evenings. When I post a burn I could care less what anyone else thinks. In fact I encourage anyone to come to my class and see how you feel afterwards..lol
And it wasn't being defensive
I have no idea the intensity of the spin class you teach, but I'm 210lbs, and I know I burn 600-700 calories in my hour-long spin class, which is pretty dang intense. I'm pretty sure I'd die if my class was intense enough to burn 1,000 calories. That seems a tad high, IMO. But what do I know? I don't teach a spin class, I just participate.0 -
If your HRM knows your height, weight. Gender then I would trust that over MFP any day. If not, then both are probably just as inaccurate.
Yeah, my HRM knows all that and my estimated max heart rate and fitness level, but it was giving me numbers way above the MFP database, so I don't trust them. I actually use the RunningAHEAD database now and its numbers are very similar to the MFP numbers. It seems pretty accurate to me, since I've been on track with my losing.0 -
Great job with your post about accurate calorie estimates OP!! I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. :flowerforyou:
who ARE you? and what did you do with the other guy?
MFP stole his soul.
More accurately put, an angry MFP'er who logged 3500000 for 20 minutes of "lifting heavy fork to mouth" ate his soul because they were still hungry and trying to eat back all of their exercise calories.0 -
I delete those people who log checking the mail, washing the dishes, house cleaning, ironing, playing an instrument, kneading bread....... ok I have to stop
Kneading bread is in the database? I wish I had known that last week. About ten minutes in and my forearms were on fire.0 -
HRM do not measure calories burned correctly while doing strength training, or some "cardio". They are for aerobic exercise only. Stuff like HIIT, uphill running or other high intensity cardio could easily become anaerobic and also measure incorrectly.
Very interesting, makes sense now that you mention it. So how do you workout how many calories you actually burned when you do HITT or weights? I always just go by HRM even when i do HITT and weights.
Honestly, I don't know. I use the MFP database and there is no entry for HIIT. I log it as aerobic - high impact. :ohwell:
There is an entry for strength - weights but I think it greatly underestimates. You get very few for weights, but tons of calories for pushups. I wouldn't guess the difference would be that great, but maybe it is.0 -
I stopped logging my exercise a long time ago, since I don't eat back exercise calories.
I hope there is someone out there who complains about lazy MFPer's who don't ever exercise.0 -
One of my friends logs over 2000 calorie sometimes, but it's usually after a spin class.
How long is this freaking class?!!!!!!!!
I do 45 minutes and I'm in a pool of sweat to burn around 400 according to the MFP calculator.
I'm asking for a HRM for Christmas so I know what's what.
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One of my friends logs over 2000 calorie sometimes, but it's usually after a spin class.
How long is this freaking class?!!!!!!!!
I do 45 minutes and I'm in a pool of sweat to burn around 400 according to the MFP calculator.
I'm asking for a HRM for Christmas so I know what's what.
Me too...I told my family that's what I want for Christmas and now my mother is panicking and thinks something is wrong with my heart...she said "why on EARTH would you need to monitor your heart rate?"
obviously, my mother never exercised a day in her life and she took diet pills when she was pregnant with me...times have changed..0 -
I always use the MFP database calorie burn. Walking at a slow pace (2 mph such as shopping) and hiking cross country give calorie burns that seem unbelievable to me. Shopping definitely will burn more than sitting but I find it hard to believe someone at a healthy weight could burn more than 1000 calories just walking slowly all day. Hiking is great exercise and does burn a lot but it just seems high for cross country. I could be wrong on that one though.
Come hiking w/ me and the hubs and the dog sometime. Don't forget your 25# plus or minus daypack.
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I always use the MFP database calorie burn. Walking at a slow pace (2 mph such as shopping) and hiking cross country give calorie burns that seem unbelievable to me. Shopping definitely will burn more than sitting but I find it hard to believe someone at a healthy weight could burn more than 1000 calories just walking slowly all day. Hiking is great exercise and does burn a lot but it just seems high for cross country. I could be wrong on that one though.
Come hiking w/ me and the hubs and the dog sometime. Don't forget your 25# plus or minus daypack.
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But there are options for w/wo backpack. I work near a national forest so sometimes we'll just go for a 1.5 hour hike after work and don't carry anything with us. I put in 90 min cross country hiking and it says I burned something like 800 calories. I wish!!
I'm not sure I'd burn that much cross country even if I was wearing the camera backpack which weighs close to 20 lbs.0 -
I'm not defensive. I just don't think a 1,000 calories an hour constitutes a big burn unless you weigh 100-120 lbs.It just AMAZES me every time I see a discussion about this lame subject. I will defend anyone who actually is doing the work. I have also caught people lying about their workouts.
Maybe you are missing my point which is WHO REALLY CARES OR KNOWS WHAT SOMEONE ACTUALLY DOES? We can't tell by pics hell we don't even know if it's actually THEIR PICS!!
I have no reason to be defensive. I teach 6 days a week mornings and evenings. When I post a burn I could care less what anyone else thinks. In fact I encourage anyone to come to my class and see how you feel afterwards..lol
And it wasn't being defensive
Gawd Id sooooooooooooooo love to be at one of your classes.............and I can guarantee Id give it everything I had and try my damnedest. (even if I failed or made you laugh) Id damn sure try
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Maybe it is just inexperience.
This is my second try on here... I think one needs to try variety of methods to estimate calories. When I first started loading calories, I checked data in several places - the machines at the gym, HRM, also other online activity calculators (not just here on MFP), but only those that asked for age and sex, not just listed activity itself. Also, if walking, I used mapmywalk.com that takes into account trail's elevation, etc...
I think after you do your research and monitor yourself for a while you get a pretty good idea of what you can burn. I always override MFP numbers with what I think I am burning, to my very best knowledge based on my personal research.
In my personal experience, I am still burning very similar number of calories and same number of miles on elliptical, let's say, whether I am up or down 20 pounds. What changes is my heart rate.... Lower when I am at lower weight, higher when I am at higher rate....I hope this is making sense.... I know if I push myself harder, I should be able to increase my heart rate and have more effort go into the exercise. Not sure if anybody else had the same experience. It just becomes easier when you weight less if you keep the same speed while doing the exercise.
I also heard before that one needs to subtract calories you would burn if you were sedentary. So if you exercised for 30 min and machine/HRM says you burnt 300 calories, you need to subtract from that what you would have burnt if you were just resting. The resulting number is the true extra calories you burnt from exercise. Kind of makes sense.
As someone already pointed out, HRM won't measure calories burnt during weight training, and also your body burns more calories after, repairing the torn tissue. How would you ever estimate those calorie burns? I don't know... It says so many calories extra per pound of muscle, but without specific tests, how do you know how many pounds of muscle you have?
I also believe one should not log things like cleaning and walking to mailbox because it is part of your lifestyle. Even shopping at the mall. I cleaned and walked to mailbox and went to the mall "before", so it has always been part of my lifestyle and I gained weight. So now that I am trying to lose weight, I won't log these things because they were part of my lifestyle before.
Same for sex. But then it is whole different beast. I know some people log that. I am not sure. I know everybody is very different and it is such a private matter, etc.... and people say because they now lost weight and their sex life improved, they are burning more calories with this activity. I also know that when they say you can burn so many calories during sex, but it usually says per hour. I think you need to be really active during sex and have elevated heart rate... and I am just not sure that average person would have 1 hr worth of really-really active movement sex to justify logging sex. Again, everybody is different, and maybe mine is just really mellow
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Anyway, just some personal experiences/thoughts to share. I think someone replied and said why care what others do... But I think overall this raised an interesting and much discussed subject of trying to estimate calories burnt and what to log and how. I agree that everybody should do their own research and be honest with themselves.
Also, if you are getting HRM, just read all the instructions very carefully to set it up correctly and also remember to stop it when you are taking a break, etc...0 -
Each person's body keeps an accurate log of the workout they really did, the binge they forgave themselves for yesterday because it didnt count and the cigarette smoke in their lungs that they swear isnt there....
Im not worried about what anyone says verses what they actually do... because they won't fake progress based on those words.
I pay attention to action.
Words are wind.0 -
I have seen some funky burns. I normally just go by whatever the MFP database says. What I try to do is not eat back the calories I burned anyways.... that way, even if they are off... I still come out on top!0
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Haters gonna hate!
No but seriously, I think if people consistently post 1200 calorie burns from "House Cleaning" and then eat all those calories back, they are probably doing themselves a disservice.0 -
I delete those people who log checking the mail, washing the dishes, house cleaning, ironing, playing an instrument, kneading bread....... ok I have to stop
Kneading bread is in the database? I wish I had known that last week. About ten minutes in and my forearms were on fire.
That's what I was thinking. I logged my Thanksgiving food prep as cooking. I guess if someone were to delete me for that, then I would be like, "I didn't want you anyway!" or "Take this friendship and shove it!" :laugh:0 -
Just as a point of interest (and to be serious for a moment).
I used to work out with my roommate.
We'd be side by side on the elliptical. We'd go for the same amount of time, at the same speed.
She weighed 300lbs. I weighed 200lbs. In an hour she would burn 600cals! And I would barely hit 300.
So... yeah, larger people can burn twice as much moving at the same pace we do. It gets harder as you get smaller to burn those big cals though.0 -
I just went out for a walk. Brisk 45 minutes and burned 297 calories! My daughter reminds me all the time I lose weight when I take my walks. It even started to rain and I finished!0
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I don't have a HRM and I use MFP's calculations which most people feel are overstated. Yet I almost never log over 400 calories....and I work out hard. That's why I'm boggled when I can do 50 minutes of a killer Bob Harper DVD and barely hit 400 and someone will log sewing and shopping as over 400!!! WTF:noway:0
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i'm 6'3" and about 225lbs. if i'm pushing myself for an hour, i can burn a lot. i also had an HRM that greatly over estimated my burns.
Ditto.
I'm 5'10.5 and over 200 lbs. I play Australian Rules Football which is highly aerobic and have logged burns of well over 1000 cals for an 80 minute game, or over 800 cals for a 2 hour training. I've worn my HRM for trainings and games and judged my burns by how hard I thought I was working vs. what the HRM said. In actuality, the calorie burn probably landed somewhere in between the HRM and my estimate.
I also quit "counting" workout calories because I eat at a deficit from my TDEE so I don't eat back exercise calories. It's working great for me.0 -
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HAHAHA.... I love that one.0
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