Going Vegetarian

GooBeGone

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Hello!

I'm not new to MFP (been a member for a while) but I've decided to become a vegetarian. Meaning NOT vegan. I will no longer eat beef and pork and dairy. I will sometimes eat fish (i don't like a lot of fish. i only eat sushi & shrimp anyways) and chicken. But this is my issue.

I'm a carb addict. I found out that when I restrict my carb intake (such as doing atkins) i actually lose a lot of fat. So I'm currently wanting to become a vegetarian but I don't want to intake a lot of carbs while being one.

Also I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan (U.S. Army) until sometime next year. So while I'm here my options are VERY limited if I chose to go completely vegan. But since I like chicken and some fish products I chose to be vegetarian instead.

Are there any suggestions as to what I should NOT intake carb-wise? They do have sandwiches here and I'm not a newbie to a veggie sandwich (which I use to get often).

I'm just a bit clueless when it comes to a vegetarian lifestyle. I know to stay away the meats I don't want to eat but other than that I would rather stay away from surprise carb-loaded foods. (yes i know that bread has carbs in it and depending on what kind it is then i can be loaded with them).

Thanks for the help!!

PitBullMom_Liz

If you're still planning on eating fish and chicken occasionally, you're not going to be a vegetarian...?

Regarding carbs, just load up on veggies instead of pasta or bread. Why are you cutting out dairy?

Chadomaniac

my word

neanderthin

Funny, it seems there are more vegetarians eating animal protein, like you are, than not.

JustANumber85

id read up on being vegetarian first then id look at the alternatives. You can have meat but get the veggie meat. Im glad you want to take the step but id read into it first.

psuLemon

Why are you becoming a vegetarian? If you enjoy meat, just stick with that and work on eliminating the unhealthy carbs. Going veggie won't make you any healthier. It will just require you to get your sources of protein from an alternate source, such as beans, legumes or soy. If you don't enjoy red meat, then don't eat it, but if you enjoy chicken and sushi, then keep doing what you are doing.

Also, if your goal is to just limit carbs, why don't you go paleo? It's protein and fat and moderate carbs from fruits and veggies. It's kind of the opposite of veggie but meets your requirement. From personal experience, my vegetarians I am friends with are carbs heavy.

swordsmith

You are not a vegetarian then. You are a flexatarian.

Also if you are giving up dairy you would become a de facto vegan.

I am unsure what you could be classified as - I would say a flexi-vegan?

And your post is confusing - you say you do not want to be vegan then state you do.

As for being in the army- I am former 11B (infantry) and the chow line should have enough items to make a veg meal from. In the field yeah- your options are more limited. However, every case of MRE's is supposed to come with one vegetarian meal in it. Per research on the web there are currently 4 veg meals made (Menu 11, 12 ,13 and 14 detailed below)

I also started off cutting out pork, then beef, chicken and finally fish. I have not had any meat in well over a year. I have been blessed with having a great metor as a vegetarian this last year. I should point out that there are a lot of things that have meat products in them such as worcestshire sauce, gummy bears, marshmallows, jello, etc.

If you truly go veg you will become adept at reading ingredients for gelatin and so on. And becareful of soups "vegetable soup" is typically NOT vegetarian being made of beef and/or chicken stock. Eating out is also fun until you get the hang of it!

Good luck- hope you become a real veg

MENU 11-
Vegetable Lasagna
Wet Pack Fruit
Cookies
Peanut butter, chunky
Crackers
Candy I
French vanilla cappuccino
Hot sauce
Accessory packet B
Spoon
Flameless ration heater

MENU 12 - Vegetarian
Spicy Penne Pasta
Toaster pastry
Pudding
Peanut butter
Wheat snack bread
Beverage, carb electro
Hot sauce
Accessory packet A
Spoon
Flameless ration heater
Hot beverage bag

MENU 13- Vegetarian
Cheese Tortellini
Wet pack fruit
First Strike bar
Peanut butter
Crackers
Candy II
Beverage, carbo electro
Spice, seasoning blend
Accessory packet B
Spoon
Flameless ration heater

MENU 14- Vegetarian
Ratatouille
Pound cake
Peanut butter
Tortillas
Dairyshake
Spice, seasoning blend
Accessory packet A
Spoon
Flameless ration heater
Hot beverage bag

75in2013

Why do you want to become vegetarian?
Why do you want to cut out dairy products?
Try to get your carbs from veggies, fruits etc.
Don't go vegan unless you know what you're doing! Vegan is a very difficult lifestyle.

raichhype

I will no longer eat beef and pork and dairy. I will sometimes eat fish (i don't like a lot of fish. i only eat sushi & shrimp anyways) and chicken.

I hope you realise that that doesn't make you a vegetarian? Eating fish and chicken isn't vegetarian considering they are animals.

Also, what reason do you have to cut out dairy? It isn't high in carbs or fat? :S

castlerobber

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I've decided to become a vegetarian. Meaning NOT vegan. I will no longer eat beef and pork and dairy. I will sometimes eat fish (i don't like a lot of fish. i only eat sushi & shrimp anyways) and chicken.

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So I'm currently wanting to become a vegetarian but I don't want to intake a lot of carbs while being one.

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But since I like chicken and some fish products I chose to be vegetarian instead.

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I'm just a bit clueless when it comes to a vegetarian lifestyle.

You aren't describing a vegetarian diet, you're just giving up red meat and dairy.

"Vegetarian" means you don't eat meat...or poultry...or fish. Some vegetarians will eat dairy ("lacto-vegetarian"), some will eat eggs ("ovo-vegetarian"), some eat both ("lacto-ovo vegetarian"). Vegetarians who eat no animal products at all, avoid using animal products in other ways (no fur coats, no leather shoes or belts, etc.), and do it for what they consider ethical reasons, are vegans.

If you're trying to cut carbs, it's much more effective to cut out grains (bread, pasta, rice, corn, cereal) and sugar, which have lots of carbs and relatively little nutrition. Vegetables aren't carb-dense, you can eat a lot of them and still not overdo carbs, and fruit in moderation (NOT fruit juice, eat the whole fruit).

But you have to be careful to get enough protein and fat. A low-carb way of eating cannot also be low-fat, or it simply becomes a high-protein diet.

ShayLune

I went vegetarian for two years, and vegan for seven months. Just be careful. I believe some can really thrive from that diet, but not all. I got extremely ill. I am 25 years old and have been through menopause and praying it can be reversed.. but it doesn't look that way. I also developed rickets.. and have gotten much better, but it took 10,000 units of D3 a day for months.

Make sure you are well educated about the diet before you begin.

now_or_never12

If you want to become a vegetarian than you would have to give up chicken and fish. Not eating red meat doesn't make you a vegetarian.

I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian meaning I still eat dairy products and I eat eggs. It is tough to start out being a vegetarian. I made the switch because of reasons other than weight loss or diet. You need to see what is available where you are that you can eat and still get proper nutrients in.

Educate yourself on what it takes to be a proper vegetarian if you still want to continue to become one. YOu need to know how to get proper amounts of protein and other nutrients without meat.

I'm not sure why you are cutting out dairy products. Unless you have a medical reason to there really isn't a cause to cut them out.

You can be a very healthy vegetarian without a lot of carbs however there's nothing wrong with eating them.

sjohnny

Hello!

... I will sometimes eat fish (i don't like a lot of fish. i only eat sushi & shrimp anyways) ...

If you want to be a vegetarian and don't like fish you don't have to eat them, you can just kill them indiscriminately. They'll get the point that you don't like them and you can still be vegetarian.

Sarauk2sf

Why? What are you trying to achieve?

And as others have said, eating fish and chicken does not a vegetarian make.

MoreBean13

Vegetarians don't eat fish or chicken or seafood.

Stop telling people that. I'm sick of people sneaking these things in to my food because ignoramuses muddle the definition of vegetarian. Tell people "I don't eat red meat" or whatever.

Actual vegetarian low carb involves a lot of eggs.

EatClean_WashUrNuts

I wish you the best on this, given your current deployment....As a former Army Medic...all I can say is this...Carbs are not evil. Meat is good.

Bust your *kitten* in your downtime by working out on base. Any and all body resistance training will aide and RUN. LOTS.


And as they say in Basic....DRINK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Lots of it.


EDIT: Let me add. When you return stateside, or back to home base, then go Vegetarian. The challenges will no longer be present

JenKillough

I'm just a bit clueless when it comes to a vegetarian lifestyle.

Yes, yes you are... and you will now be educated more than you could have imagined. Lol.

lizziebeth1028

"So I'm currently wanting to become a vegetarian but I don't want to intake a lot of carbs while being one."

^^^^I'm so confused by this statement!??!?! Is it possible to be a low carb vegetarian??

Look - I don't care for meat that much. I'll eat chicken or turkey but I'm really really picky on how it's prepared. I'll have the occasional tuna sandwich or shrimp dinner. I eat A LOT of dairy, fresh fruits and veggies, nuts, seeds, grains. I don't see the need to put a label on how or what I eat. I eat what I like in sensible portions. You should do the same. Don't eliminate entire food groups from your 'diet' for the sake of weight loss. Eat things that you like and enjoy in sensible portions. If you restrict your 'diet' too much it becomes cumbersome and unsustainable.

castlerobber

Funny, it seems there are more vegetarians eating animal protein, like you are, than not.

I used to think vegetarians ate mainly vegetables and fruit, and I'm sure a lot of them do. But after looking at some of the "vegetarian" diaries here on MFP, it appears that eating vegetables isn't a requirement. "Grain-atarian" or "non-meat eater" would be more accurate for those folks: Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, granola bars, protein bars/shakes, and soy products make up the bulk of their diet, with maybe some eggs and/or dairy, and a surprising (to me) amount of sweets and soda. Their veggies and fruit may only consist of a small salad at lunch or dinner, or a fruit smoothie for breakfast.

All that to say, vegetarian doesn't necessarily equal healthy. You have to work at it to get proper nutrition.

andy13

I want to go sober but Still drink wine and beer;-)

billsica

If you want to become a vegetarian than you would have to give up chicken and fish. Not eating red meat doesn't make you a vegetarian.

I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian meaning I still eat dairy products and I eat eggs. It is tough to start out being a vegetarian. I made the switch because of reasons other than weight loss or diet. You need to see what is available where you are that you can eat and still get proper nutrients in.

Educate yourself on what it takes to be a proper vegetarian if you still want to continue to become one. YOu need to know how to get proper amounts of protein and other nutrients without meat.

I'm not sure why you are cutting out dairy products. Unless you have a medical reason to there really isn't a cause to cut them out.

You can be a very healthy vegetarian without a lot of carbs however there's nothing wrong with eating them.

^^^ this is great. I agree. Why do you want to become a veg? I think loosing weight isn't a really good reason to, personally speaking.

redraidergirl2009

Hello!

I'm not new to MFP (been a member for a while) but I've decided to become a vegetarian. Meaning NOT vegan. I will no longer eat beef and pork and dairy. I will sometimes eat fish (i don't like a lot of fish. i only eat sushi & shrimp anyways) and chicken. But this is my issue.

I'm a carb addict. I found out that when I restrict my carb intake (such as doing atkins) i actually lose a lot of fat. So I'm currently wanting to become a vegetarian but I don't want to intake a lot of carbs while being one.

Also I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan (U.S. Army) until sometime next year. So while I'm here my options are VERY limited if I chose to go completely vegan. But since I like chicken and some fish products I chose to be vegetarian instead.

Are there any suggestions as to what I should NOT intake carb-wise? They do have sandwiches here and I'm not a newbie to a veggie sandwich (which I use to get often).

I'm just a bit clueless when it comes to a vegetarian lifestyle. I know to stay away the meats I don't want to eat but other than that I would rather stay away from surprise carb-loaded foods. (yes i know that bread has carbs in it and depending on what kind it is then i can be loaded with them).

Thanks for the help!!

If you're going to eat chicken and fish it isn't vegetarian at all, it just means you're cutting dairy and beef out of your diet. Just thought I'd clarify...

If you're still eating chicken and fish you can still reduce carbs. If you were actually vegetarian reducing carbs would be harder. Not quite sure what you're asking?

rml_16

If you eat chicken and seafood, you are not a vegetarian.

redraidergirl2009

If you want to become a vegetarian than you would have to give up chicken and fish. Not eating red meat doesn't make you a vegetarian.

I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian meaning I still eat dairy products and I eat eggs. It is tough to start out being a vegetarian. I made the switch because of reasons other than weight loss or diet. You need to see what is available where you are that you can eat and still get proper nutrients in.

Educate yourself on what it takes to be a proper vegetarian if you still want to continue to become one. YOu need to know how to get proper amounts of protein and other nutrients without meat.

I'm not sure why you are cutting out dairy products. Unless you have a medical reason to there really isn't a cause to cut them out.

You can be a very healthy vegetarian without a lot of carbs however there's nothing wrong with eating them.

^^^ this is great. I agree. Why do you want to become a veg? I think loosing weight isn't a really good reason to, personally speaking.

Weightloss isn't guaranteed with going vegetarian/vegan either. Not sure where people get that from?

LaurenAOK

I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for about a year, and it was a bit difficult to stay light on the carbs. But it can definitely be done! I always drank protein shakes to make sure I got enough protein, as well as beans and lentils. I ate a lot of cheese too but I guess you can't do that, haha. Eggs were also my best friend. Greek yogurt is another low-carb, high-protein food! Why are you cutting out dairy, if I may ask? That's your best bet for low carbs and sufficient protein.

Also, if you are still eating chicken please do not call yourself a vegetarian. That will not fly well with people who actually are. :ohwell:

kaypat09

So many people already beat me to the punch, but WHY do people claim to be vegetarian when they still eat fish, chicken, etc?! So much rage.

keem88

You are not a vegetarian then. You are a flexatarian.

Also if you are giving up dairy you would become a de facto vegan.

I am unsure what you could be classified as - I would say a flexi-vegan?

And your post is confusing - you say you do not want to be vegan then state you do.

As for being in the army- I am former 11B (infantry) and the chow line should have enough items to make a veg meal from. In the field yeah- your options are more limited. However, every case of MRE's is supposed to come with one vegetarian meal in it. Per research on the web there are currently 4 veg meals made (Menu 11, 12 ,13 and 14 detailed below)

I also started off cutting out pork, then beef, chicken and finally fish. I have not had any meat in well over a year. I have been blessed with having a great metor as a vegetarian this last year. I should point out that there are a lot of things that have meat products in them such as worcestshire sauce, gummy bears, marshmallows, jello, etc.

If you truly go veg you will become adept at reading ingredients for gelatin and so on. And becareful of soups "vegetable soup" is typically NOT vegetarian being made of beef and/or chicken stock. Eating out is also fun until you get the hang of it!

Good luck- hope you become a real veg

MENU 11-
Vegetable Lasagna
Wet Pack Fruit
Cookies
Peanut butter, chunky
Crackers
Candy I
French vanilla cappuccino
Hot sauce
Accessory packet B
Spoon
Flameless ration heater

MENU 12 - Vegetarian
Spicy Penne Pasta
Toaster pastry
Pudding
Peanut butter
Wheat snack bread
Beverage, carb electro
Hot sauce
Accessory packet A
Spoon
Flameless ration heater
Hot beverage bag

MENU 13- Vegetarian
Cheese Tortellini
Wet pack fruit
First Strike bar
Peanut butter
Crackers
Candy II
Beverage, carbo electro
Spice, seasoning blend
Accessory packet B
Spoon
Flameless ration heater

MENU 14- Vegetarian
Ratatouille
Pound cake
Peanut butter
Tortillas
Dairyshake
Spice, seasoning blend
Accessory packet A
Spoon
Flameless ration heater
Hot beverage bag

^ this. couldn't have said it better. especially soups that are cheddar based, like cheddar broccoli a lot of times are made with chicken fat (although you eat chicken?)

NocturnalGirl

Wait, so you want to go vegetarian but you don't want to give up chicken and fish?

keem88

i do know a lot of people who do not eat red meat, but they also do not claim to be vegetarians since they do actually, eat meat.

keem88

But since I like chicken and some fish products I chose to be vegetarian instead.


I'm just a bit clueless when it comes to a vegetarian lifestyle. I know to stay away the meats I don't want to eat but other than that I would rather stay away from surprise carb-loaded foods. (yes i know that bread has carbs in it and depending on what kind it is then i can be loaded with them).

Thanks for the help!!

not to sound rude, but clearly you are clueless if you are going to become a vegetarian, possibly vegan, but still eat chicken and fish.

california_peach

If you want to become a vegetarian than you would have to give up chicken and fish. Not eating red meat doesn't make you a vegetarian.

I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian meaning I still eat dairy products and I eat eggs. It is tough to start out being a vegetarian. I made the switch because of reasons other than weight loss or diet. You need to see what is available where you are that you can eat and still get proper nutrients in.

Educate yourself on what it takes to be a proper vegetarian if you still want to continue to become one. YOu need to know how to get proper amounts of protein and other nutrients without meat.

I'm not sure why you are cutting out dairy products. Unless you have a medical reason to there really isn't a cause to cut them out.

You can be a very healthy vegetarian without a lot of carbs however there's nothing wrong with eating them.

This, only I'm not an ovo-lacto vegetarian, but my husband is and has been since he was 19 or 20.