I got told 1200 calories is too low??????
misspancakes
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I am so confused, I really thought the less amount of calories you ate, the more weight you would lose? If I am eating 'too low' calories, why shouldnt I just go and eat KFC every week like I used to?
Please explain
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Please explain
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Calories aren't the sole source of your net weight gain, it's much more complicated than that.
Eat too many calories = You will likely gain weight
Eat too few calories = Your body will slow your metabolism in an effort to "survive"
What you eat is MUCH more important than your total calories.
Also, your insulin resistance and sugar levels play a large role in what you burn and what you store. There's much to learn :-)0 -
It is calories in/calories out. But it's also about finding the right number of calories. If you drop them too low you won't get essential nutrients and yes, if you do that a long time when you don't have much weight to lose it will slow your metabolism (you would still lose, just not as easily).
Read this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12
Also I disagree that it's all about what you eat. It is better for you to eat healthier foods, but for weight loss it is just about calories.0 -
Don't know your height nor weight, but I am guessing 1200 is well below your BMR.0
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In order to lose weight you have to burn more than you consume. But that also doesn't mean when you work out you have to burn off 1500 or so calories. That's including the calories you burn naturally just by going through the day. The calories I burn without exercise is around 2100 a day or so. So as long as I can keep my calories under that I will lose or maintain. If I go over, then I will gain.
1200 is the net calories you should consume in a day. Meaning that is the minimum amount your body needs in order not to go into starvation mode. Once in awhile you may find throughout the day you will eat less than 1200 but as long as you don't do that everyday then you are fine.
There is also a thing called zig zagging calories. That's where you consume a different amount of calories a day. But I wouldn't really suggest that. As long as you keep your net calories at 1200 you should be fine!0 -
Fast weight loss =/= best weight loss. In most cases it is not very sustainable or all that healthy.0
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I can happily live off 1200 calories a day - but I just re did my BMR and all that and it said to eat 2166 calories in order to maintain my current weight.
1200 calories is plenty for me as I exercise every day and usually eat back my calories.0 -
I did 1200 calories for about a month and then stalled out and noticed I was starving after work every day and losing control. Now that I am eating more I am seeing results again.0
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Hi Pancakes
It depends on who you ask. Before I answer this, I should point out that I'm qualified to do so, however the following does not in any way constitute medical advice, nor does it serve as a substitute for advice from a medical doctor, nurse or dietician. Instead it is general advice aimed at a dieting population.
The conventional wisdom for many decades has been that calories in vs calories out = weight loss. However it seems our bodies are naturally far smarter than this. During times of abundance, our basal metabolic rate increases, whereas during times of scarcity, all non essential functions cease and our basal metabolic rate drops quite dramatically to around 6-800 calories per day. This is the premise behind 'starvation mode' - this is analogous to having a V8 engine when the tank is full and a Toyota Prius when the tank is empty.
As a result, for many decades the advice has been that people should lose weigh slowly and steadily with modest caloric restriction. However this doctrine has been challenged recently for two reasons 1-) there are relatively poor results with all approaches (I don't have figures to hand, but I believe there's about a 15% short term successful short weight loss and 5% long term-please correct me if I'm wrong) and 2-) because there's not good evidence to say that rapid weight loss with vigorous caloric restriction is disadvantageous (that is to say harsh caloric restriction is no worse long term than modest restriction). International guidelines are evolving slowly to reflect this. So like any decision in life there are risks and benefits and no decision can be made for you. The prudent thing to do is seek the counsel of an expert(s), read widely and choose wisely. Hope this helps. Good luck on your journey!0 -
#firstworldproblems0
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It is calories in/calories out. But it's also about finding the right number of calories. If you drop them too low you won't get essential nutrients and yes, if you do that a long time when you don't have much weight to lose it will slow your metabolism (you would still lose, just not as easily).
Read this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12
Also I disagree that it's all about what you eat. It is better for you to eat healthier foods, but for weight loss it is just about calories.
Great read! and because someone gave me that link... I upped my calories a couple days ago..0 -
In order to lose weight you have to burn more than you consume. But that also doesn't mean when you work out you have to burn off 1500 or so calories. That's including the calories you burn naturally just by going through the day. The calories I burn without exercise is around 2100 a day or so. So as long as I can keep my calories under that I will lose or maintain. If I go over, then I will gain.
1200 is the net calories you should consume in a day. Meaning that is the minimum amount your body needs in order not to go into starvation mode. Once in awhile you may find throughout the day you will eat less than 1200 but as long as you don't do that everyday then you are fine.
There is also a thing called zig zagging calories. That's where you consume a different amount of calories a day. But I wouldn't really suggest that. As long as you keep your net calories at 1200 you should be fine!
What is wrong with zig-zagging? That's how I lost all my weight. I ate less on the week days with more on the weekends. Not only did it keep my metabolism up, but it also made my plan very livable.0 -
Interesting first post. You claim to be qualified yet offer no credentials. You suggest advice that is contrary to what most on this site would suggest. You make vague mention of international guidelines yet offer no source of your information.Hi Pancakes
It depends on who you ask. Before I answer this, I should point out that I'm qualified to do so, however the following does not in any way constitute medical advice, nor does it serve as a substitute for advice from a medical doctor, nurse or dietician. Instead it is general advice aimed at a dieting population.
The conventional wisdom for many decades has been that calories in vs calories out = weight loss. However it seems our bodies are naturally far smarter than this. During times of abundance, our basal metabolic rate increases, whereas during times of scarcity, all non essential functions cease and our basal metabolic rate drops quite dramatically to around 6-800 calories per day. This is the premise behind 'starvation mode' - this is analogous to having a V8 engine when the tank is full and a Toyota Prius when the tank is empty.
As a result, for many decades the advice has been that people should lose weigh slowly and steadily with modest caloric restriction. However this doctrine has been challenged recently for two reasons 1-) there are relatively poor results with all approaches (I don't have figures to hand, but I believe there's about a 15% short term successful short weight loss and 5% long term-please correct me if I'm wrong) and 2-) because there's not good evidence to say that rapid weight loss with vigorous caloric restriction is disadvantageous (that is to say harsh caloric restriction is no worse long term than modest restriction). International guidelines are evolving slowly to reflect this. So like any decision in life there are risks and benefits and no decision can be made for you. The prudent thing to do is seek the counsel of an expert(s), read widely and choose wisely. Hope this helps. Good luck on your journey!0 -
#firstworldproblems
for realz.
i can't believe we actually have to tell people to eat. i thought evolution worked that concept out for us? :laugh:
anyway, OP, you're (i assume) a grown woman. eat as many calories as you want or dont want. who cares if someone else says it's too low or too high, it's your body after all0 -
In order to lose weight you have to burn more than you consume. But that also doesn't mean when you work out you have to burn off 1500 or so calories. That's including the calories you burn naturally just by going through the day. The calories I burn without exercise is around 2100 a day or so. So as long as I can keep my calories under that I will lose or maintain. If I go over, then I will gain.
1200 is the net calories you should consume in a day. Meaning that is the minimum amount your body needs in order not to go into starvation mode. Once in awhile you may find throughout the day you will eat less than 1200 but as long as you don't do that everyday then you are fine.
There is also a thing called zig zagging calories. That's where you consume a different amount of calories a day. But I wouldn't really suggest that. As long as you keep your net calories at 1200 you should be fine!
What is wrong with zig-zagging? That's how I lost all my weight. I ate less on the week days with more on the weekends. Not only did it keep my metabolism up, but it also made my plan very livable.
Your metabolism isn't going to crash until you get to very low levels of body fat or if you are cutting to may calories. Zig zagging is fine, but the reality is it makes little difference. It worked for you so great. It is still about calories in calories out. Just because you choose to eat more on the weekends doesn't make it better. It just worked for you because overall you cut X number of calories. You consumed less, you lost weight. You could fast for 3 days then eat for 4 days and if you came to the same number of calories you would basically loose the same amount of weight. Or you could eat 6 times a day 7 days a week, consume the same number of calories and get the same results.0 -
I can happily live off 1200 calories a day - but I just re did my BMR and all that and it said to eat 2166 calories in order to maintain my current weight.
1200 calories is plenty for me as I exercise every day and usually eat back my calories.
This is me as well. My TDEE is 2920 and I net 1200 most days and have been losing steadily for months and am never hungry. How many calories to eat is a trial and error thing each person needs to figure out on their own. If things are going well, don't eat more just because someone told you to. Listen to your body and eat more if you're truly hungry.0 -
#firstworldproblems
Yeah mate - first world problems.
Bored much - how about you don't even bother replying unless you have something constructive so say - douche bag0 -
try to eat without thinking too much for a day as if you didn't plan to maintain/lose/gain weight and log all your food on that day and see how much the total number is. maybe you didn't eat what you like, maybe you were too strict about what you ate, maybe your mindset told you that you ate enough, etc. because I did that recently, I thought 1200 was too much because I restricted what I ate (not the amount), but yesterday I ate without thinking I was on diet (aka I broke my diet lol) and I reached 1200 on the breakfast alone and 1900 at the end of the day :b but 80% of the calories come from junk and processed food. I didn't realize it was that much.
so my suggestion try it first and after you know the total calories, you can eat what you really like in moderation and add more healthy food, but don't be too strict like 'no sugar, no junk food, no this, no that, etc'. I don't think people can reach 2000 without involving some food people deem unhealthy. at least for me.
if you think you're not strict and the total number is still below 2166, maybe that's your real number, TDEE only estimates right?0 -
#firstworldproblems
It seems like maybe you have a first world problem with other people expressing a desire to improve their lifestyle. Just because people in third world countries are starving, that doesn't mean that people in a first world country can't try to improve their lifestyle. After all, it seems you are on MFP criticizing others and not out saving the world. Hypocritical much?0 -
I can happily live off 1200 calories a day - but I just re did my BMR and all that and it said to eat 2166 calories in order to maintain my current weight.
1200 calories is plenty for me as I exercise every day and usually eat back my calories.
When you eat back you should be hitting around -20% TDEE.
If its lower you may want to up your calories just for lean body mass sake.
So if TDEE is 2166 then -20%= 2166-433=1733.
Or
Just eat 1733 every day regardless of your activity and youll lose fat.
This is in the Road Map BTW.0 -
MFP gave me the goal of 1200 cals. I guess I just stuck to it because I hated 'going over' I guess I will step it up to 15000
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MFP gave me the goal of 1200 cals. I guess I just stuck to it because I hated 'going over' I guess I will step it up to 1500
Care to share some stats with us?
Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat%
Occupation
Workout routine0 -
MFP gave me the goal of 1200 cals. I guess I just stuck to it because I hated 'going over' I guess I will step it up to 1500
Care to share some stats with us?
Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat%
Occupation
Workout routine
For sure - I am 27, 161cm and weigh 133 pounds. I am unsure as to what my body fat % is and I am a lawyer. So I do a lot
Of sitting down of a day - however I do ensure I get up and walking around and least once or twice an hour
My workout routine is 5 days per week at the gym, usually 25 mins on the treadmill on a 10% incline, 10mins on the rowing machine and/or bike..
One day a week I use the weights - but I will be stepping up the weights as of this week.0 -
How long have you been eating lower cals again?
How long have you been dieting?0 -
It's not just calories in v calories out, it's the type of calories. If you ate 1200 calories of chips and cookies you probably wouldn't lose weight or feel as well as if you had eaten 1200 calories of a healthy diet. You'd lose muscle, worsen your healthy with lots of sugar, or if it was kfc, you'd take in insane amounts of fat, and likely raise your cholestrol, possible blood pressure...0
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How long have you been eating lower cals again?
How long have you been dieting?
3 months I say - not religiously however.0 -
How long have you been eating lower cals again?
How long have you been dieting?
3 months I say - not religiously however.
1600 would be a good number to hit every day.
Even if you arent working out that day.
Eat at an 80:20 clean to junk ratio and youll do fine.
Best practice is to find out your body fat% and every week you measure and weigh.
Even if the scale doesnt move sometimes youll be losing inches.
Also get off the damn treadmill!
Cardio is a great tool for creating a greater deficit but sometimes thats not what the body needs.
Get involved with a gym is you can and learn to become strong.
New rules of lifiting for women or Strong lifts 5x5 are 2 impressive programs that will make you strong while helping you lose unwanted body fat.
Feel free to take a day every few weeks and eat whatever you want and go above and beyond your daily goal.
Heres a couple of people who have had success on numbers like these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/805689-oh-no-i-ve-been-eating-2-000-cals-a-day
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/787472-my-success-2-3rds-of-the-way-to-goal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/804985-this-is-how-hard-it-is-to-reach-1200-calories
Add me if you like and PM and questions.
I'm heading to bed now.0 -
How long have you been eating lower cals again?
How long have you been dieting?
3 months I say - not religiously however.
1600 would be a good number to hit every day.
Even if you arent working out that day.
Eat at an 80:20 clean to junk ratio and youll do fine.
Best practice is to find out your body fat% and every week you measure and weigh.
Even if the scale doesnt move sometimes youll be losing inches.
Also get off the damn treadmill!
Cardio is a great tool for creating a greater deficit but sometimes thats not what the body needs.
Get involved with a gym is you can and learn to become strong.
New rules of lifiting for women or Strong lifts 5x5 are 2 impressive programs that will make you strong while helping you lose unwanted body fat.
Feel free to take a day every few weeks and eat whatever you want and go above and beyond your daily goal.
Heres a couple of people who have had success on numbers like these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/805689-oh-no-i-ve-been-eating-2-000-cals-a-day
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/787472-my-success-2-3rds-of-the-way-to-goal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/804985-this-is-how-hard-it-is-to-reach-1200-calories
Add me if you like and PM and questions.
I'm heading to bed now.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to respond0 -
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There is also a thing called zig zagging calories. That's where you consume a different amount of calories a day. But I wouldn't really suggest that. As long as you keep your net calories at 1200 you should be fine!
Like RoadsterGirl, I've lost most of my weight zig-zagging. Love it. I have a weekly calorie target rather than a daily one. I have days where my intake is low as intense exercise actually depresses my appetite. I make up those calories on days where my appetite is greater or for social events when I want to be able to enjoy some splurges without going over my weekly target. It works quite well for me. I absolutely abhor having to try to hit close to the same number on a daily basis. It frustrates me and throws me off my plan as it makes me eat when I'm truly not hungry just to meet an arbitrary target and then deny myself extra at times I do want it.
I disagree with you about being fine netting 1200 calories each day. Unless someone's BMR, their average intake should never be that low. I strive at the end of each week to have netted my BMRx7. Eating below BMR can suppress your metabolism and who wants that? I want my revved up which, incidentally, zig-zagging can help with because of how it effects your body's hormonal response to food.0
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