Are they just lucky?
tschaff04
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I always wondered about tiny/skinny people who can eat whatever they want and not gain an ounce. I understand in this world(mfp) that cals in being less than cals out makes you lose weight, doesn't matter how that happens really...it's just the science of it. But what about someone who eats whatever they want....say pizza, ice cream, bacon, etc etc. and never gains weight. Does it mean they just have a high metabolism? They are just lucky?? lol What is it?!
I see friends and family that don't have to try, they eat what they want and don't have to worry about counting cals and here I am stuck counting everything I eat for the rest of my life just to maintain a decent weight. They eat whatever and stay skinny as rails. Grrrr.
Ok, I am done with the pity party now.
I see friends and family that don't have to try, they eat what they want and don't have to worry about counting cals and here I am stuck counting everything I eat for the rest of my life just to maintain a decent weight. They eat whatever and stay skinny as rails. Grrrr.
Ok, I am done with the pity party now.
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I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.0
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My guess is it's about lifestyle and moderation. My dad has always been very slim - but he doesn't eat very much, and walks miles every day. He's admitted that he has absolutely no idea what it's like to know you need to lose weight, and to have to learn better habits - but in fairness, he's been supportive of first of all my mum and now me. (And bless him, he gave me what I think was both the oddest, most awkward, and best compliment I've had: 'I never thought particularly that you needed to lose weight, but you do look so much better now!' Awww! From someone who doesn't do any kind of emotion stuff, that was good!)0
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I wanted to add that I know skinny doesn't equate healthy. To me, healthy is more important and whether or not someone is skinny or not, they may not be in the best health if they are eating nothing but processed/junk food. But again, this was just a silly little rant for the day.0
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I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.
While I can't quote the numbers I definitely agree with the bold.
And yes some people have medical conditions that may make things a bit more difficult, but not nearly as frequently or to the magnitude that is often stated.
And following this you are going to see several posts citing examples where someone knows an uncle or a roommate who can apparently eat all they want and they don't get off the couch and they are thin, but in every example you won't see that intake or expenditure was tracked.
EDIT: See?
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html0 -
It means they don't overeat, plain and simple.
Pizza, ice cream, bacon, etc do not make you fat. Overeating does.0 -
They typically move more. Or they don't eat as much as you think they do (aka, eating once a day, etc).
No, no one is just lucky. Some people just have better metabolisms - especially when young. Mine was a raging machine until I hit 30.0 -
I used to be a skinny person who could eat whatever I wanted and not gain, but I was also a fairly active person - on my feet all day - and didn't have great eating habits. Someone might have seen me chowing down on chocolate or pizza, but they didn't see that I skipped breakfast or had a tiny lunch. Once I got a desk job, I gained a little. Once I got a husband and ate regular meals, I gained more.
Now, I'm a fit person who eats pretty much whatever I want, eating lots more than when I was young (I'm maintaining at about 2300 calories), but I lift heavy weights three times a week and run three times a week... It's not luck that makes me able to eat this way, it's because I put in the work. I enjoy exercising, but anyone who says it's just luck doesn't see the sweaty gross mess I am when I come home from a run. :laugh:0 -
I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.
yes, this... although my calorie intake is slightly higher then 1300 calories.0 -
Some of them are just lucky. I was for most of my life. Not so much anymore. :-(0
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I used to be able to eat whatever I wanted, but after my third child I had to start being careful. I am the youngest of 7 children, so I had the benefit of seeing what my future held for me if I continued eating unhealthy, I am the only one not seriously overweight. My oldest brother is 52 he weighs 425 lbs.0
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They typically move more. Or they don't eat as much as you think they do (aka, eating once a day, etc).
No, no one is just lucky. Some people just have better metabolisms - especially when young. Mine was a raging machine until I hit 30.
I used to never exercise and lived on pizza, McDonald's (two cheeseburgers, large fries and a Coke to drink -- and NOT my only meal for the day) and Little Debbie snacks and I weighed 110 pounds.0 -
My husband has always been thin, and he could eat a 2L container of ice cream. I saw someone say that a thin person doesn't eat as much as they seem - but trust me... my husband sure does! At least 2500 calories a day and probably more. My sister in law is the same way. But, I suppose that will catch up to them eventually as they get older. He's only 25.
Anyway. It's possible to be thin and be unhealthy. It's called "skinny fat". Your body can be terribly unhealthy even though you appear to be very thin. What's most important is health and treating and feeding your body right!
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As some people have already stated, you don't know the exact eating or exercise habits of those you observe to be "naturally skinny".
No one is just lucky. There are other trends at work.0 -
I read a study recently that the difference between a low and high metabolism is usually around only 200 calories per day. So, the idea that there are skinny people out there who can eat ice cream and burgers all day is mostly false. Maybe only if they're still a growing teenager!0
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I always wondered about tiny/skinny people who can eat whatever they want and not gain an ounce.
I'm marrying one. He's 6'2" and fights to weigh 150 (if he eats like he wants he weight 140-145). He never exercises purposefully, but he does walk at his job a lot, helps me around the house and works on his car. Other than that, he is 100% sedentary.
The things I learned about him:
1. He forgets to eat a lot so when he does eat it looks like a ton of food. In reality, he's still under his calorie TDEE by A LOT.
2. He has high blood pressure and could get diabetes in the future.
3. He also can't run a mile and walking a mile or two on the weekend is shocking for him. I can easily walk 6-10 miles in a day and aside from the blisters on my feet, I'm still raring to go.
4. He gets a surprising amount of exercise from doing his hobby's. We track it once and he burned 1500 extra in one day just from all the walking at work and lifting of heavy parts in his car.
In reality, I struggle every day with my weight, but I am 100 times more healthy than my skinny pretty boy. I have low blood pressure, a slow heart rate (about 65 bmp at rest), excellent cardiovascular scores, I can walk for forever, run faster than needed to pass a highschool fitness test, and I never run out of energy.
Don't feel bad, feel the schadenfreude.0 -
I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.
While I can't quote the numbers I definitely agree with the bold.
And yes some people have medical conditions that may make things a bit more difficult, but not nearly as frequently or to the magnitude that is often stated.
And following this you are going to see several posts citing examples where someone knows an uncle or a roommate who can apparently eat all they want and they don't get off the couch and they are thin, but in every example you won't see that intake or expenditure was tracked.
EDIT: See?
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html
Read the article.
For a personal anecdote: My dad appears to eat all the time and yet never gains weight. What people don't see is that he is very active and doesn't snack too much. So if he has a big lunch or dinner, he may not eat again till the next meal. And eating more is part of social outings...whereas he doesn't eat as much at home.
Moral of the story: What you see isn't always what you get.0 -
I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.
so so very true. Really think about it. I know a lot of thin people who eat junk, but they pick at it. A cookie here, a few chips there, etc... It always looks like they are eating crap, but they eat very little of it.0 -
As some people have already stated, you don't know the exact eating or exercise habits of those you observe to be "naturally skinny".
No one is just lucky. There are other trends at work.
I know what MY exercise and eating habits were when I was in that category. Just sayin'.0 -
In my younger slender days I could easily eat a large, meat-lovers deep dish pizza in one sitting, and wash it down with a six pack of beer, which would be on the order of 3500 calories. Someone just looking at that would think I was some sort of freak of nature. But they wouldn't see that I didn't eat all day that day, and wouldn't get hungry again until the next evening.
Unfortunately years of that sort of behavior eventually turned into an inability to eat in moderation - - I thought it was normal to have a large pizza for dinner, and that I had a special metabolism that would enable me to have fast food three times a day.0 -
They definitely don't et as much as you think they do....you are only seeing one small part of their diet/lifestyle. Perhaps you only spend time with them in social situations where eating is more likely? Food is not inherently bad. Types of food eaten doesn't matter much in the end for actual weight. Overeating is pretty much the only thing that will put weight on you.0
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I had a friend in college who openly ate junk food constantly. She was extremely active, but, when she and I discussed her "luck" (I could run every minute of every day, and if I ate like her, would still gain weight), she actually looked at me and said "You're the lucky one." When I asked her why, she said, one day I won't be this active and I haven't learned to eat right. It'll catch up. It did, and then she asked me for advice on losing weight. Perspective.0
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As some people have already stated, you don't know the exact eating or exercise habits of those you observe to be "naturally skinny".
No one is just lucky. There are other trends at work.
I know what MY exercise and eating habits were when I was in that category. Just sayin'.
Did you record intake and expenditure? I'm curious how much your TDEE changed if you have that data. It would make for interesting discussion since in most cases people have anecdote and not data.0 -
I always wondered about tiny/skinny people who can eat whatever they want and not gain an ounce. I understand in this world(mfp) that cals in being less than cals out makes you lose weight, doesn't matter how that happens really...it's just the science of it. But what about someone who eats whatever they want....say pizza, ice cream, bacon, etc etc. and never gains weight. Does it mean they just have a high metabolism? They are just lucky?? lol What is it?!
I see friends and family that don't have to try, they eat what they want and don't have to worry about counting cals and here I am stuck counting everything I eat for the rest of my life just to maintain a decent weight. They eat whatever and stay skinny as rails. Grrrr.
Ok, I am done with the pity party now.
some people are 'lucky' - like my husband who can eat what he wants and never puts on a ounce!
but i think in a lot of cases its a misconception. i have friends who say i am 'naturally skinny'. would i be here if i was?!! i just work at it when they dont see, i work out 5 x a week and watch what i eat, so that when i go out with them i may well hoover up 3 courses if i have earnt it!0 -
I always wondered about tiny/skinny people who can eat whatever they want and not gain an ounce.
I'm marrying one. He's 6'2" and fights to weigh 150 (if he eats like he wants he weight 140-145). He never exercises purposefully, but he does walk at his job a lot, helps me around the house and works on his car. Other than that, he is 100% sedentary.
The things I learned about him:
1. He forgets to eat a lot so when he does eat it looks like a ton of food. In reality, he's still under his calorie TDEE by A LOT.
2. He has high blood pressure and could get diabetes in the future.
3. He also can't run a mile and walking a mile or two on the weekend is shocking for him. I can easily walk 6-10 miles in a day and aside from the blisters on my feet, I'm still raring to go.
4. He gets a surprising amount of exercise from doing his hobby's. We track it once and he burned 1500 extra in one day just from all the walking at work and lifting of heavy parts in his car.
In reality, I struggle every day with my weight, but I am 100 times more healthy than my skinny pretty boy. I have low blood pressure, a slow heart rate (about 65 bmp at rest), excellent cardiovascular scores, I can walk for forever, run faster than needed to pass a highschool fitness test, and I never run out of energy.
Don't feel bad, feel the schadenfreude.
I am married to someone sort of like this. lol My husband weighs 135 pounds soaking wet, he is 5'7". He has actually tried to gain weight but if he isn't consciously eating more than his hunger tells him to he just can't. He isn't hungry enough to gain weight by just eating like that. He usually eats one meal and one snack a day and isn't hungry more than that. It sometimes drives me bonkers. I eat the same thing at dinner and feel hungry two hours later and he is good for the night. He is also pretty active, his job is high demand and he has always been active. He ran a lot in school and was super fast and could probably still out run me even though I am working my tail off with the C25K and he hasn't ran in years. :sad:0 -
A lot of people eat crap, but not too much crap to gain weight.0
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As some people have already stated, you don't know the exact eating or exercise habits of those you observe to be "naturally skinny".
No one is just lucky. There are other trends at work.
I know what MY exercise and eating habits were when I was in that category. Just sayin'.
Did you record intake and expenditure? I'm curious how much your TDEE changed if you have that data. It would make for interesting discussion since in most cases people have anecdote and not data.
Sorry to butt in. But I tracked my husbands intake and expenditure on MFP actually. He took in about 2500-3000 calories and does not work out. He's 5"6 and 120lbs. Just shows that it -is- possible for someone to just have a high metabolism. That being said, being thin doesn't necessarily make them healthy.0 -
Yep I agree & I get the same accuse from my mom.I think you'll find those skinny people don't eat as much as you think they do and that they are very active. I get accused of eating all day long but my daily intake is actually about 1300 calories. There are very few people in the world who have a super metabolism. Most people are within 5% of each other whether fat or thin.
I'm eating from 1600-2000+ calories. Today its 1700 & is a rest day for me, a bit over my calorie goal but since I lift heavy weights & so my metabolism is more elevated now than before. I find that I still lose weight on a 1600 calorie diet (my supposed maintenance calories) w/c to most women with a similar 5'2 54kg (120 lb) frame is enough to pack on a kilo or 2.2 pounds. Also I clean my room 2x a week, walk a lot during lunch break & also everyday I walk 2 kms from the office then climb 6 flights of stairs just to get to the nearest bus station. Not to mention that I also fidget a lot. I've been maintaining for more than a year now.yes, this... although my calorie intake is slightly higher then 1300 calories.0 -
Naturally skinny people = eat less calories than imagined and / or do more activity than is imagined.
Activity = planned (exercise) but particularly spontaneous (general everyday movement like walking, standing, fidgeting, gardening, cleaning etc etc)0 -
As some people have already stated, you don't know the exact eating or exercise habits of those you observe to be "naturally skinny".
No one is just lucky. There are other trends at work.
I know what MY exercise and eating habits were when I was in that category. Just sayin'.
Did you record intake and expenditure? I'm curious how much your TDEE changed if you have that data. It would make for interesting discussion since in most cases people have anecdote and not data.
No, But my previous post lists what I ate on a daily basis. It was a lot and I didn't exercise ever. The year I turned 29 I started gaining weight for no obious reason. I had the same job, the same daily activities and the same diet I'd had the year before. Suddenly, I was gaining when I never had that problem before and I had to modify my lifestyle in order to lose that weight.
When I think about what I ate back in the day vs. what I eat now, I should weigh 300 pounds. Restaurant meals more than once a week (always with dessert -- lunch was at least 2,000 calories alone); fast food -- and not the healthier, low-calorie options; and no exercise to speak of.
I'm a creature of habit and always got the same meals at restaurants so I can look back and tell you what my calorie intake was at the time. If I ate like that now, even with exercising nearly daily, I would be gaining weight left and right.
I just looked up my regular entree at TGI Friday, where I often went with people from work: Sizzling chicken and cheese for 1,100 calories and I cleaned my plate and had dessert every time. Then ate dinner. That's just one example.0 -
I don't know if they all eat less than you honk and are more active than you think. Maybe most are. When I met my husband he had a desk job and his hobby was working on satellite/air plane models. NOT a lot of activity there! He ate lots of ice cream, peanut butter, tacos, cheeseburgers.... Was 5'9.5" and weighed 117# (27 yrs old)
He now weighs 140 and is skinny everywhere except his belly.. Maybe all that ice cream caught up with him. (47 yrs old)
I used to wish I could eat like him and be skinny.0
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