Is this normal?
plaingirly
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I have been eating much healthier in the past 3 weeks and have cut right down on white carbs. I don't really like rice and pasta but I used to eat a lot of bread and crisps.
Mostly I have been eating salad with some sort of protein and have felt fine - less sluggish than I used to.
On Friday I was at a Christmas party and had lasagne and had stomach pains a couple of hours later. Just thought it was to do with fizzy pop or dancing about too much. Put it out of my mind and carried on.
Tonight I had 2 little bits of garlic bread and a small slice of pizza. Felt fine when I was eating them but now a few hour later my stomach hurts!
I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues.
When you stop eating something does it cause issues to add it back in? Even in small amounts?
Mostly I have been eating salad with some sort of protein and have felt fine - less sluggish than I used to.
On Friday I was at a Christmas party and had lasagne and had stomach pains a couple of hours later. Just thought it was to do with fizzy pop or dancing about too much. Put it out of my mind and carried on.
Tonight I had 2 little bits of garlic bread and a small slice of pizza. Felt fine when I was eating them but now a few hour later my stomach hurts!
I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues.
When you stop eating something does it cause issues to add it back in? Even in small amounts?
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I have issues too, if I go back to eating any kind of greasy, fatty food (ala Big Mac and fries, etc.).
That stuff isn't bad in small amounts if you are really craving it, but I find that afterwards I usually don't feel very good.0 -
Our bodies aren't naturally designed to eat all that processed food (refined sugars, chemicals, refined carbs). Our hunter gather ancestors didn't have high fructose corn syrup and white breads. We train our bodies to eat those foods from a young age and soon we start to crave them. Take them away long enough and your body forgets about them. If you eat them again later it's kind of like introducing something foreign into your body. It doesn't naturally know what to do with those foods because we haven't evolved that way. I hope that makes sense and helps.0
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The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.0 -
The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.0 -
I went vegan a few months ago, and last month I accidentally had whey protein from a smoothie shop when I asked for rice. I had really bad cramps after. So if you haven't been eating a lot of cheese and then suddenly had a bunch of pizza, it could be that. You do lose your tolerance to lactose fairly quickly if you cut it out. And I'm not spouting vegan nonsense or anything because I have a couple of friends that tried to go dairy free just for their health, skin, etc. and went back to eating it, and got sick when they first started trying again.0
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The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.
Doctors also prescribe speed to children.0 -
If I drink soda (especially full sugar) I have stomach cramps that could kill a horse. I used to drink the stuff every day. Now I'd rather get gut punched by a heavy lifter from the forum. I also can't eat much in one sitting without being uncomfortable. I'm so used to eating a little throughout the day that big meals are not even possible for me anymore.
However, if it gets really bad or happens a lot or with other foods you might want to ask someone with a medical degree
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The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.
Doctors also prescribe speed to children.
albuquerque,,,,, see I can do it too,,,,,,,,,,, say something totally unrelated to what you said.0 -
Gallbladder issues?0
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The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.
And your statement has nothing at all to do with the Op's original post, as it is clear from this "I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues." , that it is highly unlikely to be a food allergy issue...also there is a difference between food allergy and food intolerance, a true food allergy, such as that of nuts, results in anaphylactic shock. Maybe you need to do some research yourself before calling someone else's words 'hogwash'.0 -
I couldn't have said it any better.The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
Eating like a caveman, while driving my car, and talking on my cell phone. Now that's hogwash!0 -
The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.
And your statement has nothing at all to do with the Op's original post, as it is clear from this "I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues." , that it is highly unlikely to be a food allergy issue...also there is a difference between food allergy and food intolerance, a true food allergy, such as that of nuts, results in anaphylactic shock. Maybe you need to do some research yourself before calling someone else's words 'hogwash'.
you can eat crap all your life and not know it, until you get rid of it and then reintroduce it. intolerance or allergy, whatever, splitting hairs to make yourself feel better. Not all allergies cause you to go into shock. My remarks were pointed to you not the OP, you said there was no correlation between how the OP feels now and reintroducing foods, that is hogwash.0 -
I couldn't have said it any better.The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
Eating like a caveman, while driving my car, and talking on my cell phone. Now that's hogwash!
again one has nothing to do with the other, ignorance is bliss I guess.0 -
And so it begins. OP asks about effects of eating less processed food, unprocessed food eater confirms OP's experience and offers a possible explanation, makes the mistake of mentioning evolution. Processed food consumer/calories in calories out person said OP's experience unlikely to be related to processed food, dismisses OP's experience, calls second poster stupid, and on and on. This is the way we approach things here, apparently everyone has a dog in this fight.0
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Ditto. Anything greasy will get my gut roiling every time. Although I seldom eat bread of any kind, a little bit doesn't bother me but a lot will show on the scale fast! Same with cheese. Milk, however, has taught me that I am highly intolerant of it and it's best to just stay away from it. I was probably lactose intolerant as a child but didn't know it.I have issues too, if I go back to eating any kind of greasy, fatty food.0 -
Gallbladder issues?
That is kinda what I was thinking...
I had my gallbladder out about 15 years ago. One of the worst attacks I had, which ended with me going by ambulance to the ER, was caused by eating lasagna. Without fail, if I ate anything greasy, 4-5 hours later I was in AGONY.
OP..I would start keeping a food diary. Write down what you eat, when you eat it, and any stomach issues that might come up. Take this to your doctor. he will probably order an ultrasound to look for stones and sludge...0 -
This thread is a perfect example of why we can't have nice things.
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I haven't seen anyone mention celiac disease yet.I have been eating much healthier in the past 3 weeks and have cut right down on white carbs. I don't really like rice and pasta but I used to eat a lot of bread and crisps.
Mostly I have been eating salad with some sort of protein and have felt fine - less sluggish than I used to.
On Friday I was at a Christmas party and had lasagne and had stomach pains a couple of hours later. Just thought it was to do with fizzy pop or dancing about too much. Put it out of my mind and carried on.
Tonight I had 2 little bits of garlic bread and a small slice of pizza. Felt fine when I was eating them but now a few hour later my stomach hurts!
I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues.
When you stop eating something does it cause issues to add it back in? Even in small amounts?0 -
I haven't see anyone mention changes in the gut flora or enzyme balance yet. Could be the fats or the carbs, there is no particular reason to start amateur diagnosing protein allergies given this is a new phenomenon.0
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The fact is, if you take any food out of your diet (and this is not limited to refined or processed foods), it will cause issues when you re-introduce it again. It is probably easy to convince oneself that it is because the food is intrinsically 'bad' that you get issues when you eat it again, but the fact is, this could happen with even something like fruit or vegetables (people often get issues if they start eating those having had a diet of mostly processed foods).
It has nothing to do with what our bodies were or were not naturally designed for either, there is this thing called evolution. We are not living the lifestyles of our ancestors, we are not roaming free, hunting and gathering our own food, and imo, it is rather silly to think modern man should be striving to live that way. It is perfectly possible to practise moderation and limit certain foods, without cutting them out entirely, and to remain healthy.
That is pure hogwash. Doctors all the time advise elimination diets to see if people have any food allergies.
This has nothing to do with an elimination diet. It has to do with adding something that has not been eliminated from the diet for a while. With one possible causes of an issue are removed to see if it results in a positive effect. The other is adding something that is not normally part of the diet. Notice the difference. Also notice there is nothing called an addition diet because of this very fact. I know if I don't eat apples for a long time when I first start eating them I will find I have some issues which go away in a day or so, but I guess I could just as easily say the apples are bad for me. I would miss apples though.0 -
All I know is that I'm seriously afraid of the consequences of EVER eating at McDonalds again.... :shudders:0
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Clearly this means you shouldn't be eating processed carbs - you are poisoning your body and your body is rebelling by giving you stomach cramps and aches. Your best bet is to avoid the crap as much as possible!0
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Couldn't it just have been indigestion or something?0
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It could be that you have candida? If you do an internet search for symptoms you will find a list which will help you determine if you do or not. If you have removed unrefined carbs (what about sugar have you removed that too?), what happens is that the candida overgrowth starts to die away and then if you eat unrefined, which turns immediately to sugar the candida who are starving have a field day when you eat their food which is unrefined carbs, this upsets your intestinal balance. I would suggest staying off the unrefined totally e.g. a la anti candida diet so not too much fruit either, for about 6 months. You could also take a probiotic supplement at the same time to re-inhabit your gut with more healthy bioflora.0
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Here is a link on Candida for you http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/digestive-problems/candida-cure-symptoms-00154/0
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I've had this problem too. I would say I maybe eat around 2 slices of bread a day, but less as I try to have cereal etc. instead. I had some rice at the weekend and my stomach was sore too. I guess its just taking things out your diet and then introducing them a bit at a time? Maybe it if continues get it checked out x0
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Oh yes. I have had this happen. Eat really good for a while, then eat junk again and ooooohhhhhhhhhh so painful! :sick: But eat enough junk and it is no longer an issue. :laugh:0
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Food allergies and food intolerances are on a spectrum. You can have a mild allergic reaction (some mouth itching, perhaps) to something that you are allergic to one day, and the next day go into full blown anaphylaxis from the same type of exposure. You can test negative on a skin scratch test, and yet go into anaphylaxis from eating the same substance. You can react to one strain but not another.
Intolerances too can be on a spectrum. Maybe a bit of tummy growling or diarrhoea from exposure to a substance, or maybe all the way up to gluten ataxia where it prevents you from being able to walk, talk, or feed yourself.
You can have an intolerance, even celiac disease, and never have any stomach issues - or issues that would normally be associated by a doctor with celiac disease. Many celiacs have no digestive symptoms before quitting gluten. However, after clearing gluten from your system, so that your body is no longer on "high alert" all of the time, many celiacs find that they have much worse reactions to gluten when they are then exposed accidentally. My son always had stomach aches after eating, but it wasn't until he'd been off of gluten for a while that he started having vomiting after gluten exposure. He never had the "classic" diarrhoea. I never had stomach aches, vomiting, or diarrhoea from gluten exposure, before or after quitting, but did have constipation, nosebleeds, infertility, anaemia, depression, foggy thinking, and many other symptoms that no doctor had ever connected with gluten.
My comment on the OP's original post is that:
a) she eliminated bread from her diet and was not eating pasta
b) she felt more alert, energetic, and less foggy headed (my interpretation of "less sluggish than I used to") after changing her diet
c) off-diet infractions made her ill
This is a pretty classic chain of events for a celiac who tries out a low carb, paleo, or gluten free diet. I'm not saying she has celiac. I'm not a doctor. It could certainly be another body system, another allergy or intolerance, a reaction to too much grease, to changes in gut flora, in fact it could even be stress related or she could be fighting a virus. I would simply suggest celiac disease as a possibility, as I wish that someone had suggested celiac disease to me twenty year ago!And your statement has nothing at all to do with the Op's original post, as it is clear from this "I never had any sort of stomach issues when I was eating food like that all the time! I would eat a full 10 inch pizza to myself and not have any issues." , that it is highly unlikely to be a food allergy issue...also there is a difference between food allergy and food intolerance, a true food allergy, such as that of nuts, results in anaphylactic shock. Maybe you need to do some research yourself before calling someone else's words 'hogwash'.0 -
My guess is gluten intolerance or possibly celiac....0
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Haven't read the previous comments but I have had this happen quite frequently. I'm not sure if its a medical issue, but I find that I lose "tolerance" to certain foods if I don't eat them for awhile.0
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