QUESTION about womens' jeans sizing

RobynLB

I believe the diffrence between Jr.s and Ms.s is that the jr.s are cut a little bit narrower with a slightly shorter rise. Basically jrs. are usually cut to allow for the less developed curves.

i was just going to ask that, as i didn't really now what the difference was as i seem to be a 0-2 in misses/ womens but a 3 in juniors...

Juniors sizes I think are considerably smaller than women's now due to sizing changes affecting women's sizing more than juniors's sizing. For instance, not only is the average American overweight, but even the average 20-something American woman now has a BMI above 25 - and younger people are on average smaller/less overweight. than older people - the average goes up with each decade of life. 66% of Americans are clinically overweight, with a BMI 25 or above. I think the women's sizing is not just about vanity selling, it's about real averages and ranges - the stores don't want to make clothes they can' sell. Many/most stores in my area don't sell anything below size 4, while size 4 is larger than it used to be. But junior sizes will include styles for a range that statistically is not as likely to be overweight - the average under 18 American is not overweight, though those numbers are growing too(about 30% right now, I think). The result is that while a juniors 3 used to equal a women's 4, a women's 4 is now much larger than a juniors' 5 at the stores I shop.

Even Jr's and kids sizes are changing. I buy stuff from the kids section at Target sometimes -- I may have the fashion sense of a six year old, but at 5'7" and 128, I am NOT the size any kid should be. What's going on with American kids?

zentha1384

It also doesn't help that the sizes change. The average woman's size is suppose like 12 or 14, so as the average woman's waist gets bigger the sizes change. Marilyn Monroe was a size 12-14 during her prime. A person with her exact measurements now would be wearing a size 8.

Men's pants varies a little bit brand to brand but in general are based on waist size. I really wish women's pants were more like that.

Troll

I wear 3, 5, 6, 7 size jeans. I wish there was a reason. some 7s cut into my hips and some 3s are baggy. who knows!

BondBomb

Annoying right?
I have jeans from a 4 - 10. However I will say in most brands I am consistently a 6. For me its all about whether it covers my Sir Mix-a-lot Booty. I almost always have a huge gap in the waist.

MaraDiaz

My old skinny jeans:

2 size 10s
1 size 9

All were worn last when I was in my 120s and 130s (my other clothes were size 5s and 6s) and right now I'm using them as inspiration to get thin again. The muffintop they create is hilarious and sad at the same time. The size 9 actually fits looser than the 10s, by the way.

My current pair bought a few months ago that I can pull off and on without unbuttoning now:

Size 10

But the day I bought those, there were size 12s that fit looser than they did!


If you want jeans that will tell you the truth, maybe man jeans still do. They're sized by inches. Hm, makes me want to run and buy a pair!

lin7604

It also doesn't help that the sizes change. The average woman's size is suppose like 12 or 14, so as the average woman's waist gets bigger the sizes change. Marilyn Monroe was a size 12-14 during her prime. A person with her exact measurements now would be wearing a size 8.

Men's pants varies a little bit brand to brand but in general are based on waist size. I really wish women's pants were more like that.

so why do they need to mess around with things and constantly change thing... i a size should be a size no matter what. it should be like mens with a waist size and leave it at that! i don't agree just b/c waist sizes are expanding, that our clothes should too and still hold the same size value to it. you grow, you move up to the next size. simple as that!!!!!!

MaraDiaz

It also doesn't help that the sizes change. The average woman's size is suppose like 12 or 14, so as the average woman's waist gets bigger the sizes change. Marilyn Monroe was a size 12-14 during her prime. A person with her exact measurements now would be wearing a size 8.

Men's pants varies a little bit brand to brand but in general are based on waist size. I really wish women's pants were more like that.

so why do they need to mess around with things and constantly change thing... i a size should be a size no matter what. it should be like mens with a waist size and leave it at that! i don't agree just b/c waist sizes are expanding, that our clothes should too and still hold the same size value to it. you grow, you move up to the next size. simple as that!!!!!!

It's called vanity sizing, all else being equal, a woman is more likely to buy a piece of clothing that shows a smaller size tag. I admit it, I will!

lin7604

well that is crazy and it's so wrong. I will buy what fits, not buy something b/c of a size.... really, if you know you are not a size 4 and you buy a size 4, how does that make anyone feel better?

Rockmyskinnyjeans

I usually just shop from the same store all the time and, even then, I can vary off a size or 2, depending on the cut of the jeans. It doesn't matter though, as long as I am happy with how I look in them. I am usually a 26-28 at Buckle, depending on which jeans I try on. I don't let the variations get to me. When I shop at Maurices or Vanity, I am the equivalent of a size 3/5. Nordstrom, I bought a pair of Kut from the Kloth jeans that were a 4. That's about the variation I can report

MaraDiaz

well that is crazy and it's so wrong. I will buy what fits, not buy something b/c of a size.... really, if you know you are not a size 4 and you buy a size 4, how does that make anyone feel better?

That's the point. All else being equal. So there are two black skirts that fit and look the same, you like them both equally, one says size 8, one says size 5. I don't know about you, but I'm buying the 5s.

TwistedFun

measure the waist bands of each of your jeans, you will find that they are very similar in circumference

agoofynut

It is called vanity sizing. The more expensive the Jean, the smaller the number, so your size 6 is a size 2 in that brand... people feel better about being a smaller size and buy more clothes.

THIS. It's how they get you to pay so much for a pair of jeans.

Ejourneys

I wear men's jeans. They fit me fine.
In the store I head to the men's clothing section, pick out what I need, and take it to the women's fitting rooms. No one says boo.
If I ever had to go shopping for women's pants I'd take a tape measure with me. Between the brand differences and the vanity sizing, I wouldn't have a clue of where to start.

wimeezer

Not only do sizes vary between brands, they can vary in the same production run. Fabric is cut in multiple layers at the factory. Have you ever tried to cut 4-6 sheets of paper at the same time? Then you know the paper shifts while you are cutting. That same thing happens in the factory. The first layer is the correct size ; the blade slides a bit with each layer. Not much, but enough. A quarter inch on each seam gives you an extra inch overall. That's why you can grab 3 pair of size 12s of same style/brand and they all can fit differently.

The joys of mass production.

giggitygoo

Ah vanity sizing. I hate it! It means I have to try on a million pairs of jeans before I find one that fits correctly. It makes clothes shopping a nightmare. I have good luck at abercrombie and fitch. I generally don't much like their clothes, but the jeans are some of the only ones that don't gap in the waist and fit my booty.

Maybe the size 6 jeans were just bigger on you than you realized. If you fit in a size 2, I would celebrate

libbymcbain

Well that's a good day!

CINNAMON77_00

I think size fluctuates with the designers... if in THEIR heads they are a size 8...on a fat day their 8s will fit a 10 ...on their skinny days, they will fit a 6. (at least that is what I tell myself!)