To all the men who think they are nice, take the Fedora test
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No guy would pass that test...so those of you who did is either a liar or smooth talking OP =P
Um, I would hope that generally people who are humans would pass this test.
It's the fedora's causing you issue at the end isn't it, you just can't bear to part with your fedora.
Or are you not claiming you are a nice guy? because if you're more than happy to admit you're a sexist pig, or just a general arsehole then the test is irrelevant to you. It's only for the surprising amount of fellas who believe they are being passed over because they are so 'Nice' when actually it is possible they are, as CatPower83 said, misogynistic jerks.0 -
as for the test i failed right off the bat on the "leg shaving" question.
but to be clear i feel men and women are obligated to groom themselves. 0 -
whats this nice guy quiz i couldn't find it. thank you
ps someone want to fill me in on what a fedora is i have no clue thanks again
It's a hat0 -
whats this nice guy quiz i couldn't find it. thank you
ps someone want to fill me in on what a fedora is i have no clue thanks again
Just copy and paste the link and then scroll down a bit, it's like a flowchart: http://niceguysofokc.tumblr.com/page/5
a fedora is a hat. People who think they're cool wear them. Some of those people are actually cool. Some of them are actually looking a little silly. The fedora thing is just to maintain the comedy.
Just to be clear, these are real men on a real dating website. Just in case you weren't already depressed.0 -
I am so tired of the phrase "friend zone" for this exact reason!0
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as for the test i failed right off the bat on the "leg shaving" question. but to be clear i feel men and women are obligated to groom themselves.
It's more the issue that it is expected, and from someone you haven't met yet. Rather than something that you both believe in as a couple. Shaving both of your entire legs every day is alot more work than shaving your face or whatever, so the expectations on women to be well-groomed are, quite frankly, ridiculous and unfair/unequal.
Also, have you claimed you are a nice guy? if not, then this test is irrelevant to you.
In case you hadn't noticed, for quite a number of the men on the website who answered that question as you did, it doesn't appear that grooming is their top priority...
I'm more disturbed by the sexual expectations these jerks have.0 -
as for the test i failed right off the bat on the "leg shaving" question. but to be clear i feel men and women are obligated to groom themselves.
It's more the issue that it is expected, and from someone you haven't met yet. Rather than something that you both believe in as a couple. Shaving both of your entire legs every day is alot more work than shaving your face or whatever, so the expectations on women to be well-groomed are, quite frankly, ridiculous and unfair/unequal.
Also, have you claimed you are a nice guy? if not, then this test is irrelevant to you.
In case you hadn't noticed, for quite a number of the men on the website who answered that question as you did, it doesn't appear that grooming is their top priority...
I'm more disturbed by the sexual expectations these jerks have.
guys groom more than just their face.
maybe obligated is the wrong word.
and yeah the guys that said girls were obligated to have sex with them was pretty scary. and on top of that they were dumb enough to answer the question.0 -
as for the test i failed right off the bat on the "leg shaving" question. but to be clear i feel men and women are obligated to groom themselves.
It's more the issue that it is expected, and from someone you haven't met yet. Rather than something that you both believe in as a couple. Shaving both of your entire legs every day is alot more work than shaving your face or whatever, so the expectations on women to be well-groomed are, quite frankly, ridiculous and unfair/unequal.
Also, have you claimed you are a nice guy? if not, then this test is irrelevant to you.
In case you hadn't noticed, for quite a number of the men on the website who answered that question as you did, it doesn't appear that grooming is their top priority...
I'm more disturbed by the sexual expectations these jerks have.
Personal vendetta against men like me that have standards? I have no desire to sleep next to a chimp, I took care of myself and I expect my future wife to do the same not only physically but mentally and career wise as well.
The term "Nice" guy is subjective and to be honest if I knew you in person I would find your attitude very insulting as you yourself come across as a sexist pig trying to downplay men giving honest answers.0 -
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guys groom more than just their face. maybe obligated is the wrong word.
and yeah the guys that said girls were obligated to have sex with them was pretty scary. and on top of that they were dumb enough to answer the question.
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Most men who are into grooming are still not grooming as much as women are into grooming, but yes, i take your point, although the actual point is the word 'obligated'. it is upsetting.
'dumb' enough is actually not true, it is ****ing DISTURBING that any man does or thinks anything like that, but we know unfortunately they do, or there would be no rape or sexual harassment in the world. I guess they figured they were hiding in some sort of anonymous internet hole, alot of them wouldn't even know they'd made it to that blog. Or they think those attitudes are acceptable. If there are that many men thinking that **** is ok, then i'd rather it be out in the open and addressed rather than guys 'pretending' they don't believe in rape in ANY circumstances, but secretly thinking there are some situations where it is fine.
Just to be clear to all you 'nice' guys, unwanted and ongoing sexual behaviour is NEVER EVER ok. EVER. Don't do it. Ever. Even if you think you 'got away with it' you didn't. If she wasn't ok with it in any way, you committed a crime and violated a human being and she knows what you did.0 -
guys groom more than just their face. maybe obligated is the wrong word.
and yeah the guys that said girls were obligated to have sex with them was pretty scary. and on top of that they were dumb enough to answer the question.
Most men who are into grooming are still not grooming as much as women are into grooming, but yes, i take your point, although the actual point is the word 'obligated'. it is upsetting.
'dumb' enough is actually not true, it is ****ing DISTURBING that any man does or thinks anything like that, but we know unfortunately they do, or there would be no rape or sexual harassment in the world. I guess they figured they were hiding in some sort of anonymous internet hole, alot of them wouldn't even know they'd made it to that blog. Or they think those attitudes are acceptable. If there are that many men thinking that **** is ok, then i'd rather it be out in the open and addressed rather than guys 'pretending' they don't believe in rape in ANY circumstances, but secretly thinking there are some situations where it is fine.
Just to be clear to all you 'nice' guys, unwanted and ongoing sexual behaviour is NEVER EVER ok. EVER. Don't do it. Ever. Even if you think you 'got away with it' you didn't. If she wasn't ok with it in any way, you committed a crime and violated a human being and she knows what you did.
Woman rape and sexual harass as well...just so you know.
So this concludes that OP should back off from the keyboard right about now and have the thread locked and burnt into ashes as the topic is not even relevant to fitness or the men on this site. If you however were subjected to any ill treatment from a member on this site then I would suggest you contact Mike and have it sorted....0 -
as for the test i failed right off the bat on the "leg shaving" question. but to be clear i feel men and women are obligated to groom themselves.
It's more the issue that it is expected, and from someone you haven't met yet. Rather than something that you both believe in as a couple. Shaving both of your entire legs every day is alot more work than shaving your face or whatever, so the expectations on women to be well-groomed are, quite frankly, ridiculous and unfair/unequal.
Also, have you claimed you are a nice guy? if not, then this test is irrelevant to you.
In case you hadn't noticed, for quite a number of the men on the website who answered that question as you did, it doesn't appear that grooming is their top priority...
I'm more disturbed by the sexual expectations these jerks have.
Personal vendetta against men like me that have standards? I have no desire to sleep next to a chimp, I took care of myself and I expect my future wife to do the same not only physically but mentally and career wise as well.
The term "Nice" guy is subjective and to be honest if I knew you in person I would find your attitude very insulting as you yourself come across as a sexist pig trying to downplay men giving honest answers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I don't know if you actually looked at the blog, but i wouldn't say that many of these men are prioritising their appearance as you apparently do. I wouldn't want you to sleep next to a chimp either, so i hope you are dating humans.
Speaking of humans, these answers are disturbing BECAUSE they're honest. It's not a questionnaire for the greater good of humanity and science, it's a dating website. Most humans should have human decency- and that is not expecting that women give them sex for being nice guys; women dehair their ENTIRE bodies because this guy might shave his face and possibly wax his butt occasionally; and being phobic in general is actually just plain wrong.
How foes one define NICE? Are you saying you are NICE and women reject you for it? Because that is the point of the entire blog, and why it is funny. If you are not saying this, then it is not relevant to you. I am not doubting there are female equivalents to this 'nice guy' syndrome (although i doubt any of them are demanding sex as a 'prize' for being 'nice').
You sound like an idiot, so i will no longer engage with you on this topic. It will just be embarrassing for you.0 -
guys groom more than just their face. maybe obligated is the wrong word.
and yeah the guys that said girls were obligated to have sex with them was pretty scary. and on top of that they were dumb enough to answer the question.
Most men who are into grooming are still not grooming as much as women are into grooming, but yes, i take your point, although the actual point is the word 'obligated'. it is upsetting.
'dumb' enough is actually not true, it is ****ing DISTURBING that any man does or thinks anything like that, but we know unfortunately they do, or there would be no rape or sexual harassment in the world. I guess they figured they were hiding in some sort of anonymous internet hole, alot of them wouldn't even know they'd made it to that blog. Or they think those attitudes are acceptable. If there are that many men thinking that **** is ok, then i'd rather it be out in the open and addressed rather than guys 'pretending' they don't believe in rape in ANY circumstances, but secretly thinking there are some situations where it is fine.
Just to be clear to all you 'nice' guys, unwanted and ongoing sexual behaviour is NEVER EVER ok. EVER. Don't do it. Ever. Even if you think you 'got away with it' you didn't. If she wasn't ok with it in any way, you committed a crime and violated a human being and she knows what you did.
Woman rape and sexual harass as well...just so you know.
So this concludes that OP should back off from the keyboard right about now and have the thread locked and burnt into ashes as the topic is not even relevant to fitness or the men on this site. If you however were subjected to any ill treatment from a member on this site then I would suggest you contact Mike and have it sorted....
Actually, i posted this in the 'general chit chat' area, where i have noticed an astounding amount of topics not relevant to health or fitness. I have also noticed many people posting somewhat sensitive topics, and getting attacked for it- or even harmless topics.
This is not personal for me, i found it amusing and slightly disturbing. others also seemed to find it funny. i found it more disturbing seeing some of the responses such as your own, prompting me to respond as i have.
I hope your close, personal friendship with Mike makes you feel better, and i dearly hope you can get this topic shut down before it's too late!!!!!0 -
I am so tired of the phrase "friend zone" for this exact reason!
I never heard it before i was LMAO at this blog!! Ah dear, sometimes you got to laugh.0 -
GuysOfOKC is amazing and sad all at once. Do these guys think that their female friends are machines, and if they put friendship coins in then some sex will fall out?! "I'm a NiceGuy, but I will judge you if you don't shave your legs or if you refuse to sleep with me. I'm entitled to some sex." - if you think that, then you're not a nice guy, you're a misogynist pig who wouldn't know what to do with a girlfriend even if he could get one.
Love it! One of my favourite responses on the blog is this:
"help i think i might be one of those "nice guys" and i dont even mean to. i know its not a good thing to be like this. WHAT DO I DO?"
Anonymous
"wash the cheeto dust off your hands and stop expecting sex and/or praise for basic human decency.
I believe in you friend there is hope for you yet!"0 -
Take a break, have some coffee and perhaps enjoy some chocolate cake as well and then return with a better mindset before attempting the "Self Righteous" attitude with me.
PS - Don't forget to log it though...
On a serious note...OP I understand where you are coming from but do realize we are all but human...we all have flaws and some of us still need to experience life before being mature enough to make rational decisions. I have seen people get married time and time again at a young age only to get divorced 10 years later as they grew as person and realize what they really want out of life.
I am 25 so having a high sex drive it is obvious I would be more focused on the visual aspect of a woman and after spending years together I would become attached and love her in a much deeper level then I wouldn't even care if her breasts were dragging behind her.
However at your age I would expect much more of you than attacking us all on site, you chose this platform and I am challenging you into a debate...not getting personal and calling you names.
As for being the "Nice" guy...what is it? Being the doormat or the fact of respecting someone?0 -
Okcupid has quite a few poorly worded questions (as a majority are user submitted)
If it were worded "I prefer women with shaved legs." there would likely be no issue.
While someone can choose to skip questions, it still contains the same core idea.
The expected sex thing I can't think of a rational rewording or a mistaken idea. Meh.
Also sort of concerned how a person's religious beliefs make them a not-nice-guy.
(abortion, homosexuality, etc.)
But meh.0 -
Take a break, have some coffee and perhaps enjoy some chocolate cake as well and then return with a better mindset before attempting the "Self Righteous" attitude with me.
PS - Don't forget to log it though...
On a serious note...OP I understand where you are coming from but do realize we are all but human...we all have flaws and some of us still need to experience life before being mature enough to make rational decisions. I have seen people get married time and time again at a young age only to get divorced 10 years later as they grew as person and realize what they really want out of life.
I am 25 so having a high sex drive it is obvious I would be more focused on the visual aspect of a woman and after spending years together I would become attached and love her in a much deeper level then I wouldn't even care if her breasts were dragging behind her.
However at your age I would expect much more of you than attacking us all on site, you chose this platform and I am challenging you into a debate...not getting personal and calling you names.
As for being the "Nice" guy...what is it? Being the doormat or the fact of respecting someone?
You actually seemed to feel very attacked, you were quite angry as your previous responses made very clear, and as i said prompting me to respond as i did. You didn't sound very intelligent in those responses, again prompting me to respond as i did. And i did also feel angry, because you were missing the point, and speaking about women as being 'apes' if they don't shave their legs every single day to please you.
I am a strong debater, so apologies for shooting you down in flames, and you feeling like i needed to cool off when perhaps it was yourself feeling very personally attacked. I do not like it when people make throwaway remarks about rape and sexual harassment, i feel i need to make it very clear that none of that is ok. And while, yes, i am aware that women do this too, the statistics are heavily in favour of men being the main perpetrators of sexual violence. Heavily. But i was in no way saying ALL men do this, i was responding directly to comments people posted.
However this if off the point of the original post, so let me explain again:
I never attacked men, the topic doesn't attack men, it is a link to a blog where men who continually go on about how nice they are turn out to not be so 'nice' by their clear responses on a dating website. they are contradicting themselves. it is humorous. i'm sure there is a female equivalent but i happen to be a straight female and therefore this is the website in regards to dating men that was sent to me.
I found it amusing because i regularly see men post topics on MFP in this exact 'chitchat' section about how nice they are, but the chicks only want to be friends with them, and they seem to think it is because 'women only want to go out with dbags'. As though they should be rewarded for being nice, which in fact is not nice behaviour. they can feel sad for themselves, but perhaps, as the blog makes clear, there may be other reasons as to why women you want to sleep with don't want to sleep with you, and those reasons are clearly evident in the contradictory responses. such as maybe you aren't as 'nice' as you thought you were.
The questions are directly from the dating website.
If you have never seen the website or did not get the point of the blog, then i am sorry you were offended.0 -
I don't need a website to tell me how much of a *kitten* I am0
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TLDR, but I think I need a shower to clean this thread off of me all the same0
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Okcupid has quite a few poorly worded questions (as a majority are user submitted)
If it were worded "I prefer women with shaved legs." there would likely be no issue.
While someone can choose to skip questions, it still contains the same core idea.
The expected sex thing I can't think of a rational rewording or a mistaken idea. Meh.
Also sort of concerned how a person's religious beliefs make them a not-nice-guy.
(abortion, homosexuality, etc.)
But meh.
This is true about the poor wording of the questions.
However the point is still the same, the blogger (and posters) are saying that, actually perhaps you are being rejected because you yourself are being unrealistic in your expectations of women. And yes, perhaps they are rejecting you because they don't care if you think they should shave their legs, or don't like that you are a homophobe. Not because you are just so damn nice!
It is not saying you ARE definitely NOT nice because of this, but perhaps you aren't so nice as you think you are. It's not a scientific study. The real point is wanting to be rewarded for being nice is an exact contradiction of being a nice person. People who are truly nice just get on with the business of being nice- comforting their friends when they are upset, for one, and not expecting anything for it.
Anyway, it's meant to be funny. I'm glad at least a couple of other people found it to be so.0
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