ALL OF GEORGE BAILEY'S PROBLEMS ARE DUE TO MARY!
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nope
his brother. Duh.
On another note. Just watched it for the very first time last week.
I agree. Mary had NOTHING to do with his dad's death. His brother is the reason that he was deaf in one ear, and George also spent all his savings sending his brother through school.Mary is his whole world and the reason that his life is so wonderful, in spite of everything bad.
Also, let's not forget Uncle Billy! OMG!
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It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.0 -
Thats not very CHRISTMAS-SEY! What the heck movie is this?0
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It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.
He had the tickets in his hand and was out the door! Then Mary makes a wish and his father ups and dies, therefore trapping him at the B&L.0 -
nope
his brother. Duh.
On another note. Just watched it for the very first time last week.
I agree. Mary had NOTHING to do with his dad's death. His brother is the reason that he was deaf in one ear, and George also spent all his savings sending his brother through school.Mary is his whole world and the reason that his life is so wonderful, in spite of everything bad.
Also, let's not forget Uncle Billy! OMG!
But you are forgetting that without Mary's wish George would have gone to college and then left that town. I am not exonerating any of the other fools in that town who took advantage of George but it was that one moment when Mary made that wish that led to all of the other issues. He was doing fine with only hearing in one ear.
No, Mary's wish would have come through differently. Uncle Billy is the one who lost the $8k! George stayed at the building and loan because of who *HE* is as a person. If he were selfish, then he would have went off with Mary on a grand honeymoon. Mary's wish did not cause any problems, only joy and a lifetime of happiness.0 -
Nope, the fault all falls on George. He should not have told Mary about the whole breaking the windows thing. He has no one to blame but himself.
True, we are all responsible for our own choices. And George's choices actually led him to a blessed life.0 -
It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.
He had the tickets in his hand and was out the door! Then Mary makes a wish and his father ups and dies, therefore trapping him at the B&L.
Mary did *NOT* wish his father to be dead. Where are you coming up with this? Were you stoned when you watched this yesterday? :laugh:0 -
nope
his brother. Duh.
On another note. Just watched it for the very first time last week.
I agree. Mary had NOTHING to do with his dad's death. His brother is the reason that he was deaf in one ear, and George also spent all his savings sending his brother through school.Mary is his whole world and the reason that his life is so wonderful, in spite of everything bad.
Also, let's not forget Uncle Billy! OMG!
But you are forgetting that without Mary's wish George would have gone to college and then left that town. I am not exonerating any of the other fools in that town who took advantage of George but it was that one moment when Mary made that wish that led to all of the other issues. He was doing fine with only hearing in one ear.
No, Mary's wish would have come through differently. Uncle Billy is the one who lost the $8k! George stayed at the building and loan because of who *HE* is as a person. If he were selfish, then he would have went off with Mary on a grand honeymoon. Mary's wish did not cause any problems, only joy and a lifetime of happiness.
Mary's wish was that they would live together in that broken down house. In order to get to that point, fate needed to get George in charge of the building and loan, which it did by killing his father, then it needed to keep him in town so fate had a bank run in order to have them miss their honeymoon. That is the only way they got into that house. Heck, it was George's ear that kept him out of WW2, further preventing him from leaving that town. George was a prisoner to Mary's wish!0 -
It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.
He had the tickets in his hand and was out the door! Then Mary makes a wish and his father ups and dies, therefore trapping him at the B&L.
Mary did *NOT* wish his father to be dead. Where are you coming up with this? Were you stoned when you watched this yesterday? :laugh:
I didn't say that Mary wished for the father to die but, as we all know, wishes have a cost. The way for fate to answer Mary's wish was to kill George's father so he would have to stay in town.0 -
I agree. Awful movie. :devil:0
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You're missing the point. It's not about his "problems". Everyone has problems that are as bad or worse than those in the life of George Bailey. The movie is about finding contentment and happiness in the life you've been given, even if it didn't turn out exactly the way you had planned.
"For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content." ~ I Timothy 6:7-8
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have."
“It is better to want what you have than to have what you want.”
FYI: I'm sure you're just being silly, but this has been on my mind alot lately...learning to be content and happy with the blessings I've been given, rather than always moaning and complaining about what I don't have.
So the message is to be happy regardless of how many people screw you over? Then shouldn't Mary get some sort of visitor for making such a self-centered wish?
Hmmmm...so it's okay for him to dream about trotting around the world all by himself (which may make him happy for a while, but would likely only make him tired and lonely after while), but it's selfish for her to want to settle down and start a family with the man she has loved since childhood? Why would it be okay for him to actually make plans for the life he wants, but not for her to merely wish for the life she would like to have. By the way, SHE is the one who volunteered to give up her honeymoon fund to help her husband out of a jam, and SHE gave up a life of wealth (Sam Wainwright wanted to marry her) because she knew that love was more important than money. Oh, and you wanna talk about selfish wishes? How about HIS wish that he had never been born. If he had never existed, his little brother would have died as a little boy and hundreds of men would have died because he wouldn't have been around to save them. If he had never existed, his uncle would have gone to prison and George's father's legacy would have been lost because George would not have been there to make things right. That's just the tip of the iceberg of what would have been lost had George Bailey never been born. Hundreds, likely even thousands, of lives would have been affected for the worse had he never existed, but George had nothing to lose in making that wish. THAT'S truly selfish.0 -
True.... but Mary is HOT!!
Aw thank you !
Signed,
Mary0 -
Maybe, he should have married Annie? She'd be the one to take care of Potter and show him who's BOSS!
Yeah, is anyone else kind of pissed that Potter keeps the $8,000 Uncle Billy accidentally left in the newspaper? I love that SNL skit where they kick his a**.
Edited to add the link: http://www.hulu.com/watch/42670 -
It doesn't matter who's fault it is. This is literally the worst Christmas movie ever. Hell, it's just one of the worst movies period.
Hate the damn thing.0 -
You're missing the point. It's not about his "problems". Everyone has problems that are as bad or worse than those in the life of George Bailey. The movie is about finding contentment and happiness in the life you've been given, even if it didn't turn out exactly the way you had planned.
"For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content." ~ I Timothy 6:7-8
“We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have."
“It is better to want what you have than to have what you want.”
FYI: I'm sure you're just being silly, but this has been on my mind alot lately...learning to be content and happy with the blessings I've been given, rather than always moaning and complaining about what I don't have.
So the message is to be happy regardless of how many people screw you over? Then shouldn't Mary get some sort of visitor for making such a self-centered wish?
Hmmmm...so it's okay for him to dream about trotting around the world all by himself (which may make him happy for a while, but would likely only make him tired and lonely after while), but it's selfish for her to want to settle down and start a family with the man she has loved since childhood? Why would it be okay for him to actually make plans for the life he wants, but not for her to merely wish for the life she would like to have. By the way, SHE is the one who volunteered to give up her honeymoon fund to help her husband out of a jam, and SHE gave up a life of wealth (Sam Wainwright wanted to marry her) because she knew that love was more important than money.
That money was George's, which is why he gave it to her and she replied that she feels like a bootleggers wife. Depleting their funds is all part of the plan to keep them in town. It is fine for her to dream of the life she wants but she made her wish immediately after George told her his hopes and dreams. This shows intent and therefore makes it a conscious and jealous act.0 -
too lazy to discuss.
cant we watch A Christmas Story instead?0 -
It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.
He had the tickets in his hand and was out the door! Then Mary makes a wish and his father ups and dies, therefore trapping him at the B&L.
Mary did *NOT* wish his father to be dead. Where are you coming up with this? Were you stoned when you watched this yesterday? :laugh:
I didn't say that Mary wished for the father to die but, as we all know, wishes have a cost. The way for fate to answer Mary's wish was to kill George's father so he would have to stay in town.
I think you are really stretching to make that assumption.0 -
Maybe, he should have married Annie? She'd be the one to take care of Potter and show him who's BOSS!
Yeah, is anyone else kind of pissed that Potter keeps the $8,000 Uncle Billy accidentally left in the newspaper? I love that SNL skit where they kick his a**.
Edited to add the link: http://www.hulu.com/watch/4267
That's how it should have ended. That was great!0 -
The whole time I'm watching the movie I'm wanting George to dump Mary and get it on with the skanky Violet Bick... but that's just me.Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.0 -
Clark Griswald and George Bailey should both get divorced and become roomates.0
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It was dumb *kitten* Uncle Billy who lost all the money and George chose between the bank and his honeymoon. Why would George let him handle any money at all?
But George would not have been working at the Building and Loan if Mary had not made that wish. He would have been out in the world.
Maybe, but maybe that's a pipe dream. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you'll succeed.
He had a job and a lovely family. Mary isn't to blame for his problems. No one is to blame but him. He made his own decisions.
I HATE this movie.
He had the tickets in his hand and was out the door! Then Mary makes a wish and his father ups and dies, therefore trapping him at the B&L.
Mary did *NOT* wish his father to be dead. Where are you coming up with this? Were you stoned when you watched this yesterday? :laugh:
I didn't say that Mary wished for the father to die but, as we all know, wishes have a cost. The way for fate to answer Mary's wish was to kill George's father so he would have to stay in town.
I think you are really stretching to make that assumption.
I disagree. It is not a stretch to read the implications of actions.0 -
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It doesn't matter who's fault it is. This is literally the worst Christmas movie ever. Hell, it's just one of the worst movies period.
Hate the damn thing.
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The whole time I'm watching the movie I'm wanting George to dump Mary and get it on with the skanky Violet Bick... but that's just me.Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.
Why didn't Violet ever get with Sam Wainwright? Would have solved her problems, but maybe he was set on being a confirmed bachelor if he couldn't have Mary.0 -
The whole time I'm watching the movie I'm wanting George to dump Mary and get it on with the skanky Violet Bick... but that's just me.Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.
Why didn't Violet ever get with Sam Wainwright? Would have solved her problems, but maybe he was set on being a confirmed bachelor if he couldn't have Mary.
Sam Wainwright did get married. They were going to drive town to Florida but had to swing by to tell George how much money he didn't have.0 -
The whole time I'm watching the movie I'm wanting George to dump Mary and get it on with the skanky Violet Bick... but that's just me.Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.
Why didn't Violet ever get with Sam Wainwright? Would have solved her problems, but maybe he was set on being a confirmed bachelor if he couldn't have Mary.
Sam Wainwright did get married. They were going to drive town to Florida but had to swing by to tell George how much money he didn't have.
Oh, right, I forgot about that! I remembered it as his showing up with some girl but not that it was his fiancee. Still, he should have gotten with Violet.0 -
The whole time I'm watching the movie I'm wanting George to dump Mary and get it on with the skanky Violet Bick... but that's just me.Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.
Why didn't Violet ever get with Sam Wainwright? Would have solved her problems, but maybe he was set on being a confirmed bachelor if he couldn't have Mary.
Sam Wainwright did get married. They were going to drive town to Florida but had to swing by to tell George how much money he didn't have.
Oh, right, I forgot about that! I remembered it as his showing up with some girl but not that it was his fiancee. Still, he should have gotten with Violet.
I'm sure that occurred at some point.0 -
always blame the woman.. it will end well...just watch :devil: :devil: :devil:0
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Ahh, going with the whole "wishing makes it so" theory...it's the movies, after all, right?
Really, all of George Bailey's problems are the writers' faults. If they hadn't written the movie, there would be no problems for George at all!0 -
Think about it, he had all of these hopes and dreams to travel the world and build cities. Once he told her this, she threw a rock and wished that they would live in that house together in the town where he didn't want to be. Then, immediately, his father has a stroke and dies. This starts the cycle of entrapment which leads to his attempted suicide.
awful movie.
women... you can't live with 'em... pass the beer nuts.
:bigsmile:0
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