Has anyone else red 50 Shades of Grey?

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  • devilwhiterose
    devilwhiterose Posts: 1,157 Member
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    Book 1 was good, 2 was "meh", and 3 took me forever to read because it sucked so bad.

    The writing was terrible. And I hate that she referred to him as "her fifty" Who the hell references someone like that. (bangs head)

    I'd pull a can of whoop *kitten* if I was told I had to check in, have a bodyguard, and not go anywhere I please.

    Pfft.

    I just liked the smut parts. My husband was very happy too. Bahahaha
  • Emma_Problema
    Emma_Problema Posts: 422 Member
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    I think everyone's comments are funny. BDSM does exist in real life and you can incorporate it into your love life even if its just light hair pulling and spanking. No big deal, some people shouldn't act like it's completely unobtainable. Just ask the person you are with to do it!

    I personally read all 3 and loved them and can't wait for the movie.

    Nobody said that BDSM was bad, just that it was used badly.

    "Light hair pulling" and "spanking" is not BDSM.

    I disagree. BDSM is what you make it. I practice a rather extreme form of BDSM in my current relationship and spanking and light hair pulling seem silly, but that doesn't give me the right to piss on someone else's view of BDSM...and you don't have that right either. Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism. Hair pulling = S&M and domination. Spanking = S&M. By definition it's BDSM.
  • hbrittingham
    hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
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    fifty-shades-of-chicken.jpg

    My son gave me this book for Christmas (I've never read 50 Shades of Grey). It's a funny book with some yummy recipes in it.
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member
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    "Light hair pulling" and "spanking" is not BDSM.

    I disagree. BDSM is what you make it. I practice a rather extreme form of BDSM in my current relationship and spanking and light hair pulling seem silly, but that doesn't give me the right to piss on someone else's view of BDSM...and you don't have that right either. Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism. Hair pulling = S&M and domination. Spanking = S&M. By definition it's BDSM.

    Agree.
  • bearkisses
    bearkisses Posts: 1,252 Member
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    romatic, abusive

    tomato, tamato
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
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    romatic, abusive

    tomato, tamato

    This is why the pick-up artists' how-to novel that I wrote is called "Robusive: Love is Pain, Highness; Anyone Who Says Differently Is Selling A Book On How To Pick Up Women."
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member
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    I actually wrote a research paper on how much dominating behavior is present in Harlequin novels.

    Much more than you would think!
  • fit_spired_vicky
    fit_spired_vicky Posts: 152
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    Try Harper Lee, John Steinbeck, Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway, Louisa May Alcott, Nathaniel Hawthorne, E.B. White and hell I'd take Stephen King over 50 Shades and most the garbage out now.
    What kind of stuff do they write?


    Oh, now its all clear.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    OK, serious question here (and for the record, if there is a typo it's because for some reason on my work computer, the keyboard is way ahead of the screen and I end up skipping letters and don't always notice, thus the happy but accidental typo in the thread title):

    I see a lot of people criticize 50 Shades for things like abusive/controlling behavior and then they recommend Anne Rice. Well, on those recommendations, I bought The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty and I have to say, while the writing is certainly better, the theme of the book is pretty awful. I mean, it opens with a RAPE of a 15-year-old, unconscious girl. And she doesn't exactly give her consent to anything that happens.

    I got about 100 pages in and had to stop reading. It's a pretty horrifying story and if that is what "real" BDSM is about, I have to wonder why anyone would be involved in it if you have any self-respect???
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
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    "Real" BDSM is as far away from Rape as is humanly possible. A prerequisite of BDSM is consent. Anything else is abuse or rape or assault etc.

    edited to add: In a BDSM context there can be no domination without submission.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    "Real" BDSM is as far away from Rape as is humanly possible. A prerequisite of BDSM is consent. Anything else is abuse or rape or assault etc.

    edited to add: In a BDSM context there can be no domination without submission.
    That has always been my understanding. But a lot of people who claim to be in the BDSM community say that the Anne Rice books are a good representation of it. I expected something VERY different when I started that book.
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
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    Have no problem with the BDSM/erotic literature aspect.

    However I will never read FSOG because the one thing I DON'T want to see hogtied, whipped, beaten, abused and totally and utterly f-cked is what society now apparently labels a 'literature'

    It's 'Venus in Furs for people who hate books. C'mon guys.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
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    That has always been my understanding. But a lot of people who claim to be in the BDSM community say that the Anne Rice books are a good representation of it. I expected something VERY different when I started that book.

    I guess I've never heard any of my 'scene' friends hold out a novel. But to Mutant's point - yeah, Venus in Furs for people who hate books, when Venus in Furs was a pretty crummy novel itself :-)
  • scs143
    scs143 Posts: 2,190 Member
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    I thought 2013 was going to be a better year. We aren't off to a good start.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    That has always been my understanding. But a lot of people who claim to be in the BDSM community say that the Anne Rice books are a good representation of it. I expected something VERY different when I started that book.

    I guess I've never heard any of my 'scene' friends hold out a novel. But to Mutant's point - yeah, Venus in Furs for people who hate books, when Venus in Furs was a pretty crummy novel itself :-)
    I just saw it mentioned a lot here in threads about 50 Shades and also a couple times on Facebook.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
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    It was written by a guy named Sacher-Masoch after whom masochism is named. I think it's the first literary instance of sexualized masochism, but it sort of ends poorly with a scene of brutal and ultimate cuckoldry that leaves the protagonist unfulfilled. The outside of the frame goes back to him being old and not over her, and saying effectively that men must never submit to women, as women will never be happy with anything but a dominant man; and then he has some teeniebopper wife doting on him whom he treats like crap.
  • Elzecat
    Elzecat Posts: 2,916 Member
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    If its so bad, why was it such a best seller? I don't get it.

    I've thought about reading just for research. But, then I read reviews and I don't want to waste my time. Why do bad reviews and sales not match up?

    Peer pressure, media exposure and decline in quality education. Just look at all the people buying Dr. Oz suggested products. Also, take a look at the grammar and spelling on social media sites like this. The book got media attention, so people wanted to see what it was about. Many of them think it's good because they really don't understand quality literature.
    You mean, like, VC Andrews books?

    Try Harper Lee, John Steinbeck, Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway, Louisa May Alcott, Nathaniel Hawthorne, E.B. White and hell I'd take Stephen King over 50 Shades and most the garbage out now.
    What kind of stuff do they write?

    If you seriously have to ask that, then your high school English teachers should be working in another field.

    :drinker:
  • disneygallagirl
    disneygallagirl Posts: 515 Member
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    if you like 50 Shades, you will probably like Bared to You.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    It was written by a guy named Sacher-Masoch after whom masochism is named. I think it's the first literary instance of sexualized masochism, but it sort of ends poorly with a scene of brutal and ultimate cuckoldry that leaves the protagonist unfulfilled. The outside of the frame goes back to him being old and not over her, and saying effectively that men must never submit to women, as women will never be happy with anything but a dominant man; and then he has some teeniebopper wife doting on him whom he treats like crap.
    I meant the Sleeping Beauty books. This is the first mention I've seen of the Venus book.
  • Emma_Problema
    Emma_Problema Posts: 422 Member
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    That has always been my understanding. But a lot of people who claim to be in the BDSM community say that the Anne Rice books are a good representation of it. I expected something VERY different when I started that book.

    I guess I've never heard any of my 'scene' friends hold out a novel. But to Mutant's point - yeah, Venus in Furs for people who hate books, when Venus in Furs was a pretty crummy novel itself :-)

    You call them 'scene' friends? I call them the dirty perverts that I associate with. On fet and IRL on occasion. But nontheless, my dirty pervert friends. I hate the idea of the "BDSM scene".

    Also, no clue about Anne Rice. But I'm also a big fan of either doing or watching. Real life and porn are enough for me. Literotica is kind of strange to me. I have a perfectly fine imagination on my own.

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