i feel like starting a debate. (no disrespect please)

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  • Religion doesn't save us,Christ crucified and being resurrected for
    The salvation of our souls does. No amount of knowledge is more
    Important than that simple fact.
  • 4_Lisa
    4_Lisa Posts: 362 Member
    Here's my 2 cents worth.

    I think it would be great to teach (in public schools) some type of "comparative religion" class- not teaching religion per se, but teaching "about" different religions. That way we could all understand each other better. I am lucky to have friends who are of different religious beliefs - including devout Jews, devout Muslims, devout Evangelical Protestants, and avowed atheists. (I am Catholic.) I think it's good to talk to each other and learn from each other!

    My daughter attends a Catholic school, and many of the students aren't actually Catholic. They teach more of the theology behine certain religions and teach about multiple religions rather than just Chrisianity
  • nikinyx6
    nikinyx6 Posts: 772 Member
    I think a 'Religion Ed." class would be a great idea, learn about ALL religions and faiths, and not force or promote any of them
  • terrappyn
    terrappyn Posts: 324 Member
    Religion is like genitalia... it's fine if you have it, but don't play with it in public, and keep it out of my family's faces.

    Hilarious!!!!
  • rompers16
    rompers16 Posts: 5,404 Member
    Religion is like genitalia... it's fine if you have it, but don't play with it in public, and keep it out of my family's faces.

    This
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    This country was founded on "In God We Trust", it's on our money. To the non-believers I'm sorry you have to go through this.

    Hahaha good job sir! That made me laugh!
  • So the topic of religion In schools is becoming more popular among many people (specificly christians from what I have seen. My stance is, "keep it out of schools, its highly disrespectful to people who are not one particualar religion". I would like to know where everyone stands on this subject, just for fun. Again, please refrain from being rude to one another
    Sincerely,
    Your favorite agnostic

    I agree with you. Schools are not the place for religion of any kind.

    Fellow agnostic
  • AnewTif
    AnewTif Posts: 26
    I don't mind some amount of religion, i.e. if they want to set a 2 minute period to reflect or pray. I don't mind my son learning about other religions, but I don't think religion should be taught in school unless it is a private school.

    I know that when I was in elementary school and we had the Christmas program we sang "Silent Night" and "Hark the Herald" in the Christmas program but we also sang The Dreidl Song. They were part of the Season's celebrations and I don't really have an issue with that, but now those songs are BANNED at schools. LOL

    I think people spend too much time worrying about Religion in schools and not enough time worrying about their child's education. That is far more important to me. I am all up in my son's teacher's business when it comes to my son's progress. That is FAR more important to me on whether or not my son's teacher is teaching about religion.

    The only thing I have interfered on is when I wrote a note to his teacher after the Sandy Hook shooting and told him that we did not discuss this with our son as we don't feel he is emotionally mature enough to handle it and would appreciate it not being brought up in class. I also called the Principal about that.
  • dirtnap63
    dirtnap63 Posts: 1,387 Member
    I would like to know where everyone stands on this subject, just for fun.

    I do not believe that religion should be in state run/government funded schools. The government should not be associated with any religion.

    Private schools however, sure. If people want to pay to send their kids to a religious school, I am sure their god will provide.

    "I do not believe Nike-branded (or any brand) clothing should be in state run/government funded schools. The government should not be associated with any product."

    If you are going to make a logic argument...think it through.

    When did the government start using tax dollars to hand out Nike apparel, and why haven't I received any?
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    No religion in school. Simple as that.

    If parents want their kids to be involved in religion then as parents they can teach them or take them to church.
  • perfectingpatti
    perfectingpatti Posts: 1,037 Member
    seriously people! this is a fitness site. this is not a site for political or religious debates. it's bad enough dealing with that baloney in real life. why do you insist on bringing it in here?
    Agreed.

    Love this. These are quotes by two people who participate in far more than fitness discussions here.
  • melsmith612
    melsmith612 Posts: 727 Member
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  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    In before the lock AND in before the "INB4 lock" guy! Ha!

    You have to let us know what side of the fence you stand on too though.
  • I prefer it in schools. At the school I attended they had religion in school, but in a club rather than a whole school organization. That way it appeases both parties. If you were atheist you simply did not go to that group, you'd go to which ever you joined before class or after and if not you just stayed home, while people that chose to went to school early or stayed after class and did. I personally never attended the clubs as I was just overall Anti-school lol. I did however say prayers whenever I felt. I have several atheist friends in which I didn't care if they believed in god or not (which ironically out of the 10 known atheist friends I have had all but 3 now believe in god weird) and they were okay with me believing in god. Now they would crack religious Jokes, which never bothered me because I am a fan of humor and comedy. I myself cracked a few. If people aren't comfortable enough to joke then they have problems. Those that judge atheists are being bad christians themselves for only god can judge people. I am cool with all walks of life.
  • sizzle74
    sizzle74 Posts: 858 Member
    people! this is a fitness site. this is not a site for political or religious debates. it's bad enough dealing with that baloney in real life. why do you insist on bringing it in here?



    This^^ mixed with "I want to start a debate no disrespect please"=best.thread.ever.
  • perfectingpatti
    perfectingpatti Posts: 1,037 Member
    I think a 'Religion Ed." class would be a great idea, learn about ALL religions and faiths, and not force or promote any of them

    The problem is finding a teacher who is qualified to do a decent job educationg on ALL religions. Personally, I don't want my children being taught religion by anyone other than a theologian. So, even as a Catholic, I support not teaching religion in public schools.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    I think everyone should be forced to pray at gunpoint.
  • AnewTif
    AnewTif Posts: 26
    I prefer it in schools. At the school I attended they had religion in school, but in a club rather than a whole school organization. That way it appeases both parties. If you were atheist you simply did not go to that group, you'd go to which ever you joined before class or after and if not you just stayed home, while people that chose to went to school early or stayed after class and did. I personally never attended the clubs as I was just overall Anti-school lol. I did however say prayers whenever I felt. I have several atheist friends in which I didn't care if they believed in god or not (which ironically out of the 10 known atheist friends I have had all but 3 now believe in god weird) and they were okay with me believing in god. Now they would crack religious Jokes, which never bothered me because I am a fan of humor and comedy. I myself cracked a few. If people aren't comfortable enough to joke then they have problems. Those that judge atheists are being bad christians themselves for only god can judge people. I am cool with all walks of life.

    THIS! I think out of my whole group of friends from High School, I am the only Christian. The rest are non believers or Buddhist.
  • So the topic of religion In schools is becoming more popular among many people (specificly christians from what I have seen. My stance is, "keep it out of schools, its highly disrespectful to people who are not one particualar religion". I would like to know where everyone stands on this subject, just for fun. Again, please refrain from being rude to one another
    Sincerely,
    Your favorite agnostic

    I'd like to say that I identify as a Christian, although I do not go to church. My children pray and believe in God as well... that said, I agree that it is disrespectful to other religions and that it does need to be kept separate. This country is a great mix of cultures and unless we have time to teach and recognize all religions in school, we should recognize none.
  • lorac321
    lorac321 Posts: 614 Member
    I think the actual "teaching" of a certain religion should not be allowed. However, I do believe in the Pledge of Allegiance and I think if a football (or any other) team wants to say a prayer before a game they should be allowed. Again, allowed, not forced.

    My daughter attends a small high school in Washington and they actually offer a class where they teach about different religions. It's an elective and she picked it herself. Although I was raised Catholic I no longer practice. I'm a Christian and even though my daughter attended a Lutheran private school for her primary grades, I leave it up to her as to what she decides to do.

    I honestly believe if we had more of the basic principals of religion on our schools there wouldn't be so much violence.

    This is just MY opinion, and we all know opinions are like *kitten* Holes ~ everybody has them and most of the time they stink.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    seriously people! this is a fitness site. this is not a site for political or religious debates. it's bad enough dealing with that baloney in real life. why do you insist on bringing it in here?
    Agreed.

    Love this. These are quotes by two people who participate in far more than fitness discussions here.

    off topic humor threads are one thing.

    intentionally try to stir up drama to ruin the harmony of the site is quite another.

    you simply can't let politics and religion in your forums without inviting trouble. it's in the rules of the site. yet the OP went ahead and started a thread designed to do just that... start trouble.

    if it were my forum, that would be insta-perma-ban worthy.
  • DontStopB_Leakin
    DontStopB_Leakin Posts: 3,863 Member
    I'm so in.


    Are you in?
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    I think everyone should be forced to pray at gunpoint.

    Good idea... then they get to see the proof that no one answers prayers.
  • Crankstr
    Crankstr Posts: 3,958 Member
    seriously people! this is a fitness site. this is not a site for political or religious debates. it's bad enough dealing with that baloney in real life. why do you insist on bringing it in here?
    Agreed.

    Love this. These are quotes by two people who participate in far more than fitness discussions here.

    off topic humor threads are one thing.



    intentionally try to stir up drama to ruin the harmony of the site is quite another.

    you simply can't let politics and religion in your forums without inviting trouble. it's in the rules of the site. yet the OP went ahead and started a thread designed to do just that... start trouble.

    if it were my forum, that would be insta-perma-ban worthy.

    yep
    or at least a strike
  • I have no problem with religion being left out of schools, but where I do have a problem is that it only seems to be Christianity that is having to be left out. Recently our school board has agreed to allow Sikhs to carry their ceremonial daggers to school and for Muslims to be excused to perform their prayers. I have a big issue with the daggers but whatever, yet Christian children don't get the same treatment of being open with their religion and able to say prayer over their lunch in their cafeteria? Really Come On!

    Do you know a child that's tried to pray and been denied? My 3rd grader prays over lunch every day with no problems.
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member
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    Forgot to tell you that this made my day.
  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    I'm so in.


    Are you in?

    Don't start this again.
  • BeingAwesome247
    BeingAwesome247 Posts: 1,171 Member
    seriously people! this is a fitness site. this is not a site for political or religious debates. it's bad enough dealing with that baloney in real life. why do you insist on bringing it in here?
    Agreed.

    Love this. These are quotes by two people who participate in far more than fitness discussions here.

    off topic humor threads are one thing.

    intentionally try to stir up drama to ruin the harmony of the site is quite another.

    you simply can't let politics and religion in your forums without inviting trouble. it's in the rules of the site. yet the OP went ahead and started a thread designed to do just that... start trouble.

    if it were my forum, that would be insta-perma-ban worthy.

    Then why did you willingly open the thread, then comment THEN check back to comment again?
    Doesn't make a whole lot of sense now does it?
    If it's so offensive, don't participate

    To the OP....this topic is so complex
    from the founding fathers that lets not forget the thousands of natives KILLED if they didn't convert yet they worshiped the sun, the moon, the earth, prayed when they killed animals for food - not sport - etc....
    I believe it's up to the schools to educate our children and up to us PARENTS to teach our children right from wrong
    Taking religion out of schools isn't the problem
  • Erica_theRedhead
    Erica_theRedhead Posts: 724 Member
    Everyone is so overly politically correct now a days. I think it's ridiculous that religion be taken out of schools/government. I don't care if people make a decision not to believe in a religion or God. Why should anyone care if I want to show that I do? Young kids don't need to have a religion class, but decorations or allowing students to pray or sing songs around the holidays should not be discouraged.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    that's waisis

    no, das racist

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