Diet soda
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Not sure what you meant by "quack"... but,
The theme of one of his shows was "How talking to the dead relieves stress."
I kid you not.
Quack.
There's nothing wrong with talking to the dead, and it is very stress relieving to do so.
It's the expecting them to respond that I think is iffy, and I'd be fairly stressed if they actually did it.0 -
I don't do artificial sweetener in anything. No skinny coffee drinks, no diet sodas, no little pink & yellow packets. If you are only having 1 diet soda per day why not just work a "real" soda into your calories for the day and then not worry about the "fake" sugar.
Real soda contains High fructose corn syrup, which is just as controversial a topic as artificial sweeteners.
I personally don't care, either way. I don't like the taste of most diet sodas, so will only drink certain ones, on occasion. I will also drink regular soda, on occasion.0 -
I’m content with prematurely embalming my brain as long as the caffeine still works.0
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live a little. we're all just slowly on the way out anyhow.0
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I don't do artificial sweetener in anything. No skinny coffee drinks, no diet sodas, no little pink & yellow packets. If you are only having 1 diet soda per day why not just work a "real" soda into your calories for the day and then not worry about the "fake" sugar.
Real soda contains High fructose corn syrup, which is just as controversial a topic as artificial sweeteners.
I personally don't care, either way. I don't like the taste of most diet sodas, so will only drink certain ones, on occasion. I will also drink regular soda, on occasion.
If you look long enough you will find soda made with Sugar and not HFCS. Generally the only soda with sugar or HCFS I will touch is there's a Caribbean restaurant in Manchester that makes it's own Ginger beer and it's worth every calorie and every gram of Sugar. After all that's what the double workout is for.0 -
I think if what you are after is a true lifestyle change then it would be wise tobegin the weening process and really focus on sticking to it. Whether it be high fructose syrup or Aspartame ..should either of those really be in your body?
We can make excuses and say we will flush it out with water, or we will put in extra time at the gym or I deserve it I've been good, but, in reality that's all they are, excuses our minds make up to get us off track.0 -
I too am addicted to diet soda. I love it and i was drinking 64-100 oz per day!!! Way too much. Now i replaced that with water and I am allowing myself to indulge in 1-2 glasses per day. I hope to reduce that too once I lose more weight. Good Luck!0
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I have never been addicted to the point of drinking a ton of it a day. I've tried to cut it out completely, but it's just not worth it to me. I know there is a lot of information about how bad it is for you, but I will stick to 1 a day as a treat for myself. Without it, I feel way too much like I'm on a "diet" and am depriving myself.0
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I don't do artificial sweetener in anything. No skinny coffee drinks, no diet sodas, no little pink & yellow packets. If you are only having 1 diet soda per day why not just work a "real" soda into your calories for the day and then not worry about the "fake" sugar.
Real soda contains High fructose corn syrup, which is just as controversial a topic as artificial sweeteners.
I personally don't care, either way. I don't like the taste of most diet sodas, so will only drink certain ones, on occasion. I will also drink regular soda, on occasion.
If you look long enough you will find soda made with Sugar and not HFCS. Generally the only soda with sugar or HCFS I will touch is there's a Caribbean restaurant in Manchester that makes it's own Ginger beer and it's worth every calorie and every gram of Sugar. After all that's what the double workout is for.
Ginger beer.
Black rum.
Nectar of the gods.0 -
^^ THIS RIGHT HERE ^^ If you actually read the studies on Aspartame that have found correlation between Aspartame sweetened soft drinks and weight gain, every one of them identifies this phenomenon as anywhere from a probable to a likely cause of the correlation. I've read them because I've had this discussion with people before. Try scholar.google.com and find them for yourself.
The logical explanation based on the data identified in the studies suggests that people who drink a diet soda tend to believe that it allows them to then eat more calories in food. They over-estimate the difference in calories and over compensate. Indeed, one study that used controlled diets for its subjects found that the group drinking aspartame and had the same total caloric intake as the group drinking sugared soda did not show any difference in weight gains/losses.0 -
I am with you. I have zero intention of giving up my Diet Coke. At least right now. Who knows what I might do in the future.0
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What is everybodies feeling on diet soda. i am addicted but am reading that even the diet stuff may be bad. Any thoughts?
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Never was a diet soda fan...Addicted to coke. But trying to cut down to two cans a day. I'd probably would of lost 2-3 pounds more at this point if I would stop drinking coke all together. Oh well. One of my few vices in life..0
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Yes diet soda can contribute to weight gain except in the studies that show it doesn't. It appears that obese people drink diet soda, and it also appears that obese people on a diet also drink diet soda.....go figure. It's also a conspiracy in this country that aspartame is not safe and sold anyway. the other 60 or so countries that allow it to be sold are getting paid off by the FDA, so yeah, it's unsafe.
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Some people will have you can have as much as you want...
Others will say give it up...
If you as you say are addicted..that's not good!!!0 -
So its been 5 days since I haven't drank any pop, I have no proof other then the fact that my body doesn't hurt as much as it did when i was drinking the diet pop. my doctor did tell me that Aspartame can be for some people an inflammatory- so I suspect in my case this was the situation.
My opinion, soda sugar or not isn't good for your teeth, it eats at them and can allow for cavities to occur with more ease.0 -
That's what readers of the Enquirer say.:laugh:
Doesn't look like a medical source to me.Do you have any links to MEDICAL research?
Nope. Never said it was a medical source. Just the reason I don't drink diet drinks, but each to their own.
And medical sources aren't always correct just cos they're medical sources.
Actual peer reviewed research is a great source. Problem is is that many people would rather go by hearsay.
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There's a difference between rationalization and actual science. Correlation isn't causation (and it's not more than half). And anything man made? You do realize that practically everything we eat has man made manufacturing involved? Unless you're picking your own vegetables, fruits, and raising your own cattle and slaughtering it, etc., manufacturing involves some sort of man made chemical for preservation.So you're saying.. it's not full of sodium.. and it does qunech your thirst?
hmm
Sodium in Classic Diet Sodas
Classic diet sodas, such as Diet Pepsi and Diet Coke, typically contain about 35 to 40 mg of sodium per 12-oz. serving. Caffeine-free diet sodas, Splenda-sweetened diet sodas and sodas flavored with cherry or lime contain about the same amount of sodium
thats a lot of sodium for a 12 oucnce drink.. How much water do you have to drink in order to flush that out?? Yea.. makes you thirsty.
Soda diet or otherwise is also link to hunger. There is a strong coorelations between artifical sweetners used in diet sodas and the feeling of hunger. Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half.
Also.. anything that is made made is not healthy and our bodies are not intended to eat it. Eating whole fresh food is what you need to look at to acheive health, including what you choose to drink. Does that mena i never eat a granola bar or drink booze? Of course not. But if you're really looking to change your habits, you need to change them all, 1 at a time.
You can rationsalize it or justify drinking or eating anything you want anyyway you want. That does not change the actual health benefits or lack of them of a particular item.
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I enjoy a can or a 24 oz bottle of diet soda once in a blue moon. I hope that doesn't contribute to weight gain.0
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I enjoy a can or a 24 oz bottle of diet soda once in a blue moon. I hope that doesn't contribute to weight gain.
It won't.0 -
There is absolutely no scientific evidence aspartame is toxic.
I drink diet code from time to time.
It may not be toxic, but its effects on the body definitely aren't beneficial
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/0 -
I gave up soda a while back (this girl and i had a bet on who could go the longest without it has been almost 2 years now) and it is just a choice, I rather drink water, and to each their own.0
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Yes diet soda can contribute to weight gain except in the studies that show it doesn't. It appears that obese people drink diet soda, and it also appears that obese people on a diet also drink diet soda.....go figure. It's also a conspiracy in this country that aspartame is not safe and sold anyway. the other 60 or so countries that allow it to be sold are getting paid off by the FDA, so yeah, it's unsafe.
Who do you think funds most of those studies claiming that aspartame in diet soda/food is healthy? The food/beverage industries that hope to profit from the studies perhaps.0 -
^^^ LOL
I drink one can every once in a while. I prefer real soda with calories. when I have it, but I stick to tea and coffee for the most part.0 -
S'up to you if you want to drink it or not. No one can claim any food is 100% safe everyting is contaminated with something that is toxic. It's the risk we take being a heterotroph (animal that cant photosynthesize). Even bottle water has contaminates such as bacteria and arsenic the levels may be smaller but the fact is there is no such thing as safe and clean food. Anyone that claims this is not living in reality. The fact is yes in high doses aspartame can be toxic, but it saves you 100-1000's of excess calories per day and drinking extra concentrated sources of sucrose ie. corn syrup if you are a soda drinker. I would venture to say people did not become obese from drinking a calorie free beverage. The option to drink or eat your calories should be a no brainer. If you want to give it up great, but I would be willing to bet all of the money I ever make in my life you wont have a longer lifespan.0
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Yes diet soda can contribute to weight gain except in the studies that show it doesn't. It appears that obese people drink diet soda, and it also appears that obese people on a diet also drink diet soda.....go figure. It's also a conspiracy in this country that aspartame is not safe and sold anyway. the other 60 or so countries that allow it to be sold are getting paid off by the FDA, so yeah, it's unsafe.
Who do you think funds most of those studies claiming that aspartame in diet soda/food is healthy? The food/beverage industries that hope to profit from the studies perhaps.
Which studies in particular?0 -
Yes diet soda can contribute to weight gain except in the studies that show it doesn't. It appears that obese people drink diet soda, and it also appears that obese people on a diet also drink diet soda.....go figure. It's also a conspiracy in this country that aspartame is not safe and sold anyway. the other 60 or so countries that allow it to be sold are getting paid off by the FDA, so yeah, it's unsafe.
Who do you think funds most of those studies claiming that aspartame in diet soda/food is healthy? The food/beverage industries that hope to profit from the studies perhaps.
Which studies in particular?
Sidesteel, I don't know which studies in particular, that's why my post was a question. But doesn't it shock you that out of the hundreds, if not thousands of independently funded studies performed on aspartame, nearly 100% of those studies discovered adverse effects, but the FDA makes its claims that aspartame is 'safe' based on just a few dozen studies. It reminds me of the tobacco industries claims in the 60's-70's that cigarettes were harmless and not addictive, yet they still added nicotine to their product because they knew it was addictive.
I'm not saying that drinking diet soda with aspartame while eating a caloric deficit will make you gain weight, but you can't deny its neurological effects and how it can make one crave more food.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
It's liken to caffeine in diet pills. Sure you can't just take caffeine, eat whatever you want and expect to lose weight. But for some, it's ability to suppressing appetite can help one lose weight by eating less.0 -
Yes diet soda can contribute to weight gain except in the studies that show it doesn't. It appears that obese people drink diet soda, and it also appears that obese people on a diet also drink diet soda.....go figure. It's also a conspiracy in this country that aspartame is not safe and sold anyway. the other 60 or so countries that allow it to be sold are getting paid off by the FDA, so yeah, it's unsafe.
Who do you think funds most of those studies claiming that aspartame in diet soda/food is healthy? The food/beverage industries that hope to profit from the studies perhaps.
Which studies in particular?
Sidesteel, I don't know which studies in particular, that's why my post was a question. But doesn't it shock you that out of the hundreds, if not thousands of independently funded studies performed on aspartame, nearly 100% of those studies discovered adverse effects, but the FDA makes its claims that aspartame is 'safe' based on just a few dozen studies. It reminds me of the tobacco industries claims in the 60's-70's that cigarettes were harmless and not addictive, yet they still added nicotine to their product because they knew it was addictive.
I'm not saying that drinking diet soda with aspartame while eating a caloric deficit will make you gain weight, but you can't deny its neurological effects and how it can make one crave more food.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
It's liken to caffeine in diet pills. Sure you can't just take caffeine, eat whatever you want and expect to lose weight. But for some, it's ability to suppressing appetite can help one lose weight by eating less.
I don't question that measures of satiety from individual to individual may vary with some people experiencing hunger (results on that are mixed btw).
But regarding "nearly 100% of hundreds of studies showing adverse effects" I would suggest that you may be exaggerating.
I don't believe moderate doses of aspartame are harmful in people who don't have phenylketonuria.0
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