the way people are trying to lose weight
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I agree. I feel those miracle pills or crazy diet plans are just setting people up for failure.0
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so yummy 
but, i agree! annoys me.
& I am right there with you OP. :flowerforyou:0 -
Wait...WAIT...WAIT...
...you mean to tell me raspberry ketones are NOT the secret to losing weight?????? #sarcasm0 -
Sometimes it takes a lot of fails before you find the win. Have compassion.0
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amen sista0
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And another that gets me is these food programs. How does that teach you how to live? It may work for some people. But do you want to be 60 and still converting your meals into points? Why is it that some people cant face reality that weight loss takes work,
I do Weight Watchers. I count points... I use MFP because my support system is here and I like to keep tabs of my calories - I like knowing how my 29 points add up - is it 1200 calories... is it 1500 calories... is it 1700 calories... I can get 2000 Calories out of 29 points if I really want to ....
I do not get an easy road. I still work my *kitten* off (Literally), I still eat properly, I still do EVERYTHING I did when I was calorie coutning infact more so because I have learned that certain ratios give me lower points - lower points... more food... more food... less b!tchy me. I still watch my proteins, my carbs etc. Do I want to be 60 and converting my meals into points? Well what the hell is the difference if I am going to be 60 and still counting calories? And face it some people even in maintinence still count calories.. you don't get to just lose weight and know your good.... the realitiy is that it is all a life style change. IF I choose to be 60 and count points instead of calories thats my lifestyle thats my choice. I have faced reality... and when come can come to me in 2 years after getting stuck multiple times, getting battered with health issues (Not weight related), after giving up and waking up the next day andtrying again than come talk to me because I am goin on 3 years of this 'reality' that weight loss is hard. Just because I choose to count points and not calories does not make my choice any less valid than yours. POINTS are not a magic bullet, and I can still eat everything I want - it just makes more sense to eat that apple thats zero points than that chocolate bar thats 7 because those 7 points can be used for a damn steak. So please be a little less judgemental of those of us who choose something that is not the same as yours. I do not rely on someone to deliver my meals to me, I just use weight watchers as my tool... just like I use MFP as a tool.0 -
Sometimes it takes a lot of fails before you find the win. Have compassion.
This.0 -
I find it really ironic that Sharon Osbourne is a spokesperson for the Atkins Diet....when she admittedly had lap band surgery (and then had it removed). What message does THAT send!?!
Well after having lap-band surgery you eat a high protein, very low carb diet so Atkins would fit the bill.
I see nothing wrong with using a protein shake for a meal. I do it often for breakfast because I'm not hungry in the mornings but I have to get in my protein.
You can use some of the products and still eat healthy right along with it.0 -
the "lose six pounds in two weeks on the special k diet" coming from my television yesterday made me go "what the ****?"
I am having this same reaction with the various women's magazines that litter the register at every grocery store (And with the new year, these headlines are freaking EVERYWHERE). Lose 10 pounds this week! Lose 35 pounds this month! I'm like "WTF? And which body part would you like me to chop off????"
They have very convincing testimonials of people who did lose the weight - but no returns on them long term. In the last few years, I've only read a few articles about people who have lost weight and kept it off - and it was always people who did it the slow, sane, sustainable way.0 -
Hiya everyone....I just joined today and I'm very happy I did. I was amazed at how much fat I was eating in my "healthy breakfast" of oatmeal and toast! This site is going to be great for me to educate myself about the foods I eat.
I am an American living in the UK and the number of obese people in this country has risen dramatically. I believe that obesity is becoming a worldwide problem, not just America. It is due to our frentic lifestyles. Working long hours, too busy to cook a healthy meal and sitting for long hours at a desk in front of a computer. When we have down time, we want to relax. We're too tired and exercising becomes more difficult than it should. I have become lazy as a result. I hate to exercise.
However you decide to lose weight, please be safe and healthy. :flowerforyou:0 -
Good on you.
The funny part is after you lose the weight people will still refuse to believe you did it that way.
"So what did you do? What's your secret?"
"Diet and exercise. Counted my calories and started working out."
"Yeah yeah, but really, what was it? What pills did you take? Did you cleanse? I bet you cleansed. And no way I could lose weight, I'd hate to give up bread. I've been watching Dr. Oz and ordered a bunch of stuff, so I should be in a bikini come summer!"
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I have this conversation at least 2 times a week in real life. :noway:0 -
Omg yes! I get this all the time! It's like they want me to say "Oh yeah it was this magic pill"....Agreed. People are always desperately disappointed when they ask me how I have lost weight and I reply 'eating less and moving more'. They want me to tell them about some 'magic' weightloss idea!0 -
We will learn when we are ready.
I fell pray to the quick-fixes and failed every time. It wasn't until I was mentally ready that I took the plunge and started counting calories. THIS is what worked for ME. Other people need to figure that what works for them on their own.0 -
People want a "Quick Fix" and everyone knows it. I see countless forum posts a day from people already on MFP asking about every "diet helper" under the sun. And when you say "no one needs that, just eat less and move more" everyone gets all up in your face about it. People believe from commercials and magazine articles that they need something "jump start" their weight loss. No. Really you need need to strap those old sneakers that are hidden the back of your closet on your feet and leave the house for an hour. Go through your pantry and pitch all the junk food and replace it with lean protein, veggies, fruit, low fat dairy and whole grain products. Weigh your food and eat logical sized portions. Eat until you are full, not until there is no food in front of you.
But I whole heartily believe weight loss has to be a mental thing before it can be a physical thing. You need to figure out how you get to be fat in the first place so that you don't end up back there. Fix the bad habits, because maintenance is harder than losing, I kid you not!
You are so right. Maintenance is the key. I put on 42lbs.... then lost 28lbs yippee..... and then put on 32lbs... I'm on my way back down now and have lost 26lbs this time. All of this in less than 3 years. It has taken about 10 months to do my 26lbs and I am excersising in a way I have never done before. I am realistically hoping to hit my target around July and if it takes a bit longer then so be it...I just wanna keep it off this time.
However you get there, it's learning to stay there that is the tough nut to crack!!0 -
good plan best of luck, I did it a few eyars ago on here and lost 80 LBS. Sadly i went back to my old habits and put back on 50 in 2012. Now I am back at it.0
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my mum and I just had a talk like this a few days ago. we both go to the gym and I do dance workouts at home. and she said to me, "well if there was some magical pill or whatever for you to take to make you lose weight, wouldn't you?" I was just kind of like. meh. I LIKE dancing and eating healthy! it makes me sad that so many people would rather just be unhealthy.0
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Following the Special K diet *is* a form of calorie counting. The fact is that people lose in all kinds of ways and we all find our path. The principal is to be healthy and the method varies. Support each other and don't worry so much about the path that other people are on. I'm following a PSMF and people FREAK about it and spout all their common wisdom but the fact is that www.pubmed.com is full of great studies that support this choice for people in my situation. While for others it may not work for others and may seem like a 'fad' to some.0
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Thank you for the honesty!0
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i completey agree with you!!!! I find the biggest problem is alot of people want everything to be instant,( ex... instant promotions at work, lose the 80lbs that took 2 yrs to gain) people dont want to work for the things they want! People are willing to try so many ridiculous things in order to lose weight....meanwhile if they had just been watching what goes in their mouth and getting some activity in their lives they could have already lost the weight and saved a boat load of money!!! Sometimes things in life aren't instant but it makes it that much more rewarding when you suceed!!!0
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Show some luv MFP. For many of us, coming to the conclusion that we must make a intentional desicion to make a "lifestyle change" to our eating habits has taken awhile. No, everyone's "light bulb" does not click on at the same time. We all learn different lessons in life at our own pace. Some of us may not have the diet formula correct YET, but I'm sure we all have some type of "shortcomings" we are still trying to figure out in life. People watch your actions. So show them the right way and that it works, but don't degrade them, or you can become "the problem".
....and yes, I am one who is now eating healthier and exercising. NOW GO OUT THERE AND SHOW SOME LUVVVVV!!!0 -
OP - this is what i was after today!
Peoples ideas of quick fixes really bug me, i makes me feel cheated that i am doing it the long and slow way.
I am learning what to put in my mouth and how to move about and how to play.
Others get to go nothing but push go on the microwave and are expecting me to congratulate there loss.
Once they reach goal the go back to square one.. they know nothing about how their body works, what to eat and how to be healthy.
One girl i work with has had a big loss using one of these programs and i snubbed it. She knows nothing about cooking , hates the gym and is all a bit clueless.
It feels like a smack in the face sometimes.
why does it make you feel cheated? why do you care? seems silly to get upset about it. if these people lose weight in a bad way and then just gain it back, what have they really gained from you congratulating them? seems more embarassing on their end than anything else. everyone noticed that i lost weight. if i gain it back, that would be embarassing. i don't gain anything by people congratulating me.0 -
I agree with you 100%
I was going to do the surgery thing, but luckily my not wanting to spend the money won out.
I decided to just watch l my calories and WALK!
I had lost 112 pounds.
I actually got to size 2 but felt I was to thin, I want stay size 4.
Any diet will work IF you stick to it.
My Fitness pal is the best one!
Calories in, calories burned, Log it
Good luck to you
It is not a diet, it is a chosen life style!0 -
I have been on the journey to lose weight. But i decided to do it the right way. count calories and exercise. And people seem to find it hard to believe this is all im doing. And yes im going to brag that its all about getting off your butt and moving! But its crazy the things im reading and seeing on tv. Juice diets? Eat special K and lose weight in 2 weeks! Take this supplement but yet its not evaluated by the FDA. Do this workout. Buy this membership or this piece of exercise equipment. And another that gets me is these food programs. How does that teach you how to live? It may work for some people. But do you want to be 60 and still converting your meals into points? Why is it that some people cant face reality that weight loss takes work, And why is it so hard to believe that you don't have to diet so to say. That you cant learn to eat normal everyday foods in a healthier way. And its so funny going through the weigh tloss sections of stores and seeing these drinks and bars that pack more calories then if you were to prepare the meals to begin with. it took time to learn habits and its going to take time to fix them. okkk. venting over!
Of course we all know this is true..... NOW.... and many of us knew it for many many years, but just weren't ready to make the commitment yet. It is very easy for us to get on our high horses once we figure it all out, and look down on all those people that are looking for miracle pills or plans that will do the work for them, and forget how many years we spent ourselves in that frame of mind.
I have to be very careful around my friends in the 'real world', that I don't get so hyped up on the success of so many people on here that have figured it out, and become 'enlightened to the RIGHT way', to the point of alienating my friends and family with all my 'wisdom' I have obtained here over the past 5 months.
I have to remember where I was 6 months ago, and how easily I could slip back into that 'easy fix' mentality. If the answers were so obvious, why did it take me X number of years to figure it out??
A little humility goes a long way.0 -
Short answer - people would rather spend money than make effort, and there will always be someone prepared to profit from this.0
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I always tell people I lost weight from Stress, Men and Tequila...for some reason people accept that answer better than Exercise and Watching What I Eat.
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People don't WANT to believe you. You are actually putting in effort.
Notice how they disappear as soon as you can't name the magic pill you are "using"???0 -
Forks over Knives0
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We all have different bodies and I do not see the value in judging or putting one another down for our methods. Counting calories and exercise is what I choose at this time but that does not mean that what another chooses is not right or that it cannot work.
The internet is a very convenient way to throw out passive aggressive comments and not have to be held accountable for them. Perhaps we should just try to support one another and be proud of our accomplishments rather than looking down our noses.
QFMFT!
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Okay, OP, I think your opinion is valid, however it is one sided and a little harsh. Many of the things you mention are completely legitimate, doctor approved methods.
1. I used Phentermine in the past, for 4 months. I lost about 20lbs. It mainly helped to suppress my appetite. I love food. It was prescribed by my doctor, who I saw every month for testing and a session on eating & exercising habits. We treated this program as if I was going to make a lifestyle change. I however, was not as commited as I should have been, hence the reason I quit taking the phentermine. I wasn't looking for a "quick fix" I was in need of support for my appetite. But like I said, I hadn't really made the mental commitment of what should have been a lifestyle change.
2. Before that, I did Jenny Craig. It was expensive, but I could afford it. I lost 40lbs with that. I was going to college full time, working full time, was newly married, & renovating our house. Needless to say, I was busy, so the convenience is what I was paying for. The food was just a tool or aid . Again, with that program, we talked diet & exercise. I ate salads & veggies with their meals, and I got support once a week from my consultant, who is still a friend today. I loved it. Yes it was expensive, and yes I put the weight back on a few months after I stopped. This is due to a lifestyle change my husband and I made together, that change was letting ourselves go and getting addicted to watching TV every night instead of cooking & exercising.
3. I've started & stopped weight watchers several times. I always lose when I go to the meetings, count points, and log food. Again, they have a weekly support system, they TEACH clean eating just as much as they promote their prepared products and recipes. For many people there is a balance. They have great tools & support. But again, each time I've gone, I've lost following the program, but eventually I lose interest and quit going and then quit working the program, and I realize I wasn't commited to making this lifestyle change in the first place.
4. I've done cleanses and felt better. I think cleansing is a personal preference. As long as you aren't using a very low calorie diet during, but just eating clean, and it's not for too long of a period. If it makes people feel better, they should be able to do it without judgement.
5. I currently use Herbalife as a meal replacement in the morning. I figure, this is better than not eating at all, which was my morning habit before. Their shakes taste the best out of any I have tried, which is quite a few different brands. Again, I think this is a personal preference.
So, calorie counting is the MFP method. I agree that it is a very effective method, obviously almost everyone, if not every here on MFP agrees. It comes down to the person. Some people just aren't ready to let go. Some people have issues with food and that's why some of the above mentioned methods don't work for everyone but do work for some. It's personal preference. You really shouldn't be so critical of the methods, especially if you haven't tried them. They all promote health & lifestyle changes. I know this because I've tried them all. If I am honest with myself, they didn't work for me because I didn't work the programs. I am having many of the same issues here with MFP as I was before with the other plans. Because I LOVE food. I also grew up with overweight parents who didn't care what they ate because they don't view their weight as a problem. They just love food, fried, baked, grilled, Red Meat, Pork, and veggies, we even had a huge garden and therefore ate a lot of Wholefood organic stuff. So, that is why it's so hard for me to jump on board with healthy eating & weight loss. It's going to have to be a slow mental shift process. I have years of growing up in an unhealthy lifestyle of bad eating habits to overcome. It's not going to happen overnight. If I try different tools to overcome that, then that's on me. I've learned a little something from each program that I still use today. It doens't mean I'm looking for a quick fix, I'm just looking for something that works for me.0 -
Everyone is looking for the magic pill or special diet. Someone earlier said that your mental state plays a big part and I agree 100%. I have challenges due to food allergies so milk and soy are out, and I don't eat a lot of bread carbs, no legumes or artifical sweetners as they cause stomach upset and I don't eat sugar. It works for me, it is healthy and my doctor said it is okay. Eat less and move more, sounds good to me. I hesitate to say I am on a diet, because it no longer feels that way to me, I don't starve myself, I just changed the way I eat and my relationship with food, weight loss is an added benefit..
I have a problem with Body by V just because I found that the people selling them were very aggressive and didn't want to listen when I said I had no interest in shakes, I have a milk allergy and prefer to do it the old fashioned way, eating healthy food, proper portion sizes and exercise. That being said, I never say anything negative to anyone who tells me they are doing a specific diet or program, if it works for them great, if not they will learn the hard way I guess.
weight loss is hard work, that is why companies make such money on weight loss pills, foods, plans, gadgets.. you name it, because people don't want to do the work if they don't have to. We have all given up at some time in our journey that makes us human...getting back up on the weight loss horse is the hard part.
That being said I should also mention I have done weight watchers in the past and found them to be a good program that worked. They do try to teach healthy eating and the support is a big help as well. So I don't frown on all weight loss programs. Different things work for different people I guess.0
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