Organic foods debunked

DesireeLovesOrganic

Then don't buy it. More for us! LOL We haven't had colds in a year, I will stick with what's working for us. No GMOs and here organic produce is cheap (California) and easy to get locally. It does taste better too.

GMOs have nothing to do with colds.

Nope, just tumors and organ damage. http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm

EvaD12

I'm going to start by saying I don't know that much about this,

I though organic food was about less pesticides, so even if there are some surely it's got to be better non-organic? Sure it might not be perfect but it sounds like a step in the right direction at least!

What about the effect on the environment is organic better in terms of protecting and sustaining the environment??

foleyshirley

Then don't buy it. More for us! LOL We haven't had colds in a year, I will stick with what's working for us. No GMOs and here organic produce is cheap (California) and easy to get locally. It does taste better too.

GMOs have nothing to do with colds.

Nope, just tumors and organ damage. http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm

. Do you eat any processed corn products or stuff made with corn meal. Over 90 percent of those products in the US are GMO. Sugar in the US is mostly from sugar beets. At least 85-90 percent GMO in the U S. Not a food, but most of our cotton is GMO. I don't like GMOs for environmental reasons. But for safety reasons....they have been with us a long time. Think what you will, but if you get cancer, it is very unlikely it is due to GMOs.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

What I don't understand is why people want so badly to "debunk" organics. If I choose to buy organic on the chance that there is indeed some truth to the concept then why do others care? It's my money and I opt to spend a little more even if it is only eliminating a portion of the normally consumed pesticides. No one is forcing anyone to buy organic but those who don't seem almost cranky about the whole thing.
I don't buy blindly into every fad that comes along. I do my research and for every article posted that claims to debunk organics I can post one that refutes it. At least no one is knocking on your door or bombarding your email trying to convince you to spend money on organic, unlike those promoting the magic health and weight loss properties of Shakeology or Herbal Life.

Information is power. Once organics became a thing, the corporations lobbied and invented ways around the laws. It's just total bs. I don't care what anyone does, I just think its important to understand what it is.

The sad part of this is that there are actually true organic farmers out there. But, how do you know which is which. It's like giving money to a homeless person. You don't know if they're really homeless or not, so I just don't give any money to any of them.

If you stick to getting a CSA membership where you can visit the farm, work on the farm and see how it works you know what your getting.

I don't buy organics or much of anything from any mainstream market or grocery store..........

My meats come from local farms as well as the majority of my vegetables and fruits. So, in my household......we eat mostly what is local and in season.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

yes they are more expensive and yes they many not be any better than non-organic products. I still feel better buying them.

The only honest reason people buy organic foods. They feel all warm and fuzzy doing it. You can post all the logic that you want that they are no healthier, aren't even pesiticide free, and in fact in many ways can be more likely to cause sickness or disease than their non-organically labelled counterparts.

Doesn't matter. To some people organic will always be better. Because.. chemicals.

That last part is laughable. You don't hear about all the food recalls for listeria and salmonella coming from the organic farms......

They are coming from the conventional, factory farmed methods.

I will continue to enjoy my CSA membership, happily work on the farm getting Vitamin D from the sun and eat my organic produce when it is delivered to my door every Wednesday during the growing season.

DesireeLovesOrganic

Then don't buy it. More for us! LOL We haven't had colds in a year, I will stick with what's working for us. No GMOs and here organic produce is cheap (California) and easy to get locally. It does taste better too.

GMOs have nothing to do with colds.

Nope, just tumors and organ damage. http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm

. Do you eat any processed corn products or stuff made with corn meal. Over 90 percent of those products in the US are GMO. Sugar in the US is mostly from sugar beets. At least 85-90 percent GMO in the U S. Not a food, but most of our cotton is GMO. I don't like GMOs for environmental reasons. But for safety reasons....they have been with us a long time. Think what you will, but if you get cancer, it is very unlikely it is due to GMOs.

Nope. I helped worked on the labeling GMO campaign in California (but we lost.) Soy is mostly GMO too. Some zucchini and papaya too. GMO foods are not allowed to be labeled organic though (although there is a loophole if it's less than 5%, like sometimes they squeeze "soy lecithin" in as a last ingredient...like Green and Black's "organic" chocolate.)

MaraDiaz

I thought everyone knew this. Organic is meaningless completely in the USA.

Figures.

DesireeLovesOrganic

yes they are more expensive and yes they many not be any better than non-organic products. I still feel better buying them.

The only honest reason people buy organic foods. They feel all warm and fuzzy doing it. You can post all the logic that you want that they are no healthier, aren't even pesiticide free, and in fact in many ways can be more likely to cause sickness or disease than their non-organically labelled counterparts.

Doesn't matter. To some people organic will always be better. Because.. chemicals.

That last part is laughable. You don't hear about all the food recalls for listeria and salmonella coming from the organic farms......

They are coming from the conventional, factory farmed methods.

I will continue to enjoy my CSA membership, happily work on the farm getting Vitamin D from the sun and eat my organic produce when it is delivered to my door every Wednesday during the growing season.

I love CSA too. Like a box of surprises! It's fun to come up with new creative recipes too. I try to grow some of my own in my small little yard but this year only my bell peppers, green beans, and cherry tomatoes made it. I killed my cilantro, tomatillos, and red hot chili peppers. Boo! LOL

foleyshirley

yes they are more expensive and yes they many not be any better than non-organic products. I still feel better buying them.

The only honest reason people buy organic foods. They feel all warm and fuzzy doing it. You can post all the logic that you want that they are no healthier, aren't even pesiticide free, and in fact in many ways can be more likely to cause sickness or disease than their non-organically labelled counterparts.

Doesn't matter. To some people organic will always be better. Because.. chemicals.

That last part is laughable. You don't hear about all the food recalls for listeria and salmonella coming from the organic farms......

They are coming from the conventional, factory farmed methods.

I will continue to enjoy my CSA membership, happily work on the farm getting Vitamin D from the sun and eat my organic produce when it is delivered to my door every Wednesday during the growing season.

Again, this. Organic is now conventional. That is what big business will do.

Sunka1

That's why it's so important to visit farmers markets and farmstands so you can ask these questions. I have a met a lot of organic growers in my area that do not use any organic pesticides or herbicides. But it's true that organic, in the broad sense, means nothing these days.

Sunka1

is soy lechitin always GMO? not eating green and blacks these days but I LOVE their chocloate. Boo hoo.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

yes they are more expensive and yes they many not be any better than non-organic products. I still feel better buying them.

The only honest reason people buy organic foods. They feel all warm and fuzzy doing it. You can post all the logic that you want that they are no healthier, aren't even pesiticide free, and in fact in many ways can be more likely to cause sickness or disease than their non-organically labelled counterparts.

Doesn't matter. To some people organic will always be better. Because.. chemicals.

That last part is laughable. You don't hear about all the food recalls for listeria and salmonella coming from the organic farms......

They are coming from the conventional, factory farmed methods.

I will continue to enjoy my CSA membership, happily work on the farm getting Vitamin D from the sun and eat my organic produce when it is delivered to my door every Wednesday during the growing season.

Again, this. Organic is now conventional. That is what big business will do.

I purchase very little from big business, so it doesn't apply to me or my household. The few things produce wise I buy from the grocery store is conventional (bananas, citrus fruits, thick skinned produce).

My CSA is not big business at all. They only allow about 300 memberships per year and everyone has to spend at least 5 hours a month working on the farm. It is part of the agreement.

rsacerich

People go after organics because the organic industry has launched a massive misinformation and fear mongering campaign against conventional agriculture which is hurting farmers and consumer both, while being completely dishonest at its core.

SunofaBeach14

If you want to debug organics all you have to do is spray them with chemicals. Easy peasy, no more bugs.