Paleo / Gluten Free Diets
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`whatever you decide to do make sure it is sustainable and good for your long term health. I went on a diet about a decade ago that had long term health implications for my bone density.
It is not a bad thing to reduce your intake of processed gluten in things like shop bought bread, biscuits, cakes etc because they use the cheapest bleached flours. This does not mean that you cannot have cous cous or wholegrain rice.
It is not ideal to cut out all good sources of gluten because the outside of wholegrain has vitamin E and you need that for your skin - vital to keep skin supple when dieting or it will go dry.
There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities.
We don't need gluten or grains to get enough Vitamin E.
Sunflower seeds, Almonds, Paprika, Red Chili Powder, Pine nuts, Peanuts, Basil, Oregano, Dried Apricots, Pickled Green Olives, Cooked Spinach and Cooked Taro Root.
Also, here is a list of other foods that are abundant in Vitamin E.
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vitamin-E.php#vitamin-E-rich-foods
"There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities."
This is the worst argument for cutting X foods out of your diet, be it gluten, milk or whatever else fad food deletion is passing though the first world populations (and by fad, I mean that strictly for people that don't REQUIRE the deletion for health complication reasons, celiacs, lactose intolerance, etc).
You could sat this about any food.
Ridiculous example #1:
There is nothing in pineapple that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #2:
There is nothing in sweet potatoes that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #3:
There is nothing in broccoli that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
That does not mean I will delete pineapple, sweet potatoes, broccoli, grains or milk from my diet (since I have no medical dietary reasons to do so). If I went by that reasoning, I'd never be able to eat anything because everything in everything can be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities. If you are anti gluten, fine, but please find a different, less ridiculous argument in order to state your case.0 -
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`whatever you decide to do make sure it is sustainable and good for your long term health. I went on a diet about a decade ago that had long term health implications for my bone density.
It is not a bad thing to reduce your intake of processed gluten in things like shop bought bread, biscuits, cakes etc because they use the cheapest bleached flours. This does not mean that you cannot have cous cous or wholegrain rice.
It is not ideal to cut out all good sources of gluten because the outside of wholegrain has vitamin E and you need that for your skin - vital to keep skin supple when dieting or it will go dry.
There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities.
We don't need gluten or grains to get enough Vitamin E.
Sunflower seeds, Almonds, Paprika, Red Chili Powder, Pine nuts, Peanuts, Basil, Oregano, Dried Apricots, Pickled Green Olives, Cooked Spinach and Cooked Taro Root.
Also, here is a list of other foods that are abundant in Vitamin E.
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vitamin-E.php#vitamin-E-rich-foods
"There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities."
This is the worst argument for cutting X foods out of your diet, be it gluten, milk or whatever else fad food deletion is passing though the first world populations (and by fad, I mean that strictly for people that don't REQUIRE the deletion for health complication reasons, celiacs, lactose intolerance, etc).
You could sat this about any food.
Ridiculous example #1:
There is nothing in pineapple that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #2:
There is nothing in sweet potatoes that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #3:
There is nothing in broccoli that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
That does not mean I will delete pineapple, sweet potatoes, broccoli, grains or milk from my diet (since I have no medical dietary reasons to do so). If I went by that reasoning, I'd never be able to eat anything because everything in everything can be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities. If you are anti gluten, fine, but please find a different, less ridiculous argument in order to state your case.
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.0 -
`whatever you decide to do make sure it is sustainable and good for your long term health. I went on a diet about a decade ago that had long term health implications for my bone density.
It is not a bad thing to reduce your intake of processed gluten in things like shop bought bread, biscuits, cakes etc because they use the cheapest bleached flours. This does not mean that you cannot have cous cous or wholegrain rice.
It is not ideal to cut out all good sources of gluten because the outside of wholegrain has vitamin E and you need that for your skin - vital to keep skin supple when dieting or it will go dry.
There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities.
We don't need gluten or grains to get enough Vitamin E.
Sunflower seeds, Almonds, Paprika, Red Chili Powder, Pine nuts, Peanuts, Basil, Oregano, Dried Apricots, Pickled Green Olives, Cooked Spinach and Cooked Taro Root.
Also, here is a list of other foods that are abundant in Vitamin E.
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vitamin-E.php#vitamin-E-rich-foods
"There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities."
This is the worst argument for cutting X foods out of your diet, be it gluten, milk or whatever else fad food deletion is passing though the first world populations (and by fad, I mean that strictly for people that don't REQUIRE the deletion for health complication reasons, celiacs, lactose intolerance, etc).
You could sat this about any food.
Ridiculous example #1:
There is nothing in pineapple that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #2:
There is nothing in sweet potatoes that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #3:
There is nothing in broccoli that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
That does not mean I will delete pineapple, sweet potatoes, broccoli, grains or milk from my diet (since I have no medical dietary reasons to do so). If I went by that reasoning, I'd never be able to eat anything because everything in everything can be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities. If you are anti gluten, fine, but please find a different, less ridiculous argument in order to state your case.
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Alright, ignore all the point I made. Keep using that argument and keep not convincing people who see how blatantly ridiculous it is.0 -
`whatever you decide to do make sure it is sustainable and good for your long term health. I went on a diet about a decade ago that had long term health implications for my bone density.
It is not a bad thing to reduce your intake of processed gluten in things like shop bought bread, biscuits, cakes etc because they use the cheapest bleached flours. This does not mean that you cannot have cous cous or wholegrain rice.
It is not ideal to cut out all good sources of gluten because the outside of wholegrain has vitamin E and you need that for your skin - vital to keep skin supple when dieting or it will go dry.
There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities.
We don't need gluten or grains to get enough Vitamin E.
Sunflower seeds, Almonds, Paprika, Red Chili Powder, Pine nuts, Peanuts, Basil, Oregano, Dried Apricots, Pickled Green Olives, Cooked Spinach and Cooked Taro Root.
Also, here is a list of other foods that are abundant in Vitamin E.
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vitamin-E.php#vitamin-E-rich-foods
"There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities."
This is the worst argument for cutting X foods out of your diet, be it gluten, milk or whatever else fad food deletion is passing though the first world populations (and by fad, I mean that strictly for people that don't REQUIRE the deletion for health complication reasons, celiacs, lactose intolerance, etc).
You could sat this about any food.
Ridiculous example #1:
There is nothing in pineapple that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #2:
There is nothing in sweet potatoes that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #3:
There is nothing in broccoli that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
That does not mean I will delete pineapple, sweet potatoes, broccoli, grains or milk from my diet (since I have no medical dietary reasons to do so). If I went by that reasoning, I'd never be able to eat anything because everything in everything can be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities. If you are anti gluten, fine, but please find a different, less ridiculous argument in order to state your case.
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Alright, ignore all the point I made. Keep using that argument and keep not convincing people who see how blatantly ridiculous it is.
Yup, when you've already got your mind made up, there is no need to be confused by facts is there? lol0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.0 -
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.
Exactly. A lot of people think going GF will help them lose weight. You'd be better off just eating clean (unless of course you do have an intolerance). GF does not necessarily mean healthier.0 -
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.0 -
I know in Canada we can call something whole grain that actually isn't a whole grain, like whole grain bread, which is fortified, but will have a sprinkling of actual whole grain in it. Actual whole grain isn't fortified. Confusing to say the least. Americans consume about 175% more refined grain than recommended and consume only 30% of whole grain recommendations, and when they eat out, those numbers go up....looks like whole grain isn't popular at M'D's.Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.0 -
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.
I am not making anything up. All breads and grain products (cereals) are fortified..........even the ones that say "whole grain".
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.
Or the cash!!!
Seriously, though... There is this assumption amongst those who have never NEEDED to be gluten free, that what it means is simply buying the [more expensive] gluten free bread instead of the regular bread, or getting the [again, more expensive] gluten free pasta, instead of regular.
On the contrary, I find myself cutting out more carbs than the average diet, with the exception of fruits and veggies. Perhaps I should rather say, I cut out *starch*, rather than simply getting the gluten free alternative.
That's not to say I don't treat myself to baking some GF cookies or, on the extremely rare occasion, getting some bread for toast, but I eat probably half the amount of starchy carbs (again, not counting fruits/veggies--I eat more of them now!) than I did before I went GF. Now I use primarily vegetables and fruit for my carbs, and use much more whole foods than when I was not GF.
Personally, I believe that people who actually need to be GF will do much more research on it and will learn how to be GF without just replacing "regular" with "GF" pre-packaged products.0 -
---Personally, I believe that people who actually need to be GF will do much more research on it and will learn how to be GF without just replacing "regular" with "GF" pre-packaged products---
This! I contemplated my GF challenge for a few months. Regular exercise helped my moods, eating clean, whole foods helped too, but I still felt like I could do more, hence the challenge. I've been filling myself up with more lean proteins and fresh veggies instead of bread and crackers.
I did catch hell from some people who said I was being trendy. Screw them. If I feel better and I'm eating clean, healthy foods (and a few Schars GF pizza crusts now and then ) and it's not hurting anyone, why should they care? My food budget is actually less because we are eating out less! 0 -
Sure there is. For example whole oats, brown and wild rice, barley, buckwheat, quinoa, rye, bulgar and corn are whole grains.Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.
I am not making anything up. All breads and grain products (cereals) are fortified..........even the ones that say "whole grain".
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.0 -
`whatever you decide to do make sure it is sustainable and good for your long term health. I went on a diet about a decade ago that had long term health implications for my bone density.
It is not a bad thing to reduce your intake of processed gluten in things like shop bought bread, biscuits, cakes etc because they use the cheapest bleached flours. This does not mean that you cannot have cous cous or wholegrain rice.
It is not ideal to cut out all good sources of gluten because the outside of wholegrain has vitamin E and you need that for your skin - vital to keep skin supple when dieting or it will go dry.
There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities.
We don't need gluten or grains to get enough Vitamin E.
Sunflower seeds, Almonds, Paprika, Red Chili Powder, Pine nuts, Peanuts, Basil, Oregano, Dried Apricots, Pickled Green Olives, Cooked Spinach and Cooked Taro Root.
Also, here is a list of other foods that are abundant in Vitamin E.
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/vitamin-E.php#vitamin-E-rich-foods
"There is nothing in grains that can not be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables) and in higher quantities."
This is the worst argument for cutting X foods out of your diet, be it gluten, milk or whatever else fad food deletion is passing though the first world populations (and by fad, I mean that strictly for people that don't REQUIRE the deletion for health complication reasons, celiacs, lactose intolerance, etc).
You could sat this about any food.
Ridiculous example #1:
There is nothing in pineapple that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #2:
There is nothing in sweet potatoes that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
Ridiculous example #3:
There is nothing in broccoli that cannot be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities.
That does not mean I will delete pineapple, sweet potatoes, broccoli, grains or milk from my diet (since I have no medical dietary reasons to do so). If I went by that reasoning, I'd never be able to eat anything because everything in everything can be obtained from other sources and in higher quantities. If you are anti gluten, fine, but please find a different, less ridiculous argument in order to state your case.
Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Alright, ignore all the point I made. Keep using that argument and keep not convincing people who see how blatantly ridiculous it is.
Yup, when you've already got your mind made up, there is no need to be confused by facts is there? lol
Whoops, lol.0 -
Sure there is. For example whole oats, brown and wild rice, barley, buckwheat, quinoa, rye, bulgar and corn are whole grains.Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.
I am not making anything up. All breads and grain products (cereals) are fortified..........even the ones that say "whole grain".
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
Well, I guess they were making things up afterall! lol0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.
Or the cash!!!
Seriously, though... There is this assumption amongst those who have never NEEDED to be gluten free, that what it means is simply buying the [more expensive] gluten free bread instead of the regular bread, or getting the [again, more expensive] gluten free pasta, instead of regular.
On the contrary, I find myself cutting out more carbs than the average diet, with the exception of fruits and veggies. Perhaps I should rather say, I cut out *starch*, rather than simply getting the gluten free alternative.
That's not to say I don't treat myself to baking some GF cookies or, on the extremely rare occasion, getting some bread for toast, but I eat probably half the amount of starchy carbs (again, not counting fruits/veggies--I eat more of them now!) than I did before I went GF. Now I use primarily vegetables and fruit for my carbs, and use much more whole foods than when I was not GF.
Personally, I believe that people who actually need to be GF will do much more research on it and will learn how to be GF without just replacing "regular" with "GF" pre-packaged products.
No kidding the cash! My eyes fell out of my head when i went to look for GF bread and saw the price. Thats why i buy it make a sandwhich and put the rest in the freezer for another time, usually a month later. Or for instance a couple of weeks ago i bought a GF frozen pizza. I think its like an 8 inch pizza and it was 11 bucks AND i didnt realize until i got home (im usually so good about looking first) that one serving has over 19 grams of fat!!! I dont know if i will ever eat it. What a waste of money.0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.
Or the cash!!!
Seriously, though... There is this assumption amongst those who have never NEEDED to be gluten free, that what it means is simply buying the [more expensive] gluten free bread instead of the regular bread, or getting the [again, more expensive] gluten free pasta, instead of regular.
On the contrary, I find myself cutting out more carbs than the average diet, with the exception of fruits and veggies. Perhaps I should rather say, I cut out *starch*, rather than simply getting the gluten free alternative.
That's not to say I don't treat myself to baking some GF cookies or, on the extremely rare occasion, getting some bread for toast, but I eat probably half the amount of starchy carbs (again, not counting fruits/veggies--I eat more of them now!) than I did before I went GF. Now I use primarily vegetables and fruit for my carbs, and use much more whole foods than when I was not GF.
Personally, I believe that people who actually need to be GF will do much more research on it and will learn how to be GF without just replacing "regular" with "GF" pre-packaged products.
No kidding the cash! My eyes fell out of my head when i went to look for GF bread and saw the price. Thats why i buy it make a sandwhich and put the rest in the freezer for another time, usually a month later. Or for instance a couple of weeks ago i bought a GF frozen pizza. I think its like an 8 inch pizza and it was 11 bucks AND i didnt realize until i got home (im usually so good about looking first) that one serving has over 19 grams of fat!!! I dont know if i will ever eat it. What a waste of money.0 -
Helps with what?
I'm just trying to explain that the fact you have to peel something doesn't make it bad for you, but you HAVE to do severe processing to grains in order to keep them from being unhealthy. In fact the only grain I would consider un-harmful is white rice.
Whether you consider something healthy does not determine whether it is, in fact, healthy. Eat the way you want, but I prefer to stick to scientific evidence to decide healthy vs. unhealthy for me. Including legumes and grains pretty much daily has been working for 1/2 century for me.0 -
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
This is not true. "Whole grain" does not refer to the whole plant, it is a term that means the germ and bran were not removed before consumption. It is possible to eat many grains "processing" them with nothing other than your hands.0 -
I haven't read any of the posts so I'm sorry if this has been said, but I do not recommend going GF for diet purposes. GF food is high in calories and if you don't have an intolerance, there really isn't a reason to go GF.
Both are lifestyles that take commitment.
Gluten substitutes like the bread and pastries, etc are way high in calories and in fat. Thats why if you go GF you should really go Paleo. I indulge in a GF muffin or bagel now and then but most of the time its not worth burning the extra calories.
Processed GF products like bread and pastas may be high calorie and expensive, but brown rice is a GF grain and is fairly cheap. Even GF grains like quinoa, buckwheat and millet can often be affordable as more and more people want GF products.0 -
Gluten doesn't bother me but I eat pretty close to Paleo any way. I add legumes where they suggest not to. It is great. Sometimes i sneak in a little milk just 'cuz!
I would try gluten free for a week and see how you feel. Once you know if gluten is not your friend, Paleo isa great way to combat. And lose weight, think more clearly. Wish helped me spell better... oh well!0 -
Helps with what?
I'm just trying to explain that the fact you have to peel something doesn't make it bad for you, but you HAVE to do severe processing to grains in order to keep them from being unhealthy. In fact the only grain I would consider un-harmful is white rice.
Whether you consider something healthy does not determine whether it is, in fact, healthy. Eat the way you want, but I prefer to stick to scientific evidence to decide healthy vs. unhealthy for me. Including legumes and grains pretty much daily has been working for 1/2 century for me.
Yeah, right.............just like the so called scientific evidence that stated that Cholesterol and saturated fat is what caused heart disease and now you have so many heart doctors and surgeons coming out saying it is the refined grains and other refined carbohydrates and sugar that causes it, not the cholesterol and saturated fat.
<BIG roll eyes> The new scientific research is telling a much different story than what you have been told. I will continue to go with the NEWEST research, not research that is so old and outdated.
And I will say this..............the way I went back to eating, is the way I grew up eating. To have even home made bread, or any heavy carbohydrates when I was growing up was a rare thing. We grew up eating, meats, fats, fruits and vegetables and RAW dairy straight from the farm.
There is something to that, as that is how most farmers live still where I grew up and now live again.
Here is just one of many doctors that are starting to speak out more and more:
http://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease0 -
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
This is not true. "Whole grain" does not refer to the whole plant, it is a term that means the germ and bran were not removed before consumption. It is possible to eat many grains "processing" them with nothing other than your hands.
That small sprinkling of what they call whole grain is ground up so fine and still have to be fortied with nutrients because yes, they are still stripping the nutrients out when they process it to be fit to be consumed.
That sounds real healthy. I prefer to eat things that don't need to be fortified with nutrients to be eaten and considered healthy.
You are the exact type of person (and there are many of you out there) that they want. Sheeple that just eat up and drink the koolaid of false knowledge they feed you.
As someone else mentioned, white rice is the only "safe" grain, if there are any safe grains.
Quinoa is not a grain either. It is a seed.0 -
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
This is not true. "Whole grain" does not refer to the whole plant, it is a term that means the germ and bran were not removed before consumption. It is possible to eat many grains "processing" them with nothing other than your hands.
That small sprinkling of what they call whole grain is ground up so fine and still have to be fortied with nutrients because yes, they are still stripping the nutrients out when they process it to be fit to be consumed.
That sounds real healthy. I prefer to eat things that don't need to be fortified with nutrients to be eaten and considered healthy.
You are the exact type of person (and there are many of you out there) that they want. Sheeple that just eat up and drink the koolaid of false knowledge they feed you.
As someone else mentioned, white rice is the only "safe" grain, if there are any safe grains.
Quinoa is not a grain either. It is a seed.
News flash, grains are seeds too. How do you think wheat reproduces? Live birth?0 -
Sure there is. For example whole oats, brown and wild rice, barley, buckwheat, quinoa, rye, bulgar and corn are whole grains.Grains are not the healthy source they are made out to be. There are many other nutritional sources that provide higher amounts of nutrients, as I mentioned in my first post, fruits and vegetables.
It is not a ridiculous argument at all. It is a true statement to say that there are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained from other sources (fruits and vegetables). After all, grains have to be fortified to be nutritious, fruits and vegetables don't.
Refined grains are fortified in the UK because refining strips them of their nutrients, wholegrains are not. If what you claim is true I have no idea why wholegrains are fortified in the US. Fruits and vegetables are not a like-for-like substitute for the nutrients in grains - beans, lentils, nuts and seeds are closer.
I am not aware of whole grains being fortified in the US. Sounds like someone is making things up.
I am not making anything up. All breads and grain products (cereals) are fortified..........even the ones that say "whole grain".
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
Quinoa is not a grain, it is a seed.
And these are not technically "whole grains"................they are still highly processed in order to be eaten. You can't go to any field and pick these items and eat them.
And really, the only "whole grain" are rice and corn (which we both know if not very nutritious and doesn't even digest in our system, so it is useless to eat).
I don't eat for the reasons that you all eat. I eat for nutriiton and health reasons. Not to maintain some arbitrary calorie goal.0 -
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
This is not true. "Whole grain" does not refer to the whole plant, it is a term that means the germ and bran were not removed before consumption. It is possible to eat many grains "processing" them with nothing other than your hands.
That small sprinkling of what they call whole grain is ground up so fine and still have to be fortied with nutrients because yes, they are still stripping the nutrients out when they process it to be fit to be consumed.
That sounds real healthy. I prefer to eat things that don't need to be fortified with nutrients to be eaten and considered healthy.
You are the exact type of person (and there are many of you out there) that they want. Sheeple that just eat up and drink the koolaid of false knowledge they feed you.
As someone else mentioned, white rice is the only "safe" grain, if there are any safe grains.
Quinoa is not a grain either. It is a seed.
News flash, grains are seeds too. How do you think wheat reproduces? Live birth?
Grains are grasses if you want to get technical. Not all grains are seeds. Quinoa is more closelessy related to beets and tumbleweed, not wheat, rye or barley.0 -
There really is no such thing as "whole grain". You can't eat it straight from the plant out of a field and it has to be highly processed in order to be edible.
This is not true. "Whole grain" does not refer to the whole plant, it is a term that means the germ and bran were not removed before consumption. It is possible to eat many grains "processing" them with nothing other than your hands.
That small sprinkling of what they call whole grain is ground up so fine and still have to be fortied with nutrients because yes, they are still stripping the nutrients out when they process it to be fit to be consumed.
That sounds real healthy. I prefer to eat things that don't need to be fortified with nutrients to be eaten and considered healthy.
You are the exact type of person (and there are many of you out there) that they want. Sheeple that just eat up and drink the koolaid of false knowledge they feed you.
As someone else mentioned, white rice is the only "safe" grain, if there are any safe grains.
Quinoa is not a grain either. It is a seed.
News flash, grains are seeds too. How do you think wheat reproduces? Live birth?
Grains are grasses if you want to get technical. Not all grains are seeds. Quinoa is more closelessy related to beets and tumbleweed, not wheat, rye or barley.
I don't want to get technical, I want to get accurate.
Grains are not grasses but a part of them. All grains are seeds. Yes, they are in a different class of plants but that doesn't change that grains are seeds just as much as quinoa. Merriam Webster's definition of a grain: a seed or fruit of a cereal grass.0 -
I tried it and it is very yeasty tasting.I eat paleo and I actually think more clearly and I'm embarrassed to say I'm not as quick to anger when avoiding gluten.
I have massive mood swings if I eat gluten. I have Celiacs, and if I even have the smallest bit I'm flipping out over every little thing. Its awful.
Wow - this is the first I've heard of mood swings on gluten! And I thought I was the only one! Ever since I went off of gluten, I have had virtually NO PMS. And trust me, the PMS I had was so profoundly bad that I'd be a raging lunatic one moment, a crying nut job the next. I'd even catch myself laughing WHILE crying.
I thought it was all in my head -- but sure enough, I haven't had bad PMS in two years -- and I'm on the cusp of menopause.
Thanks for sharing, I don't feel so crazy anymore!
I'm actually three weeks into a GF trial to see if gluten affects my moods as well. I have PMDD, aka PMS on crack. I'm in the worst week of the PMDD cycle right now and I feel great. It wasn't nearly as hard to avoid the gluten as I thought it would be (since I'm such a carb wh0re). I've just been making smarter choices. I feel great, not bloaty, and I've been better able to stick to my calorie range. I've also lost almost 3 lbs in three weeks.
I think this may be a permanent change for me. I am a beer lover though, so I may cheat once in a while and I'm not too worried about cross contamination as I don't have celiac or a sensitivity (that I know of), but the drastic reduction in my gluten consumption has definitely been positive for me. Sorry for crazy run-on sentence.
There is gluten free beer out there! I can't remember the name, but do a search for it and get some. Several restaurants have added it to their stock as a way to accommodate those with food allergens. I'm not a beer drinker (never was), but I know brands exist -- and you won't be need to give up your beer!0
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