DIET SODAS!!

Hi,
I have just read an interesting article - see below. It kind of confirms a few issues have had myself. Purchased diet variations of hot and cold drinks and other artificially sweetened products and felt off par after consuming.
Is the aspartame to blame?


Excerpt taken from social networking site:

Sweet KILLER.

"In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.

By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.

She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.

I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her an article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.

She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind. In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda.. and literally dying a slow and miserable death

When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as'Nutra Sweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.

Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.

In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia. During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs,
Cramps,
Vertigo,
Dizziness,
Headaches,
Tinnitus,
Joint pain,
Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!' People were jumping up during the lecture saying,'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates.

It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!

These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'

Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures, Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks, Uncontrollable anger and rage.Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well. Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.

So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.

There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

This has been recently exposed in the New York Times. These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.

The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioural symptoms.
The bill was killed.It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!"
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  • http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

    Not to be a jerk, but always check the sources from internet claims on snopes... many emails and articles on facebook are completely false.

    That being said, all sodas are unhealthy. Go water! :happy:
  • pyrowill
    pyrowill Posts: 1,163 Member
    Some food for thought, although I have my doubts on legitimacy fo anything that starts with "Excerpt from a Social Networking site"
  • This has all been doing the rounds for years in varying forms and is a known fake. I'm not saying that diet drinks and aspartame are healthy, but so much is made of stuff that has little to no scientific back up. Some of the science is this is so dodgy as to be quite alarming - for example formaldehyde is contained in a lot of food stuffs, our body is designed to deal with it.

    I'm a great believer in common sense - if its manufactured then chances are its not particularly good for you - always best to go natural - but then our tap water is full of chemicals too. Life is just way too short to get too stressed out about this stuff - stay as natural as possible but one thing is guaranteed - none of us will get out of this alive, something is guaranteed to kill us ;-)
  • lsapphire
    lsapphire Posts: 297 Member
    Unfortunetly there is some truth to this. I know first hand and my doctor backed me up.
  • FitBeto
    FitBeto Posts: 2,121 Member
    Cats are more dangerous

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  • Cats are more dangerous

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    Omg!!! That had to hurt... I'm just loving the double insult of the guitar.... exercise is thus categorically proven to be bad for you :-)
  • karenf289
    karenf289 Posts: 47 Member
    Thanks all, I obviously understand that there maybe room for over expressing dangers in certain additives. If something that was so dangerous why would it be still in use?
    Just curious to know what others thought. Your feed back is appreciated. :smile:
    Btw I do not generally consume much in the way of diet sodas, just as an occasional mixer :)
  • karenf289
    karenf289 Posts: 47 Member
    Cats are more dangerous

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    Yup!
  • Chrissy180
    Chrissy180 Posts: 30 Member
    Study was just published on this..see yahoo news
  • karenf289
    karenf289 Posts: 47 Member
  • kat5556
    kat5556 Posts: 164 Member
    But there was also an interesting article yesterday on the connection to diet soda and type 2 diabetes.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/diet-soda-drinkers-greater-risk-diabetes-study-article-1.1257846

    Personally I don't drink the stuff and even though Snopes reports aspartame as being okay, I've known several people with health issues to the immune system and were heavy diet soda drinkers. My uncle was not getting better even with a team of medial doctors and it wasn't until he gave up the diet pepsi's that he began to get better and the medicine started helping.

    BTW - the cat video is hysterical! :laugh:
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    But there was also an interesting article yesterday on the connection to diet soda and type 2 diabetes.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/diet-soda-drinkers-greater-risk-diabetes-study-article-1.1257846

    Personally I don't drink the stuff and even though Snopes reports aspartame as being okay, I've known several people with health issues to the immune system and were heavy diet soda drinkers. My uncle was not getting better even with a team of medial doctors and it wasn't until he gave up the diet pepsi's that he began to get better and the medicine started helping.

    BTW - the cat video is hysterical! :laugh:

    Correlation not causation. From your article:

    "We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB (artificially sweetened beverages)... are responsible for the association with diabetes."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/diet-soda-drinkers-greater-risk-diabetes-study-article-1.1257846#ixzz2KPGyraGb

    Also they did not control other factors like diet. Intake was self-reported.
  • Cats are more dangerous

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    basically.
  • Iron_Pheonix
    Iron_Pheonix Posts: 191 Member
    Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Thanks all, I obviously understand that there maybe room for over expressing dangers in certain additives. If something that was so dangerous why would it be still in use?
    Just curious to know what others thought. Your feed back is appreciated. :smile:
    Btw I do not generally consume much in the way of diet sodas, just as an occasional mixer :)

    I have done a LOT of dangerous things in life. Ingesting aspartame is safe because I have no sensitivity to it.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.

    Even water is made of chemicals: hydrogen and oxygen.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I personally wouldn't touch the stuff but this is the reason why (other than the obvious health implications):

    From Norfolk Genetic Information Network (Taken from Welcome to the Spin Machine by Michael Manville http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/04/biotech/ http://www.freezerbox.com/ )

    "In 1985 Monsanto purchased G.D. Searle, the chemical company that held the patent to Aspartame, the active ingredient in NutraSweet. Monsanto was apparently untroubled by Aspartame's clouded past, including a 1980 FDA Board of Inquiry, comprised of three independent scientists, which confirmed that it 'might induce brain tumors.'

    The FDA had actually banned Aspartame based on this finding, only to have Searle Chairman, Donald Rumsfeld [Secretary of Defense under Bush Jr.] vow to "call in his markers," to get it approved.

    On January 21, 1981, the day after Ronald Reagan's inauguration, Searle re-applied to the FDA for approval to use Aspartame in food sweeteners, and Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hull, Jr., appointed a 5-person Scientific Commission to review the board of inquiry's decision.

    It soon became clear that the panel would uphold the ban by a 3-2 decision, but Hull then installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked. He then personally broke the tie in Aspartame's favor. Hull later left the FDA under allegations of impropriety, served briefly as Provost at New York Medical College, and then took a position with Burston-Marsteller, the chief public relations firm for both Monsanto and GD Searle. Since that time, he has never spoken publicly about Aspartame."

    In my opinion, it is even possible that the "fake" and debunked stories on the web were a deliberate disinformation campaign put out by the various parties who stand to profit off of the sales of said sweetener. That is a common machination---put out a false exaggeration, debunk it and then everyone heaves a sigh of relief and continue to poison their body with a slow poison.
  • Monica_has_a_goal
    Monica_has_a_goal Posts: 694 Member
    Thank you for this article. My mother has always warned me about diet foods and drinks, knowing they're full of chemicals.

    Now, I'll be sure to listen and not buy them for myself or my family. I'm going to inform everyone I know that artificial sweetners like Aspartame are bad bad bad for you and everyone.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for this information. It has come at the right time!! :flowerforyou:
  • Monica_has_a_goal
    Monica_has_a_goal Posts: 694 Member
    Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.

    Even water is made of chemicals: hydrogen and oxygen.

    BUt WATER or H2O won't kill you or make you sick! :noway:
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.

    Even water is made of chemicals: hydrogen and oxygen.

    BUt WATER or H2O won't kill you or make you sick! :noway:


    It can if you drink too much. It will kill you graveyard dead! When discussing toxicity, dosage is a critical component.
  • Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.

    Even water is made of chemicals: hydrogen and oxygen.

    BUt WATER or H2O won't kill you or make you sick! :noway:

    Ok, so read this which is information about what is put into the water that we drink... water won't kill you, but what about the chemicals in it? Not in any way arguing that diet soda is safer - far from it, rarely touch the stuff - but basic tap water:

    Many prominent scientists are alarmed by the content of some drinking water and actively seek to change the processes involved. The practice of making water safe to drink actually involves adding large amounts of extremely poisonous chemicals to it. Key scientists are now providing evidence that long-term ingestion of small amounts of chemicals like these could be the cause of some major health problems.

    Here is a list of just a few of the chemicals routinely added to our water supply:

    Liquified chlorine
    Fluorosilicic acid
    Aluminium sulphate
    Calcium hydroxide
    Sodium silicofluoride
    Even if the water leaves the source in a relatively clean state, don't forget that your water travels through pipes, which may have been underground since Victorian times. It is almost impossible for the water not to become contaminated by something undesirable.

    Contaminants in Tap Water

    Tap water is treated with a large number of chemicals in order to kill bacteria and other microorganisms. In addition, it may contain other undesirable contaminants like toxic metal salts, hormones and pesticides, or it may become contaminated by chemicals or microbes within pipes (e.g. lead, bacteria, protozoa).


    Typical Tap Water Content:

    Chlorine
    Fluorine compounds
    Trihalomethanes (THMs)
    Salts of:
    arsenic
    radium
    aluminium
    copper
    lead
    mercury
    cadmium
    barium
    Hormones
    Nitrates
    Pesticides
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    http://thebodyevolutionreport.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/aspartame-and-sucralose-youre-on-trial.html
    What really amuses me is that while Aspartame is ‘bad’ (for people with Phenylketonuria) and everyone must avoid it, bananas have MORE Phenylalanine than what is found in Aspartame! Yet you do not hear ANYONE say bananas are ‘bad’ and should be avoided. Also if you drink protein shakes or eat protein from whole food you are consuming more Phenylalanine than what is in a diet soft drink.
  • Iron_Pheonix
    Iron_Pheonix Posts: 191 Member
    Why would anyone want to drink chemicals? It's dangerous but unfortunately you'll find many people on here looking for a reason to continue a bad habit. You'll get plenty of people with research saying its safe as much as anyone can prove its not but personally with knowing the political reasoning behind most of these things being approved as safe, I don't trust them or their recommendations. I eat things that grew from the ground or live and only natural grass fed meat. I sure as Hell am not going to be taking the risk with my children's health!

    Unfortunately your post is one of a number on this subject this week and you'll only get the same responses sadly.

    Even water is made of chemicals: hydrogen and oxygen.


    Water is essential to life, diet soda is not. Thank you for proving my point about excuses.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I don't have any concerns over diet soda in moderate amounts assuming the individual does not have phenylketonuria.

    The claim that it's dangerous without any mention of dose and context is pretty laughable.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I don't have any concerns over diet soda in moderate amounts assuming the individual does not have phenylketonuria.

    The claim that it's dangerous without any mention of dose and context is pretty laughable.

    Did you read the material that I posted? The FDA's experts, had judged that it could cause brain cancer.
  • Crankstr
    Crankstr Posts: 3,958 Member
    meh
  • danasings
    danasings Posts: 8,218 Member
    Thanks all, I obviously understand that there maybe room for over expressing dangers in certain additives. If something that was so dangerous why would it be still in use?
    Just curious to know what others thought. Your feed back is appreciated. :smile:
    Btw I do not generally consume much in the way of diet sodas, just as an occasional mixer :)

    Someone else posted that exact "article" pulled from Facebook last Saturday. I will recommend snopes.com again.
  • danasings
    danasings Posts: 8,218 Member
    I don't have any concerns over diet soda in moderate amounts assuming the individual does not have phenylketonuria.

    The claim that it's dangerous without any mention of dose and context is pretty laughable.

    Did you read the material that I posted? The FDA's experts, had judged that it could cause brain cancer.

    The FDA's EXPERTS? The FDA is a joke...wait, never mind. I'm not going there today.

    *goes back to minding my own beeswax*