i dont understand some people here
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Wow, you might wanna add 'lose the attitude' to your ticker.Yes- Let's act like adults, shall we? Last time I checked, adults don't whine and cry and stomp their feet every time someone disagrees with them or makes a joke they don't like. Adults do not run around snitching on other people, trying to get them punished for some small offense. Adults don't call meetings to rant every time someone they know hurts their feelings. An adult should - when they see or hear something they don't like - be able to have the self control to ignore it and move onto something else.
Just because we're all here to lose weight/improve our fitness does not make us all compatible. Do you like everyone in real life? I sure as hell don't. So why would I like everyone on this site?0 -
You are exactly right! Some feel that they need to put others down to make themselves feel better, but that doesn't actually work. I love when everyone works together to motivate one another and encourage one another! My MFP friends help me so much. I appreciate them all.0
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It depends on what you mean by negative...a lot of people perceive disagreement as negative...or correcting nonsense as negative. If someone asks me if raspberry keytones are going to help them lose weight I'm going to tell them it's bull****...because it is. A lot of people just post pure nonsense that has no basis in science...a lot of us are going to call bull**** on that because it is in fact, bull ****.
When I first started, I didn't know my head from my *kitten* when it came to this stuff. I believed in several unsubstantiated myths and fairy tales...I thank the people that called bull****. Also, many do this with sarcasm...largely because a lot of the same bull**** comes up endlessly on this forum. Never mind the posters who post something just plain stupid like the post yesterday about peoples background in their profile pics being in messy rooms or whatever...people who post stupid **** are going to get railed.
Support isn't always hand holding and agreeing with someone...sometimes support is tough love...it's not beating around the bush and trying to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy.0 -
Lol! Too funny! Just read what I said people, All's I was saying was that I wish their were more positive than negative on this site.Before anyone else can beat me to it:
it is being positive when someone genuinely tries to help you by negating wrong ideas about weightloss0 -
Aren't we all here for the same common goal? To lose weight, get fit, and to be healthy.
Yes and no. And the negative comments are generally how you perceive them. Most people on here give good feedback but if it isn't what you want to hear they are told they are mean an nasty and blah blah blah.
Also this is the internet, there are a lot of different people here and people rarely get along if your new to earth welcome, but know that not everyone ever frucking gets along all the time. Its just the way it is.0 -
How one reads a post can dictate how one responds as a negative or positive. Go to this one and read it.
Its hard to tell on the internet for 1, and for 2 if you don't know the person its hard to say. I appreciate your post.PERCEPTION.
Lots of time people FAIL to see humor, sarcasm or directness.
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!0
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As a parent, one of the greatest strengths I can teach my daughters is self-confidence. If someone is mean to them at school, I talk to them about their own choices, their actions. The focus is not on the "mean" person. Why give negativity more attention than it deserves?
Obviously, if my kid was assaulted, I'm not going to ignore that. But in nearly every scenario, my kid has a choice to react. She has some control over how much something bothers her. We have many discussions about words, and the power words have vs. the power we give to words.
There are "mean" people in the world. Calling them out doesn't change that. The number of people on the Internet who have been called out in a forum, then changed their behavior based on being publicly called out, is a very small number. I propose that it is a waste of time and energy to even call them out. You will never find agreement among a group of people on what is direct, honest feedback and what is rude/mean/uncalled for/hurtful. Unless that group is small and very like-minded. In other words, not an Internet forum open to the world.
Rather than name-calling and postulating why someone might be rude/mean/etc., why not focus on the people we claim to care about? If someone's feelings are hurt, and you want to help that person, isn't focusing on that person the right call? I like to encourage others to not take Internet comments seriously, try to learn from different view points, ignore name calling, etc. Isn't that ultimately more helpful than calling out faceless meanies?
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Support isn't always hand holding and agreeing with someone...sometimes support is tough love...it's not beating around the bush and trying to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy.
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As a parent, one of the greatest strengths I can teach my daughters is self-confidence. If someone is mean to them at school, I talk to them about their own choices, their actions. The focus is not on the "mean" person. Why give negativity more attention than it deserves?
Obviously, if my kid was assaulted, I'm not going to ignore that. But it nearly every scenario, my kid has a choice to react. She has some control over how much something bothers her. We have many discussions about words, and the power words have vs. the power we give to words.
There are "mean" people in the world. Calling them out doesn't change that. The number of people on the Internet who have been called out in a forum, then changed their behavior based on being publicly called out, is a very small number. I propose that it is a waste of time and energy to even call them out. You will never find agreement among a group of people on what is direct, honest feedback and what is rude/mean/uncalled for/hurtful. Unless that group is a small and very like-minded. In other words, not an Internet forum open to the world.
Rather than name-calling and postulating why someone might be rude/mean/etc., yhy not focus on the people we claim to care about? If someone's feelings are hurt, and you want to help that person, isn't focusing on that person the right call? I like to encourage others to not take Internet comments seriously, try to learn from different view points, ignore name calling, etc. Isn't that ultimately more helpful than calling out faceless meanies?
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
I'm curious, as an OP that I'm surprised to see isn't flying off the handle (that often happens) and seems pretty patient in responding to people on here, what you found to be the negative and positive reactions. Were the people agreeing that, "Yes, there's so much negativity here!" the "average human who thinks more negatively?" Or were the people saying, "Yeah, it happens; we get over it" or "Actually, perception's a tricksy thing, and I don't think it's all that negative here" the negative ones?0 -
I stopped trying to understand people a LONG time ago.
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
I'm curious, as an OP that I'm surprised to see isn't flying off the handle (that often happens) and seems pretty patient in responding to people on here, what you found to be the negative and positive reactions. Were the people agreeing that, "Yes, there's so much negativity here!" the "average human who thinks more negatively?" Or were the people saying, "Yeah, it happens; we get over it" or "Actually, perception's a tricksy thing, and I don't think it's all that negative here" the negative ones?
I suppose that's all in ones opinion. Crazy how the mind works isn't it? Thanks for your reply!0 -
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I think the forums sometimes turn into a race to see who can post the most GIFs and sarcastic statements, which can be frustrating for a newbie (or anyone seriously looking for advice).0
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
I'm curious, as an OP that I'm surprised to see isn't flying off the handle (that often happens) and seems pretty patient in responding to people on here, what you found to be the negative and positive reactions. Were the people agreeing that, "Yes, there's so much negativity here!" the "average human who thinks more negatively?" Or were the people saying, "Yeah, it happens; we get over it" or "Actually, perception's a tricksy thing, and I don't think it's all that negative here" the negative ones?
I suppose that's all in ones opinion. Crazy how the mind works isn't it? Thanks for your reply!
Aww, I wanted to know what you thought. That's why I asked!0 -
I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm curious why you state this as "proven fact." Do you have a source? I'm interested in reading it. Thanks.Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives.0 -
Must be your first day on the world wide web...
Take what helps you, leave the rest.0 -
Somewhere between threads like this (mean people suck) and the other thread I saw today (get over it whiner), are quite a few of us who are occasionally supportive and helpful in a sappy kind of way, often supportive and helpful but with a humorous bent, and ever so rarely truly abrasive. No one is perfect. Learn to ride out the bumps and choose not to be affected by the negative. Now I'm off to try and take my own advice . . .0
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Yes- Let's act like adults, shall we? Last time I checked, adults don't whine and cry and stomp their feet every time someone disagrees with them or makes a joke they don't like. Adults do not run around snitching on other people, trying to get them punished for some small offense. Adults don't call meetings to rant every time someone they know hurts their feelings. An adult should - when they see or hear something they don't like - be able to have the self control to ignore it and move onto something else.
Just because we're all here to lose weight/improve our fitness does not make us all compatible. Do you like everyone in real life? I sure as hell don't. So why would I like everyone on this site?
I send off my opinions on a public forum and some cyber-strangers don't like what I say and they tell me in a way I don't like? Big dang deal, very little of what is written here is a fact, just opinion. So they didn't agree with me, so they didn't show me respect for what I wrote or for my right to have an opinion. Big dang deal, writing what they felt was as much their right. If I don't like what they write in response or how they respond, why complain about what is just as much their right to post? Only one person on this site has ever given me a Christmas gift and I feel their opinion truly matters past the moment I read it...my wife. And I tell her how to feel about what I write and on every issue here.0 -
What no money on the bedside table?Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
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I agree 100%
This is a new account for me, but on an old account when i first started out eating healthily, any advice i asked for in the forum was met with judgemental comments by people who've been eating well for a year.
I appreciate some people are just that way, but considering they probably started out as clueless as the newbies, they should be less bloody snappy and more helpful. Banter is one thing, ridiculing is another.0 -
Ken - you hit the nail on the head. Again. As usual.As a parent, one of the greatest strengths I can teach my daughters is self-confidence. If someone is mean to them at school, I talk to them about their own choices, their actions. The focus is not on the "mean" person. Why give negativity more attention than it deserves?
Obviously, if my kid was assaulted, I'm not going to ignore that. But in nearly every scenario, my kid has a choice to react. She has some control over how much something bothers her. We have many discussions about words, and the power words have vs. the power we give to words.
There are "mean" people in the world. Calling them out doesn't change that. The number of people on the Internet who have been called out in a forum, then changed their behavior based on being publicly called out, is a very small number. I propose that it is a waste of time and energy to even call them out. You will never find agreement among a group of people on what is direct, honest feedback and what is rude/mean/uncalled for/hurtful. Unless that group is small and very like-minded. In other words, not an Internet forum open to the world.
Rather than name-calling and postulating why someone might be rude/mean/etc., why not focus on the people we claim to care about? If someone's feelings are hurt, and you want to help that person, isn't focusing on that person the right call? I like to encourage others to not take Internet comments seriously, try to learn from different view points, ignore name calling, etc. Isn't that ultimately more helpful than calling out faceless meanies?
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Wow, you might wanna add 'lose the attitude' to your ticker.Yes- Let's act like adults, shall we? Last time I checked, adults don't whine and cry and stomp their feet every time someone disagrees with them or makes a joke they don't like. Adults do not run around snitching on other people, trying to get them punished for some small offense. Adults don't call meetings to rant every time someone they know hurts their feelings. An adult should - when they see or hear something they don't like - be able to have the self control to ignore it and move onto something else.
Just because we're all here to lose weight/improve our fitness does not make us all compatible. Do you like everyone in real life? I sure as hell don't. So why would I like everyone on this site?
Why? Do you think not enjoying whiners is a bad attitude to have? I respectfully disagree. I still don't like whining.0 -
As a parent, one of the greatest strengths I can teach my daughters is self-confidence. If someone is mean to them at school, I talk to them about their own choices, their actions. The focus is not on the "mean" person. Why give negativity more attention than it deserves?
Obviously, if my kid was assaulted, I'm not going to ignore that. But in nearly every scenario, my kid has a choice to react. She has some control over how much something bothers her. We have many discussions about words, and the power words have vs. the power we give to words.
There are "mean" people in the world. Calling them out doesn't change that. The number of people on the Internet who have been called out in a forum, then changed their behavior based on being publicly called out, is a very small number. I propose that it is a waste of time and energy to even call them out. You will never find agreement among a group of people on what is direct, honest feedback and what is rude/mean/uncalled for/hurtful. Unless that group is small and very like-minded. In other words, not an Internet forum open to the world.
Rather than name-calling and postulating why someone might be rude/mean/etc., why not focus on the people we claim to care about? If someone's feelings are hurt, and you want to help that person, isn't focusing on that person the right call? I like to encourage others to not take Internet comments seriously, try to learn from different view points, ignore name calling, etc. Isn't that ultimately more helpful than calling out faceless meanies?
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Its hard to tell on the internet for 1, and for 2 if you don't know the person its hard to say. I appreciate your post.PERCEPTION.
Lots of time people FAIL to see humor, sarcasm or directness.
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No it isn't. Sarcasm is easy to see in written form.0 -
i agree OP. people have all types or personalities. I just stick with those who act like mature adults and can behave. stay away from the ones who act rude.0
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OP, you're making the assumption that all adults are compassionate, respectful, well-adjusted human beings who are motivated to do the right thing by a personal sense of integrity. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Many adults are small-minded, insecure, vain, unintelligent people who get off on making people feel worse, and who bolster their own egos by trying to appear clever at the expense of others.
Rise above and move on.0
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