Logging 'food preparation?' /rant

JessHealthKick

Hey, so as I warned this is a rant... I want your opinions on this.

I have seen people logging food preparation, washing dishes, even 2mins walking up stairs. Is this getting a bit ridiculous? I see those everyday actions as being part of my net personally.

Should I log it every time I use the bathroom? And add extra calories if it's a little more difficult than usual? Like seriously people, be realistic... unless you are doing a strenuous amount of housework I don't see why this should be logged. But do prove me wrong, please, I'd like to giggle at the reasoning.

Cheers,

A grumpy Aussie

kristafb

I agree! everyday,normal day to day stuff isn't going to help you lose weight. You are doing that anyway. I only count my actual exercise, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary like shovelling snow (more like ordinary these days) or mowing the lawn in the summer.

spozzybear

From one grumpy Aussie to another, people who log that **** have way too much time on their hands

kbeech06

Honestly...why does it bother you what they do? Its not hurting you. It doesn't effect you at all. Just ignore it and do what works for you. I imagine, if I was someone who normally just sat all day and did nothing but watch telly all day, and suddenly started to move more, yeah I may log those things. I've logged my housework before....but I was doing a deep clean, scrubbing floors on hands and knees cleaning cabinets and walls...and I didn't get a chance to "workout" that day, so that was my exercise.

Princess_Sameen

It is slightly annoying that people log that. I dont log my horses duties...unless it has been a full day down the farm working! Otherwise mucking out and lifting hay is a daily occurance that I have done for over 15years so seems silly to class it as exercise. But overall everyone is different and as Kbeech is right doesnt hurt me so whatever rocks your boat

benol1

Hey, so as I warned this is a rant... I want your opinions on this.

I have seen people logging food preparation, washing dishes, even 2mins walking up stairs. Is this getting a bit ridiculous? I see those everyday actions as being part of my net personally.

Should I log it every time I use the bathroom? And add extra calories if it's a little more difficult than usual? Like seriously people, be realistic... unless you are doing a strenuous amount of housework I don't see why this should be logged. But do prove me wrong, please, I'd like to giggle at the reasoning.

Cheers,

A grumpy Aussie

I'm sorry, I can't give you anything to giggle at.
Its ridiculous.
kind regards,

Ben

chooriyah

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

trudijoy

I'm on the fence. If theyre using it as an excuse to eat back calories, they're only cheating themselves. If they're merely trying to figure out their daily burn or wondering how much random things burn (been there, even typed in 'sex' just to see if it was in there ) then it's all good. I don't really care what people add to their own diary, but if they're talking about a 'good excercise day' and half of that was life, i do indeed roll my eyes at them :laugh:

runlikeananna

Yes its a bit of a dodge on real training. I deliberately park further away from places so I can get a bit more walking in my day. Perhaps I should log that... nah. Can't be stuffed wearing my hrm.

Railr0aderTony

if it is out of the ordinary, like food prep for a party, or if they are sedidary then its fine. Some people do not go to the gym that does not mean they do not burn calories. I for one think if they are logging it wrong they are hurting nobody but themselves. Hope you feel better after your rant, and do not forget to log your calories burnt

trudijoy

Hope you feel better after your rant, and do not forget to log your calories burnt

:laugh:

shastar01902

How do I start a topic?

Pookylou

If they have their activity levels set at sedentary then everything they do above and beyond sitting IS exercise. Also if they are extremely over weight walking up the stairs for 2 mins could well be a great achievement for them. Cooking a huge meal/kneading dough etc is hard work!

Also does it matter what they log? If they're doing it for more calories, to "cheat" themselves, what impact does that have on you? Nothing. If it annoys you SO much delete them as a friend.

Givemewings

I'm not sure why you feel the need to mock people and why it bothers you, but If this works for people I don't see a problem with it. I have my MFP settings at sedentary. If I have a day when I make a big effort at being active all day, including traditional exercise, cleaning , and sometimes even food preparation for the family, then I sometimes put on my HRM to record the calories I burn. It's amazing how many calories can be burned doing these things. What does it matter how you burn those calories as long as you are doing it? I understand it might seem a little over the top to some, but it works for me. I will be at my goal weight soon and it shouldn't matter how I got there.

TavistockToad

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

you eat camel?

Elleinnz

Personally I don't log anything that I would have done when I was getting fatter - it did not stop me from getting fat - so why on earth would it now help me get thin!!

trudijoy

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

you eat camel?

I would eat camel

JessHealthKick

Honestly...why does it bother you what they do? Its not hurting you. It doesn't effect you at all. Just ignore it and do what works for you. I imagine, if I was someone who normally just sat all day and did nothing but watch telly all day, and suddenly started to move more, yeah I may log those things. I've logged my housework before....but I was doing a deep clean, scrubbing floors on hands and knees cleaning cabinets and walls...and I didn't get a chance to "workout" that day, so that was my exercise.

It bothers me because these people want to change their lifestyle and are unhappy, but are just cheating themselves. I feel sad when I log over my calorie count for example, but I don't kid myself and try to find the lowest cal recipes on MFP. I but in the legit amount I ate, and if it was over then it was over.

It's just a cop out to see someone did 2 hours of cardio every day and realise it's food prep, washing etc. Man, I should have been in a deficit before changing my lifestyle if that was the case! It's just silly.

I already warned it as a rant. So meh

JessHealthKick

I'm prepping salmon/dinner now. How many cals do you think it takes guys? then I have a 7min walk to station and 20 stairs to walk up. How many cals? Should I use my HRM??

sorry it's just silly and annoys me. People, be LOGICAL

kbeech06

OK, I understand, but say someone weighs 300+ pounds, and really normally does NOTHING, all day. ANYTHING that they start doing, ie food prep, house work, is a plus to them. You can't judge someone else because you don't live their lives. And like someone else said...IF they are cheating anyone, its themselves....not you.
Its ok to rant...lol...I do it all the time :bigsmile:

chooriyah

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

you eat camel?

I don't eat camel, but I drive by a camel butcher every day on the way to work.

I'm a pescetarian, and one of the reasons is the cute baby camels out the front of the shop every morning, and the heads/necks on display every evening...

MissPeppers

IMO: It's counterproductive at best to log other then very strenuous workouts if you eat back your exercise kcals. Or if you use the kcal calculation for anything at all.

But this is not the worst I've seen; I used CalorieCount earlier - there's actually someone who's added "Taking medication" for logging. :sad:

TavistockToad

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

you eat camel?

I would eat camel

camel is tasty!

TavistockToad

I don't eat camel, but I drive by a camel butcher every day on the way to work.

I'm a pescetarian, and one of the reasons is the cute baby camels out the front of the shop every morning, and the heads/necks on display every evening...

i can see why you wouldnt eat camel! it is tasty though!!

do you think he really does it by hand though?! that would be a good workout... we should make a dvd of that, i think it would sell better than insanity if we created a food plan, using said sliced and diced camel as the main protein source....!!!!

trudijoy

Haven't seen that - pretty funny...

Maybe it was something super intense, like butchering a camel.

Or grinding sausage meat by hand.

Or squeezing a tonne of oranges by hand.

Or pulping grapes for wine by stamping on them.

Or kneading a massive amount of dough for one hour.

Or...ok, I'm just getting carried away now. I don't actually think it was any of those things, but it was fun to think about what would be worth logging.

you eat camel?

I would eat camel

camel is tasty!

i bet! i've eaten a lot of random stuff living in asia, but not camel. and i want to!

714rah714

Have you consider removing these people from your friends list, it'll save you from being annoyed

serenalesley

One way of using MFP is to set activity to 'sedentary', then log anything that increases your heart rate, because if your heart rate is increased then you're burning more calories than 'sedentary'. What raises someone's heart rate depends on their weight and their level of fitness, and also what they're used to doing normally. Someone who is heavy and unfit, and/or someone recovering from a long illness or chronic condition, will burn more calories doing 'everyday' stuff than someone who is fit and healthy.

That fact aside, Fitbit pedometers, when worn all day with no other logging, WILL start to accumulate 'exercise calories' for housework, walking to the shop, pacing around the kitchen, climbing the stairs to use the bathroom etc. Fitbit does the counting and MFP adds the calories based on Fitbit's stats. This surely means that MFP EXPECT people to log anything more active than 'sedentary'. (Of course, if your activity is set to anything more than 'sedentary' then this ceases to be the case.)

Disclaimer: I have ME/CFS, and before I got a fitbit I manually logged EVERYTHING because EVERYTHING raised my heart rate; I have since improved my fitness levels and this is no longer the case. I do not log 'day to day' housework, I do not log 'walking', I do not log 'cooking'. However I still get 'bad' days during which I'm inactive due to pain/fatigue so my activity level is still set to 'sedentary', and I have a Fitbit which logs my activity for me so that MFP can add those calories to my daily goal. If that's the way that MFP is supposed to work, who am I to argue?

chrisa8170

Everyone's weight loss journey is different in terms of their start and end points, how active they are, do they fully understand eating back / not eating back etc.

I thought the whole point of MFP was to log and have a supportive environment, share our experiences. We have the freedom to select who to friend, so if you don't like what people are doing, unfriend them, simples

I can appreciate your point of view, have listened to your point of view, but life is too short to worry about those little things, if it works for the individual then all is good.

Just stick with your like minded friends and don't worry about what others do. I know I don't but I'm more than willing to provide the support to anyone who needs it, they don't have to listen.

:flowerforyou:

Tenar13

I used to log everything (ironing, cooking, walking etc) to determine my level of activity as I have a desk based job but too small kids. Over a period of time I established that effectively I was lightly active before I added any "real" exersize so I ended up with too much of a deficit if I did not log these when set on sedentary. I am close to goal and so have very little wriggle room but it can be helpful to do this if you do not have access to a fit bit type gadget. I also lost the best part of 14lbs doing this - though now I am using In Place of a Roadmap and an average daily calorie value rather than eating back.

FJMilner

I get what you're saying, and I sort of agree, but each to their own. It doesn't bother me what anyone else logs or doesn't log, I need to concentrate on my fitness/weight loss - if anyone else is cheating themselves it's not really my problem!

TheVimFuego

Honestly...why does it bother you what they do? Its not hurting you. It doesn't effect you at all. Just ignore it and do what works for you. I imagine, if I was someone who normally just sat all day and did nothing but watch telly all day, and suddenly started to move more, yeah I may log those things. I've logged my housework before....but I was doing a deep clean, scrubbing floors on hands and knees cleaning cabinets and walls...and I didn't get a chance to "workout" that day, so that was my exercise.

You're right, I should do the same for misuse of affect and effect but you know what? Something about it just pushes my hypersensitive getalife buttons

Signed,
Grumpy Pom In Oz