Fat Makes You Fat/Fatter
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This is really interesting, thanks for posting! :drinker:
(Especially interesting for me because I am *always* over on fat, which isn't a problem right now because I'm not eating a surplus, but it's good to know for the future)0 -
its kinda the same way that carbs make you fat
and protein makes you fat
and fruit make you fat
and anything in excess will make you fat0 -
its kinda the same way that carbs make you fat
and protein makes you fat
and fruit make you fat
and anything in excess will make you fat
Right, butExcess dietary fat leads to greater fat accumulation than does excess dietary carbohydrate,
So yes, a surplus will cause weight gain regardless, but fat results in gaining more fat than carbs.0 -
and the difference was greatest early in the overfeeding period.
Yeah, what would happen, if they had the ability to better adapt to this "new" macro?
How long had this study been going?0 -
its kinda the same way that carbs make you fat
and protein makes you fat
and fruit make you fat
and anything in excess will make you fat
Right, butExcess dietary fat leads to greater fat accumulation than does excess dietary carbohydrate,
So yes, a surplus will cause weight gain regardless, but fat results in gaining more fat than carbs.0 -
and the difference was greatest early in the overfeeding period.
Yeah, what would happen, if they had the ability to better adapt to this "new" macro?
How long had this study been going?
Then they would adapt better. What is your question?
6 weeks.0 -
interesting and @Mokey41 I would say excess anything in macros is going to have a negative effect on the person.
I don't necessarily agree, people have their macros set in varying ways and get the same/similar results so I think there is room for a little extra without negative effects. People who have "excess" protein seem to thrive here :flowerforyou:0 -
and the difference was greatest early in the overfeeding period.
Yeah, what would happen, if they had the ability to better adapt to this "new" macro?
How long had this study been going?
Then they would adapt better. What is your question?
6 weeks.
I guess, longer study time would show different results.
Especially when they would use different fat sources. lard sucks :-)0 -
and the difference was greatest early in the overfeeding period.
Yeah, what would happen, if they had the ability to better adapt to this "new" macro?
How long had this study been going?
Then they would adapt better. What is your question?
6 weeks.
I guess, longer study time would show different results.
Especially when they would use different fat sources. lard sucks :-)
Why? What do you base your conjecture on? Look at the graph. At 6 weeks you have a differentiated starting point - a leaner rat but higher BF% on the keto - what makes you think things are going to go differently from that point?
Not challenging, I'm interested in your development of the idea.0 -
Thanks for the data. Honestly, it's really useful for me right now, so big extra thank yous!
Obviously, I'm not in sync with the test subject because even though I am "bulking", I do not eat a significant amount over maintenance. If there is an impact in gaining less fat while adding mass then right now is exactly the time for me to test it on myself. I have been reading a lot on nutrition and thinking that my fats were more important than carbs. I've been eating around 50+ grams of fat most days, which is .4 or my total body mass (yes, I'm small). Probably should cut it back a few grams and see if I get better results. I will note that my bf% has gone down since I started eating this way, but it coincided with a change to the 5/3/1 lifting program and upping overall calories, particularly protein, so we will see.0 -
Healthy fats are necessary for your body to work properly.0
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Bump to read later ..0
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Fat suits make you fat.0
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bump to review latter..0
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Thnak you, will read and post later -- at a glance, yes there is some contradiction.0 -
I can't access the full study. What type of fat were they feeding the rats. If it is the one I am thinking of they were using an unnatural food source. This could get into a pretty long thread filled with all kinds of study links debating either side of the argument though.
I would also like to know this.0 -
Can we get a retard's version of this? I'm didn't understand any of the graphics. :ohwell:0
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@Wendy
What's your specific question? In my opinion, a high fat diet is an useful tool to shred weight when beeing overweight.
For heavy lifting, especially bodybuilding, the power of the right carbs should be used.
Why would a high fat diet be any more effective than any other diet holding cals and protein constant?0
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