breakfast still the most unhealthiest meal part two....

FitandFab33

The body uses exogenous glucose (the carbs you eat) for energy when it's available (in the first few hours post-prandial), then glycogen stores (these are the carbs you ate before/glucose your body made before and stored), and THEN the body will begin gluconeogenesis from fatty acids in combination with using glycogen stores... so it's not until a glucose is NOT readily available that your body begins fat catabolism to source energy.

But then there's the whole fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates thing:

Lipolysis (the degradation of lipids (fats)) occurs with the input of intermediaries that are products of GLUCOSE catabolism- that is, in order for fats to burn, they need some of the compounds that breaking down glucose produces. BUT then again, the intermediaries of fat metabolism can be sourced from alternative sources (alanine--> pyruvate --> OOA) if there is excess Acetyl Co-A present (which is often the case when exogenous glucose is reduced/unavailable) so it's not NECESSARILY true that blood glucose is absolutely necessary for fat metabolism.

Anybody follow that? Nope? Yeah.. it doesn't have that much to do with this but I'm studying and typing it out benefits me. hah

woman talking metabolic science is so freaking sexy!

haha.. Well let me take you through the physiological differences between ketogenic and glucogenic amino acids then... j/k, I'm bored with myself just mentioning it.

etoiles_argentees

The body uses exogenous glucose (the carbs you eat) for energy when it's available (in the first few hours post-prandial), then glycogen stores (these are the carbs you ate before/glucose your body made before and stored), and THEN the body will begin gluconeogenesis from fatty acids in combination with using glycogen stores... so it's not until a glucose is NOT readily available that your body begins fat catabolism to source energy.

But then there's the whole fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates thing:

Lipolysis (the degradation of lipids (fats)) occurs with the input of intermediaries that are products of GLUCOSE catabolism- that is, in order for fats to burn, they need some of the compounds that breaking down glucose produces. BUT then again, the intermediaries of fat metabolism can be sourced from alternative sources (alanine--> pyruvate --> OOA) if there is excess Acetyl Co-A present (which is often the case when exogenous glucose is reduced/unavailable) so it's not NECESSARILY true that blood glucose is absolutely necessary for fat metabolism.

Anybody follow that? Nope? Yeah.. it doesn't have that much to do with this but I'm studying and typing it out benefits me. hah

woman talking metabolic science is so freaking sexy!

haha.. Well let me take you through the physiological differences between ketogenic and glucogenic amino acids then... j/k, I'm bored with myself just mentioning it.

yes, I follow, understand. Too many people following Martin/Leangains. Silly.

myofibril

Yeah, no.

http://www.alanaragon.com/an-objective-look-at-intermittent-fasting.html

etoiles_argentees

Yes. Dave Tate? no. I'd prefer to listen to Alan. I trust him.

ndj1979

The body uses exogenous glucose (the carbs you eat) for energy when it's available (in the first few hours post-prandial), then glycogen stores (these are the carbs you ate before/glucose your body made before and stored), and THEN the body will begin gluconeogenesis from fatty acids in combination with using glycogen stores... so it's not until a glucose is NOT readily available that your body begins fat catabolism to source energy.

But then there's the whole fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates thing:

Lipolysis (the degradation of lipids (fats)) occurs with the input of intermediaries that are products of GLUCOSE catabolism- that is, in order for fats to burn, they need some of the compounds that breaking down glucose produces. BUT then again, the intermediaries of fat metabolism can be sourced from alternative sources (alanine--> pyruvate --> OOA) if there is excess Acetyl Co-A present (which is often the case when exogenous glucose is reduced/unavailable) so it's not NECESSARILY true that blood glucose is absolutely necessary for fat metabolism.

Anybody follow that? Nope? Yeah.. it doesn't have that much to do with this but I'm studying and typing it out benefits me. hah

woman talking metabolic science is so freaking sexy!

haha.. Well let me take you through the physiological differences between ketogenic and glucogenic amino acids then... j/k, I'm bored with myself just mentioning it.

mmmm amino acids make my blood boil....

Eandretta96

Meal timing is irrelevant. People make it so much harder than it has to be. Just get in your proteins, fat, and carbs by the end of the day.

ndj1979

well lean gains works for me ..so I do not think it is silly...

Eandretta96

Of course it works. If you are counting your calories, you will lose or gain weight regardless. I was doing it too because it makes it much easier to diet.

etoiles_argentees

Meal timing is irrelevant. People make it so much harder than it has to be. Just get in your proteins, fat, and carbs by the end of the day.

Thank you.

ndj1979

Of course it works. If you are counting your calories, you will lose or gain weight regardless. I was doing it too because it makes it much easier to diet.

do you still do it?

I have been doing it for six months now..

I could always eat a lot in one sitting so it works well for me...

Eandretta96

No, not anymore because I find it hard to get in more than 2000 calories while on it. It all depends on how much food you can eat.

ndj1979

No, not anymore because I find it hard to get in more than 2000 calories while on it. It all depends on how much food you can eat.

yea I am trying to get to 10% body fat...but then I want to add some muscle to that ..so I will probably have a hard time eating 2800 cals a day on IF/lean gains..

did you just use it to cut?

Eandretta96

I used it to cut.