Tiger woods

lilchino4af

Here is the problem. Our society has developed an attitude of sexual permissiveness. Additionally, our society has developed an attitude of acceptance for divorce. (And I am speaking as one who is on his second marriage)

When it is snickered at for a person to wait until the sanctity of marriage to enter into sexual relationships, the intrinsic value of sex is depreciated. When sex is referred to as "talking to" a person and a commitment is referred to as "dating," the value of sex is depreciated. When sex is treated as a casual form of entertainment, the value of sex is depreciated. The end result, you get people saying things like "It was just sex, it didn't mean anything." The problem is, sex always means something!

Add this to the concept of marriage being just a thing of convenience, and there is no society pressure for people to make it work, or for that matter to behave in ethical ways.

The whole philosophical movement of the post-modern world is based on deconstructing what was previously held to be true and important. So, when we deconstruct morals, we get a "what feels good to you" mentality. So, it felt good to Tiger Woods and Jesse James and all the other dogs in the world. They had no moral compunction to behave in an ethical manner, because the post-modern view of ethics is that there is no such thing as unethical or immoral.

Totally agree!!

@hollyroode - thanks for your perspective on his apology; I didn't watch so couldn't really say one way or the other if I thought he was genuine. I also like the rest of what you posted; gotta love how the media puts words into people's mouths to make the news and gossip more sensational.

ssheldon318

Yes he is a role model for many young men, and he definitely acted poorly and used bad judgement and I absolutely don't condone his behavior, but the issue here is with the media! They need to drop it let Tiger and Elin work it out or don't rather than continuing to bring it up. We the public, don't "deserve" to know anything about their situation and they don't "owe us" any explanation, I don't care how famous they are!

TheMotherAwesome

Yes he is a role model for many young men, and he definitely acted poorly and used bad judgement and I absolutely don't condone his behavior, but the issue here is with the media! They need to drop it let Tiger and Elin work it out or don't rather than continuing to bring it up. We the public, don't "deserve" to know anything about their situation and they don't "owe us" any explanation, I don't care how famous they are!

Thank you.

leavinglasvegas

Yes he is a role model for many young men, and he definitely acted poorly and used bad judgement and I absolutely don't condone his behavior, but the issue here is with the media! They need to drop it let Tiger and Elin work it out or don't rather than continuing to bring it up. We the public, don't "deserve" to know anything about their situation and they don't "owe us" any explanation, I don't care how famous they are!

I agree!

meganwojo

All in all, throughout the gossip and media...Tiger Woods and Jesse James are not men. They are pathetic. To sit there woman after woman and use their bodies...which is exactly what they were doing...they weren't in love, they had nothing in their mind about these woman but as objects to satisfy their fantasies. AND every single woman KNOWS they were married men. These woman are homewreckers and LOVE it. Furthermore, why are these gorgeous smart woman STAYING with these "sex addicted people"... because they get "help"? I'm sorry ,but if I found out my husband's thing was in 14 different vagina's...I would never let him touch me again. These mistresses are porn stars and strippers for crying out loud...I'm sure they are all clean and I'm sure the cheating scums used protection 100% every time. YA RIGHT. Now Tiki Barber left his 8 MONTH PREGNANT wife for their 23 yr old Nanny. COME ON NOW! They have sites like Ashley Madison promoting people to have affairs. I am so tired of people thinking they can get away with cheating and if it doesn't work out they will just get divorced, oh well. It's so sad that Elin and Sandra ADORED their men, and they have been betrayed to the fullest. Tiger and Jesse could go to therapy the rest of their lives and still it won't take pain their wives will have for the rest of their long life. I love the cop out of sex addiction. Don't you think after, i dont know, the 6th woman, they would think...oh this is bad & i need help? Nope...they knew every aspect of what they were doing. Shame on this society. They made their bed, now lay in it. Or maybe they won't lay in it until another slutty bimbo is next to them...hmmmm.

whyflysouth

There's a good deal of anger and righteous indignation in this post. I would like to suggest one thing though, if so many of us here at this website are here because of food addiction, then I see no reason not to think that there are people who suffer from sex addiction, so I don't think it's right to brush that off as "there's no sex addiction, just a-holes".

The year I got married, I cancelled cable and stopped watching television, it's been 9 years now and if I happen across some of utter garbage that's mainstream now I can't believe it. Here's a challenge, give up tv for a year and see how trashy things get. Men and women are being raised on sex and direct fulfillment of all immediate desires, and it's no surprise that Tiger would fall victim to such conditioning, b/c for a guy like Tiger he can get whatever he wants and it's probably flaunted in front of him so often that it makes attempts at monogamy a living hell. From one side men are supposed to be perfectly loyal spouses to their wives and on the other side they should be buying into the semi-naked girls in bikinis selling you beer and cars on television. Either divorce your wife or divorce the media and the ideals of society.

TheMotherAwesome

There's a good deal of anger and righteous indignation in this post. I would like to suggest one thing though, if so many of us here at this website are here because of food addiction, then I see no reason not to think that there are people who suffer from sex addiction, so I don't think it's right to brush that off as "there's no sex addiction, just a-holes".

YAY YOU! This bit counts as pure win in my book.

mromnek

I have a fundamental problem when the word "addiction" is placed behind any behavior in order to normalize it and marginalize the personal responsibility a person holds for their behavior. I have a compulsive component to my personality, so I completely understand the physical and psychological hold pleasure yielding behaviors exhert.

Take an addiction that seems to represent addictions everywhere: alcoholism. And take the pre-eminent organization that deals with this addiction: AA. The first thing that everyone seems to know about AA is the way members introduce themselves: Hello my name is _____ and I am an alcoholic. That simple phrase takes responsibility for their addiction.

When people stop playing victim, and making excuses, our society will get better.

havingitall

I honestly do think he is truly sincere in his apology and is seeking help to recover from his addiction. I don't think its right to be disgusted at someone for their past?
Not logical. Get a heart. Accept his sincerity and move on. Its public, its humiliating, its over and all he can do is look to the future and hope/pray he doesnt make the same mistakes again.

I think he is sorry he got caught.....not that he did it. I think that anybody that cheats on a spouse is scummy and has no morals whatsoever. Can you tell that my ex was a cheater too?

Vallandingham

Sex Addict?

You're only considered a Sex Addict if you are a celebrity. When Tiger or Jesse or Charlie Sheen get caught, they go to Sex Rehab. When the guy down the block or some other non-celebrity gets caught, they are just *kitten* and go to conselling or divorce court.

TheMotherAwesome

Sex Addict?

You're only considered a Sex Addict if you are a celebrity. When Tiger or Jesse or Charlie Sheen get caught, they go to Sex Rehab. When the guy down the block or some other non-celebrity gets caught, they are just *kitten* and go to conselling or divorce court.

Sorry, but that's not true. There are sex addict meetings held all over the country as regularly as AA or NA meetings. Real people have the same problems, and real people take the same steps to recover from it. You just don't know about it because they are anonymous, as the name would indicate.

leavinglasvegas

My church houses meetings every week for Narcotics, Nicotine, Alcohol, Overeaters, Sex, Incest, Cleptomania, several phobias, and a page long list of others. They are all packed to the max every week.

While I don't agree with the theory of addiction or the treatment, it is a real thing. It can be measured in the brain.

Vallandingham

Sex Addict?

You're only considered a Sex Addict if you are a celebrity. When Tiger or Jesse or Charlie Sheen get caught, they go to Sex Rehab. When the guy down the block or some other non-celebrity gets caught, they are just *kitten* and go to conselling or divorce court.

Sorry, but that's not true. There are sex addict meetings held all over the country as regularly as AA or NA meetings. Real people have the same problems, and real people take the same steps to recover from it. You just don't know about it because they are anonymous, as the name would indicate.

I am not talking about the condition. I am talking about the label.

mommared53

I have a fundamental problem when the word "addiction" is placed behind any behavior in order to normalize it and marginalize the personal responsibility a person holds for their behavior. I have a compulsive component to my personality, so I completely understand the physical and psychological hold pleasure yielding behaviors exhert.

Take an addiction that seems to represent addictions everywhere: alcoholism. And take the pre-eminent organization that deals with this addiction: AA. The first thing that everyone seems to know about AA is the way members introduce themselves: Hello my name is _____ and I am an alcoholic. That simple phrase takes responsibility for their addiction.

When people stop playing victim, and making excuses, our society will get better.

I agree.