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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Okay, I'll sign this petition.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    No no you guys, that's the next thread.

    I get all of my eggs from my family farm where the chickens can scavenge and peck. I consider these the most "elite" chicken eggs available. Makes my breakfasts "elite".

    Oh, sorry. Where is this egg thread?

    Are your chickens paleo, or do they eat grain? Because if they eat grain, then that automatically makes you non-paleo (meaning, you fail at nutrition). So you might as well just drink tar if you're willing to eat eggs like that.


    In addition to the bugs and grasses, they have access to...a grain supplement.

    Dagnabbit.

    *sigh*

    Does anyone know of a high quality meal replacement powder I can have for breakfast instead since my eggs are nothing more than little gelatinous containers of poison?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    No no you guys, that's the next thread.

    I get all of my eggs from my family farm where the chickens can scavenge and peck. I consider these the most "elite" chicken eggs available. Makes my breakfasts "elite".

    Oh, sorry. Where is this egg thread?

    Are your chickens paleo, or do they eat grain? Because if they eat grain, then that automatically makes you non-paleo (meaning, you fail at nutrition). So you might as well just drink tar if you're willing to eat eggs like that.


    In addition to the bugs and grasses, they have access to...a grain supplement.

    Dagnabbit.

    *sigh*

    Does anyone know of a high quality meal replacement powder I can have for breakfast instead since my eggs are nothing more than little gelatinous containers of poison?

    Not offhand, but I know someone in this very thread who many be able to help you!!
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    No no you guys, that's the next thread.

    I get all of my eggs from my family farm where the chickens can scavenge and peck. I consider these the most "elite" chicken eggs available. Makes my breakfasts "elite".

    Oh, sorry. Where is this egg thread?
    Excellent. That describes our chickens. I always knew I was 31337, now give me w4r3z.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.
    Meat is only real if you rip it from the carcass with your own teeth.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.
    Meat is only real if you rip it from the carcass with your own teeth.

    weird because right now i'm eating uncured bacon that has no nitrates, and the only ingredients are pork belly, salt, sugar, and spices.

    compare that to the "ham" above
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.
    Meat is only real if you rip it from the carcass with your own teeth.

    weird because right now i'm eating uncured bacon that has no nitrates, and the only ingredients are pork belly, salt, sugar, and spices.

    compare that to the "ham" above

    That's awesome. Maybe if I stopped eating cured ham I could be rad like you.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.

    glad you're catching on.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.

    glad you're catching on.

    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.
    Meat is only real if you rip it from the carcass with your own teeth.

    weird because right now i'm eating uncured bacon that has no nitrates, and the only ingredients are pork belly, salt, sugar, and spices.

    compare that to the "ham" above

    That's awesome. Maybe if I stopped eating cured ham I could be rad like you.
    probably
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.
    Of course. People only started eating those foods in the last couple of decades when the obesity rates and sickness rates started to skyrocket.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.

    glad you're catching on.

    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.

    find the powder in my diary. it's open.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.
    Of course. People only started eating those foods in the last couple of decades when the obesity rates and sickness rates started to skyrocket.

    enriched white flour? yep

    corn-fed chicken? yep

    skim milk? yep

    heavily processed pork with nitrates? yep.

    all in the last 50 years. :)
  • NewCaddy
    NewCaddy Posts: 845 Member
    You've only eaten there once in 5 years??? Go for it -- eat whatever you want. Don't make it a habit and you'll be fine!
  • CharityGC
    CharityGC Posts: 499 Member
    I ate from McDonalds last night. It was fabulous.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.
    The overpriced jugs of powder he sells are not processed. It's natural powder harvested directly from trees.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.

    glad you're catching on.

    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.

    find the powder in my diary. it's open.

    You started logging December 31, and there it is. And it's there every day until January 10 when you stopped logging. Oh and there it is again on January 11.. and 12... and 14.... 15, 16, 17.... 24....

    I stopped looking there.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.
    The overpriced jugs of powder he sells are not processed. It's natural powder harvested directly from trees.

    lol haven't sold it for months. my views are evolving on that front.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I am thinking about it lately. The funny thing is, in the last five years I've only been there once, and that was in Japan. And that was before I gave a flying rats behind about calories. I just did not like it, did not like that fast food smell and could not bring myself to eat it.

    Now, after a month of clean living, I want it.
    I mean a cosi salad is 600 calories and I can get a crispy fried chicken for that.
    Egg McMuffin is only 300? My breakfast of yogurt, nuts and fruit is over that (really, take a look).
    Small fries are only 230??? That's crazy.

    I'd certainly feel a lot more full eating there. But is it crazy?

    An Egg McMuffin is a single fresh egg, an English muffin, a piece of ham, and a slice of cheese. What on earth could be wrong with that?

    Because it is not an egg, ham or cheese. It is imitation weird chemical concoctions that make people unhealthy.

    No. They literally crack the egg when you order. The ham is whole sliced ham. The English muffin is just an English muffin. The cheese is basically Kraft singles.

    hahahaha you really believe this?

    also kraft singles =/= cheese

    Which part do you not believe?

    BTW, the ingredients before the "2% or less" part consists of Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate. Sounds like cheese to me.

    For the muffin, before the 2% or less: Enriched Flour, Water, Yeast, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil. Pretty much identical to Thomas English Muffins, except they use regular sugar for the 1 gram of sugar in the muffin.

    For the ham: Pork, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Sodium Diacetate And Sodium Nitrite. This is a slice of whole meat. It's not processed.

    The egg is literally just an egg. McDonald's cracks fresh eggs for the English muffins.

    So what part do you not believe?

    so... here's the thing. if that pork were unprocessed it wouldn't have sugar, sodium lactate, sodium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium diacetate and sodium nitrate. those things are present in the meat when the pig's butchered?

    you might wanna do some research on processed vs unprocessed.

    It's cured ham. It's whole meat that's brined in a salt and sugar solution with nitrates, then cooked, then sliced whole and served. That's what ham is. Those are all standard ingredients for cured ham. Salts, sugar, and nitrates.

    I don't consider curing meat with salt and sugar to be "processing." If you do, that's a pretty strict definition. Even if you do consider it processed, it's still whole meat and it's not "some weird chemical concoction" or whatever that girl said. It's just whole cured ham.

    So let's recap: an Egg McMuffin consists of one whole egg, a standard English muffin identical to the ones you get at the grocery, a slice of whole cured ham, and a slice of cheese.

    those muffins - heavily processed
    the pork - heavily processed (look up nitrates, they're great for you)
    the cheese - heavily processed.

    Even if the egg IS real, that's 1 out of 4

    No **** the muffins and cheese are processed. No one said they weren't. So what? Oh no, bread is processed! Herp derp. All bread and cheese is processed.

    The point is the McMuffin consists of a completely typical English muffin, a completely typical slice of cured ham, a completely typical whole egg, and a completely typical slice of cheese. None of it is some weird chemical concoction like the girl said. End of story.

    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Bread, eggs, milk, and pork are the reason we're sick and obese. Got it. Thanks.

    glad you're catching on.

    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.

    find the powder in my diary. it's open.

    You started logging December 31, and there it is. And it's there every day until January 10 when you stopped logging. Oh and there it is again on January 11.. and 12... and 14.... 15, 16, 17.... 24....

    I stopped looking there.

    ah. didn't expect you to go that far back. I kind of just meant recently. (i actually started logging about a year ago and stopped for a while, but that's not important)

    whatevs man. I don't drink shakeology right now. i'm planning on adding a shake back into my routine but it'll be hemp or pea protein probably. nothing wrong with that.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    find the powder in my diary. it's open.
    You started logging December 31, and there it is. And it's there every day until January 10 when you stopped logging. Oh and there it is again on January 11.. and 12... and 14.... 15, 16, 17.... 24....

    I stopped looking there.
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  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    ah. didn't expect you to go that far back. I kind of just meant recently. Since I haven't drunk it since the new year (i actually started logging about a year ago and stopped for a while, but that's not important)

    :laugh:

    Nice.

    Not since the new year? You've had it almost every day in January. 25th, 27th, then you didn't log a lot of days in February it seems.

    I dunno man. Like 25 times since late December isn't really "far back" and January 27 is fairly recent. You asked.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    ah. didn't expect you to go that far back. I kind of just meant recently. Since I haven't drunk it since the new year (i actually started logging about a year ago and stopped for a while, but that's not important)

    :laugh:

    Nice.

    Not since the new year? You've had it almost every day in January. 25th, 27th, then you didn't log a lot of days in February it seems.

    I dunno man. Like 25 times since late December isn't really "far back" and January 27 is fairly recent. You asked.

    lol fair enough. i honestly just meant today and didn't think you'd waste the effort to look so far back. Yeah, I had extra shakeology lying around and figured I should drink it. In any case, we can talk about Shakeology's processing if you want. Since it still doesn't contain any of the crazy additives that all your lovely mcmuffin ingredients do. there's absolutely no comparison.

    (also I ammended my post.)
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Little statements like this are why the very mention of your username invokes people to laugh. You want to be a coach, be healthy, be elite, etc. That's really great. You can pull it off. But nonsense like this is where you lose any shred of credibility you've built up.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Little statements like this are why the very mention of your username invokes people to laugh. You want to be a coach, be healthy, be elite, etc. That's really great. You can pull it off. But nonsense like this is where you lose any shred of credibility you've built up.

    only to people like you who want to continue eating crap.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Why eat bread, eggs, milk, or pork when you can just buy a jug of powder? I mean srsly.
    The overpriced jugs of powder he sells are not processed. It's natural powder harvested directly from trees.

    lol haven't sold it for months. my views are evolving on that front.

    I hope your views continue to evolve. Some of the nonsense you say reminds me of myself when I was first starting out with "fitness" and was arguably orthoexic. Reading your posts I can imagine how insufferably annoying I must have been to my friends and family. At least here on the internet we're all strangers. Nobody liked you in the first place.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    and those typical ingredients consumed as a part of the typical american diet make us a nation of people who are typically sick and obese.

    Little statements like this are why the very mention of your username invokes people to laugh. You want to be a coach, be healthy, be elite, etc. That's really great. You can pull it off. But nonsense like this is where you lose any shred of credibility you've built up.

    only to people like you who want to continue eating crap.

    I eat crap and I'm in excellent health. I must be a special snowflake then.

    What is the date of your blood test? Are you stepping up to this? I will be calling you out when my results are in. When the results show that I'm healthy will you STFU with your orthoexic crusade?