How much sugar grams is to much

StaticEntropy · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

DrAliSharif · March 2013

Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

Good points both.

With love,
Burt

He actually didn't say that.

Magerum - how much sugar DO you feel is too much?

That's a completely different answer based on the individual and their goals. Whatever doesn't fit into your individual macro plan is a generic answer. I keep mine around 200g when eating 4000 daily. 135ish when eating 3500. Which is about 20% of my intake.

From the American Heart Association:

A prudent upper limit of intake is half of the discretionary calorie allowance, which for most American women is no more than 100 calories per day and for most American men is no more than 150 calories per day from added sugars.

That means no more than 37g of added sugars for men, and 25g for women.

You can trust the AHA or you can go with magerum and his 200g/day

Based on your own argument... MY discretionary intake is about 2000 calories a day, based on exercise level and 4000 calorie daily intake to maintain. Which would be 1000 calories of sugar intake, which is 250 g. Which in turn is more than I consume at 200 g.

Thank you for making my point.

Can you show us studies not performed by one single man at one department back in 1991. Please show me replications of these data from this decade?

magerum · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Not sure about the derailing, but I did provide quite a few sources and justification for my numbers based on his own arguments.

magerum · March 2013

If you were directing that at me, here you go. Oldest is from 2008. Newest is from this year, which we're only 13 months into.

Can you show us studies not performed by one single man at one department back in 1991. Please show me replications of these data from this decade?

_Lori_Lynn_ · March 2013

Your sugar intake should be based on your weight and gender.

I am to have 6g or less a day of refined sugar.
and 100g or less of natural sugar.

Sugar addiction is as powerful and as dangerous a cocaine addiction.

links_slayer · March 2013

can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?

here we go with the tin foil hat again.....

_Lori_Lynn_ · March 2013

Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

Good points both.

With love,
Burt

He actually didn't say that.

Great point Reddy. Perhaps I should clarify that NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU NEED TO STOP DERAILING THREADS WITH YOUR PETTY AND JUVENILE ARGUMENTS. THE OP DOESN'T DESERVE IT AND YOU ARE NOT BEING HELPFUL. I hope this clarifies my earlier point.
With love,
Burt

I care what Reddy has to say. Reddy is one of about four people on here who actually understand the body. And he is nice enough to share it. And he never trolls like some do (ehem). I look at what some of you guys say and it makes me mad you try to mislead people on purpose. Not only that but your confusion over how things work in the body shock me. And you give people a hard time who are trying to help others and who actually provide research and documentation. Reddy is a great asset to any thread.

magerum · March 2013

Your sugar intake should be based on your weight and gender.

I am to have 6g or less a day of refined sugar.
and 100g or less of natural sugar.

Sugar addiction is as powerful and as dangerous a cocaine addiction.

Ridiculous. Way to edit out your nonsense sources. :drinker:

BurtHuttz · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Answering an OP's question is great. This however, is a pissing match, which is what things turn into every time he participates in a thread.

Edited to expound: His first contribution to this thread was "can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?" Is it clearer now precisely when and how this turned into a pissing match, rather than a thread about sugar?

CoachReddy · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Answering an OP's question is great. This however, is a pissing match, which is what things turn into every time he participates in a thread.

Edited to expound: His first contribution to this thread was "can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?" Is it clearer now precisely when and how this turned into a pissing match, rather than a thread about sugar?

it becomes more of a pissing match each time you keep it going.

I was simply asking a question that didn't get answered

BurtHuttz · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Answering an OP's question is great. This however, is a pissing match, which is what things turn into every time he participates in a thread.

Edited to expound: His first contribution to this thread was "can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?" Is it clearer now precisely when and how this turned into a pissing match, rather than a thread about sugar?

it becomes more of a pissing match each time you keep it going.

I was simply asking a question that didn't get answered

I know you are but what am I

Let's keep playing the cutesy derail game

Who cares about the OP's question

Not as important as being right in a meaningless internet argument

baja572 · March 2013

Your right...no more frosted flakes...they were on sale and i just couldnt resist..but today is a new day....now you said you limit yourself to 30, so the blueberries and rasberries dont have that much sugar?? they taste some much more sweeter??

since it is your weakness you might want to buy a single serving once in a while! just a suggestion.

SideSteel · March 2013

If you have your initial calorie and macronutrients set up in a reasonable fashion, and you adhere to approximately a 20% discretionary calorie bank, then these parameters should automatically pigeon-hole your sugar intake into a reasonable target for the majority.

magerum · March 2013

If you have your initial calorie and macronutrients set up in a reasonable fashion, and you adhere to approximately a 20% discretionary calorie bank, then these parameters should automatically pigeon-hole your sugar intake into a reasonable target for the majority.

Thank you. Granted I am at about 25% right now. I am nearing the end of a 12 month cycle and have "let loose" a bit with the extra 5%.

CoachReddy · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Answering an OP's question is great. This however, is a pissing match, which is what things turn into every time he participates in a thread.

Edited to expound: His first contribution to this thread was "can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?" Is it clearer now precisely when and how this turned into a pissing match, rather than a thread about sugar?

it becomes more of a pissing match each time you keep it going.

I was simply asking a question that didn't get answered

I know you are but what am I
Let's keep playing the cutesy derail game
Who cares about the OP's question
Not as important as being right in a meaningless internet argument

you have YET to mention YOUR opinion on the OP's question, ironically enough.

magerum · March 2013

Reddy provides the OP with an actual number, not from anecdotal experience but from the AHA, and he gets blamed for derailing the thread?

Answering an OP's question is great. This however, is a pissing match, which is what things turn into every time he participates in a thread.

Edited to expound: His first contribution to this thread was "can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?" Is it clearer now precisely when and how this turned into a pissing match, rather than a thread about sugar?

it becomes more of a pissing match each time you keep it going.

I was simply asking a question that didn't get answered

I did answer it. I will again, that can easily be found within the studies themselves. If you want me to hold you hand, some were government funded (conspiracy!) and some privately.

BurtHuttz · March 2013

you have YET to mention YOUR opinion on the OP's question, ironically enough.

My answer is that it doesn't really matter. If you don't have diabetes and don't intend to eat a diet of predominately sugar, and don't intend to cut it out completely, it will neither help nor hinder your weight loss progress. If you'd like to debate this we can do so in a PM and then post the results here.

magerum · March 2013

you have YET to mention YOUR opinion on the OP's question, ironically enough.

My answer is that it doesn't really matter. If you don't have diabetes and don't intend to eat a diet of predominately sugar, and don't intend to cut it out completely, it will neither help nor hinder your weight loss progress. If you'd like to debate this we can do so in a PM and then post the results here.

Careful, that was my initial answer and you saw what it turned into.

YoungDoc2B · March 2013

It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

Can you explain why you state that?

listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

We have a winner. \thread

Georgina47 · March 2013

I don't have a medical issue w/ sugar but my doctor and PT told me to limit my sugar intake b/c it sends my body in to big highs and lows that it triggers unhealthy eating habits.. So it I want to maintain healthy eating habits I have to limit even my fruit intake I don't really care for the berries but I've been eating them... Salt is the demon I need to stay away from and since I have hypertension I crave salt......

CoachReddy · March 2013

you have YET to mention YOUR opinion on the OP's question, ironically enough.

My answer is that it doesn't really matter. If you don't have diabetes and don't intend to eat a diet of predominately sugar, and don't intend to cut it out completely, it will neither help nor hinder your weight loss progress. If you'd like to debate this we can do so in a PM and then post the results here.

thanks for your input on the OPs question!

CoachReddy · March 2013

If you have your initial calorie and macronutrients set up in a reasonable fashion, and you adhere to approximately a 20% discretionary calorie bank, then these parameters should automatically pigeon-hole your sugar intake into a reasonable target for the majority.

hey man, question - do you think 250g sugar/day is too much or is it alright? to me that seems astronomical, no matter how big you are. I'm only asking because even though we disagree on a lot, you do have a better grasp of nutritional mathematics than I.

ryry_ · March 2013

Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

Good points both.

With love,
Burt

He actually didn't say that.

Great point Reddy. Perhaps I should clarify that NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU NEED TO STOP DERAILING THREADS WITH YOUR PETTY AND JUVENILE ARGUMENTS. THE OP DOESN'T DESERVE IT AND YOU ARE NOT BEING HELPFUL. I hope this clarifies my earlier point.
With love,
Burt

I care what Reddy has to say. Reddy is one of about four people on here who actually understand the body. And he is nice enough to share it. And he never trolls like some do (ehem). I look at what some of you guys say and it makes me mad you try to mislead people on purpose. Not only that but your confusion over how things work in the body shock me. And you give people a hard time who are trying to help others and who actually provide research and documentation. Reddy is a great asset to any thread.

Two thoughts.

1. Nice dress

2. You accussed people of misleading others without providing research while stating sugar is " as powerful and as dangerous as a cocaine addiction." Please tell me this was the classic literary technique known as hyperbole.

Silver_Star · March 2013

Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

Good points both.

With love,
Burt

let this be the AMEN of it all :sad:

glennstoudt · March 2013

Lest this not be a waste of cyberspace, for the OP, I use <35g SUGAR daily. Carbs use 150g net. Sugar is a part of that 150 number. The Net carb number is Total Carbs (which includes sugars) less fiber.
As some have mentioned in between rants, a little more here and a little less there is nothing to stress about. It's not a daily report card with gold stars and a trophy.

So, your number may be different, but it is out there. Lose the Frosted Flakes though. Eat the berries, yum.
Good luck.

_Lori_Lynn_ · March 2013

Your sugar intake should be based on your weight and gender.

I am to have 6g or less a day of refined sugar.
and 100g or less of natural sugar.

Sugar addiction is as powerful and as dangerous a cocaine addiction.

Ridiculous. Way to edit out your nonsense sources. :drinker:

magerum · March 2013

Your sugar intake should be based on your weight and gender.

I am to have 6g or less a day of refined sugar.
and 100g or less of natural sugar.

Sugar addiction is as powerful and as dangerous a cocaine addiction.

Ridiculous. Way to edit out your nonsense sources. :drinker:

I didn't edit out anything. This is what I read. This is what i choose to believe and I can say it without talking a fool and criticizing unlike yourself.

I'm sorry that you believe citing scientific studies is "talking a fool". You did edit out your "sources" I saw them before you did, plus it leave a little edit out tag when you do. Just like this post. I'm quoting.

cassiepv · March 2013

It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

Can you explain why you state that?

listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

^^ people on this site really love Pop Tarts

bettyann55 · March 2013

I agree. After all the classes I hav etaken the major stress factor for almost everyone attending was their sugar intake. One thing to remember and it is fact, sugar adds to belly fat and belly fat is dangerous. I try to limit myself to 30g of sugar per day no matter where it comes from...period.

bettyann55 · March 2013

Pop tarts are a waste of calories...just saying from my kitchen. Now a wholesome homemade granola bar...yummy.

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