Someone is wrong on the internet!!!
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Opinions can be wrong.
the point, dear... you've missed it
Sorry. missed the sarcasm in the OP0 -
It doesn't matter what it's about, who's involved, or what links you can come up with. It doesn't matter if you have a hundred people agreeing with you or nobody. It doesn't matter if someone is being courteous or offensive, and it doesn't matter what words they use.
No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right. There will always be exceptions, and what feels right for you may not for everyone else, BUT what feels just and morally right for a large group of people may not be that way for the smaller groups either! (Slavery, anyone? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time to a bunch of people!)
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
No one else is ever going to be in complete agreement with you! But, by the same logic, no one is ever in complete DISagreement with you either. It's easier to find common ground than you might want to believe, if you just try being civil.
Have a nice day, I won't be around to see this thread get locked or deleted so I'll just say thank you for whoever contributes to it.
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
Because, as we all know, everyone's allowed they're own opinion, however if that opinion differs from a threads OP (general, not specific) or a passionate poster (general, not specific) it is obviously meant as an attack.0 -
opinions are never wrong, nor are they right.
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... no one is ever 100% right...
you calling my mother a liar?0 -
... no one is ever 100% right...
Obviously we haven't met.
Ha a ha!! Well said!0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.0
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Rule #1- I am always right.
Rule #2- if I am ever wrong, please reference rule #1.0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.
Cool, can I catch a ride?0 -
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
well, first time was for fun
second time was because of my opinion
the other 6 times was because....
oh c'mon... I am taunto. People don't need reasons to report me...
It's true. Sometimes I wake up all tingly from dreaming about reporting taunto over and over.0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.
Right? Bottoms up...0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.
How is this different from any other day? :drinker:0 -
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
:drinker:
Boy and girls can we say Hypocrite ..... I knew you could0 -
I fail to see how this thread could get locked or deleted. The topic seem harmless enough. I get what you are trying to say and how diplomatically you are trying to say it and since I do not agree with you I will try to be equally diplomatic in my response. You were fine when you were talking about opinions. Your opinion is your own and you can't be wrong about it. There are a few parts where you went wrong.
1. No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right.<=== If two parties disagree about something it is not necessarily the case that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It is entirely possible that one person is completely wrong and another person is completely right. If person A claims that the Eiffel tower is made entirely out of spaghetti sauce and person B says it is made out of metal. Person A is completely wrong and Person B is completely right regardless of what anyone else would have to say about the matter. Simply because they disagree it does not mean that the Eiffel tower is suddenly made up of some sort of metal spaghetti sauce alloy. Binary situations do exist and they are quite common. Any time you are discussing anything fact based.
2. There will always be exceptions<=== This is one of those statements that actually can't be true. If it is true than that means there are not exceptions to this statement. I think what you are actually trying to say here is there are often exceptions.
3. Truth is relative, people.<=== This also can't be true. Truth by definition must be objective. To use a simple example if I flip a coin it will be heads or tails and it can't be neither and it can't be both at the same time and in the same sense. If truth is relative then we don't actually have a method for navigating our own world. We are dependent up somethings being true and other things being false and we have to use the tools we have to try and discern the difference.
I agree with the overall spirit of what you are trying to say however, there is simply no cause to set aside civility simply because you are on a chat forum. It may not be pleasant to be told when you are wrong but if you are open to the possibility then you have the potential to correct inaccurate beliefs and improve your overall picture of the world around you.0 -
It doesn't matter what it's about, who's involved, or what links you can come up with. It doesn't matter if you have a hundred people agreeing with you or nobody. It doesn't matter if someone is being courteous or offensive, and it doesn't matter what words they use.
No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right. There will always be exceptions, and what feels right for you may not for everyone else, BUT what feels just and morally right for a large group of people may not be that way for the smaller groups either! (Slavery, anyone? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time to a bunch of people!)
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
No one else is ever going to be in complete agreement with you! But, by the same logic, no one is ever in complete DISagreement with you either. It's easier to find common ground than you might want to believe, if you just try being civil.
Have a nice day, I won't be around to see this thread get locked or deleted so I'll just say thank you for whoever contributes to it.
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
Because, in my opinion, he was violating the community rules. The Mods will decide whether or not to agree with me, and decide whether to take further action or not. The opinions of the mods, and their discretion as to who is and is not following the rules set up for MFP, determine who gets strikes and bans. That does not make the mods, or anyone reporting, 100% wrong or 100% right. Thanks for the question, have a nice day!0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.
Right? Bottoms up...
pics or it didn't happen!
oh . . . wait . . . I thought you were talking about your *kitten*. nevermind.
:blushing: :blushing: :blushing:
It's so big & juicy
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Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
The part I bolded I wanted to address.
It's generally an argument I've heard from liars and people unwilling to admit they're wrong.
There aren't two sides to every story. Well there are.. there's the truth and someone else's bs spin on it. But there is truth. You can not like it, disagree with it, employ cognitive dissonance, you can do all sorts of fun mind games to shut it out.
But there is truth. Hiding from it does no good. In the end, it always wins.0 -
MFP is driving me to drink today.
How is this different from any other day? :drinker:
I search for any excuse these days.0 -
I fail to see how this thread could get locked or deleted. The topic seem harmless enough. I get what you are trying to say and how diplomatically you are trying to say it and since I do not agree with you I will try to be equally diplomatic in my response. You were fine when you were talking about opinions. Your opinion is your own and you can't be wrong about it. There are a few parts where you went wrong.
1. No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right.<=== If two parties disagree about something it is not necessarily the case that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It is entirely possible that one person is completely wrong and another person is completely right. If person A claims that the Eiffel tower is made entirely out of spaghetti sauce and person B says it is made out of metal. Person A is completely wrong and Person B is completely right regardless of what anyone else would have to say about the matter. Simply because they disagree it does not mean that the Eiffel tower is suddenly made up of some sort of metal spaghetti sauce alloy. Binary situations do exist and they are quite common. Any time you are discussing anything fact based.
2. There will always be exceptions<=== This is one of those statements that actually can't be true. If it is true than that means there are not exceptions to this statement. I think what you are actually trying to say here is there are often exceptions.
3. Truth is relative, people.<=== This also can't be true. Truth by definition must be objective. To use a simple example if I flip a coin it will be heads or tails and it can't be neither and it can't be both at the same time and in the same sense. If truth is relative then we don't actually have a method for navigating our own world. We are dependent up somethings being true and other things being false and we have to use the tools we have to try and discern the difference.
I agree with the overall spirit of what you are trying to say however, there is simply no cause to set aside civility simply because you are on a chat forum. It may not be pleasant to be told when you are wrong but if you are open to the possibility then you have the potential to correct inaccurate beliefs and improve your overall picture of the world around you.
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There is only one truth.
Bacon.0 -
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
The part I bolded I wanted to address.
It's generally an argument I've heard from liars and people unwilling to admit they're wrong.
There aren't two sides to every story. Well there are.. there's the truth and someone else's bs spin on it. But there is truth. You can not like it, disagree with it, employ cognitive dissonance, you can do all sorts of fun mind games to shut it out.
But there is truth. Hiding from it does no good. In the end, it always wins.
The notion that one "truth" is better than anyone else's "truth" is unfortunately, in and of itself, a fallacy. Ultimately a small portion of the population determines what is "truth", and other people simply choose to believe it because it is easier than disagreeing or trying to find their own beliefs independent of outside influences.
And before you dismiss me as a conspiracy-loving hack, remember, the only thing I'm actually trying to prove here is that nothing is 100% provable. You can feel free to disagree with me on that all you want though. 0 -
It doesn't matter what it's about, who's involved, or what links you can come up with. It doesn't matter if you have a hundred people agreeing with you or nobody. It doesn't matter if someone is being courteous or offensive, and it doesn't matter what words they use.
No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right. There will always be exceptions, and what feels right for you may not for everyone else, BUT what feels just and morally right for a large group of people may not be that way for the smaller groups either! (Slavery, anyone? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time to a bunch of people!)
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
No one else is ever going to be in complete agreement with you! But, by the same logic, no one is ever in complete DISagreement with you either. It's easier to find common ground than you might want to believe, if you just try being civil.
Have a nice day, I won't be around to see this thread get locked or deleted so I'll just say thank you for whoever contributes to it.
So... don't let "facts" get in the way of my beliefs?0 -
Because, in my opinion, he was violating the community rules. The Mods will decide whether or not to agree with me, and decide whether to take further action or not. The opinions of the mods, and their discretion as to who is and is not following the rules set up for MFP, determine who gets strikes and bans. That does not make the mods, or anyone reporting, 100% wrong or 100% right. Thanks for the question, have a nice day!
hi Ramberta0 -
Because, in my opinion, he was violating the community rules. The Mods will decide whether or not to agree with me, and decide whether to take further action or not. The opinions of the mods, and their discretion as to who is and is not following the rules set up for MFP, determine who gets strikes and bans. That does not make the mods, or anyone reporting, 100% wrong or 100% right. Thanks for the question, have a nice day!
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It doesn't matter what it's about, who's involved, or what links you can come up with. It doesn't matter if you have a hundred people agreeing with you or nobody. It doesn't matter if someone is being courteous or offensive, and it doesn't matter what words they use.
No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right. There will always be exceptions, and what feels right for you may not for everyone else, BUT what feels just and morally right for a large group of people may not be that way for the smaller groups either! (Slavery, anyone? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time to a bunch of people!)
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
No one else is ever going to be in complete agreement with you! But, by the same logic, no one is ever in complete DISagreement with you either. It's easier to find common ground than you might want to believe, if you just try being civil.
Have a nice day, I won't be around to see this thread get locked or deleted so I'll just say thank you for whoever contributes to it.
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
Because, in my opinion, he was violating the community rules. The Mods will decide whether or not to agree with me, and decide whether to take further action or not. The opinions of the mods, and their discretion as to who is and is not following the rules set up for MFP, determine who gets strikes and bans. That does not make the mods, or anyone reporting, 100% wrong or 100% right. Thanks for the question, have a nice day!
Wait, I thought you weren't going to be around to see who contributed?
I feel lied to.0 -
I have no dog in the fight. Which is usually how I keep a steady attitude in most discussion. Otherwise, I'd hunt you down in real life and make you eat my shorts. I used to be scary before the I-lobotomy.
True story.0 -
No.
you have a very large vocabulary.
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It doesn't matter what it's about, who's involved, or what links you can come up with. It doesn't matter if you have a hundred people agreeing with you or nobody. It doesn't matter if someone is being courteous or offensive, and it doesn't matter what words they use.
No one is ever 100% wrong, just like no one is ever 100% right. There will always be exceptions, and what feels right for you may not for everyone else, BUT what feels just and morally right for a large group of people may not be that way for the smaller groups either! (Slavery, anyone? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time to a bunch of people!)
Lastly, opinions are never wrong, nor are they right. They are opinions, nothing more. You can use all the "facts" you want, but at the end of the day, what you believe is specific to you and you alone. Truth is relative, people. Simply because your opinion is mostly in alignment with a majority, or minority, of the population does not make it wrong or right, it just means that more people agree (or disagree) with you.
No one else is ever going to be in complete agreement with you! But, by the same logic, no one is ever in complete DISagreement with you either. It's easier to find common ground than you might want to believe, if you just try being civil.
Have a nice day, I won't be around to see this thread get locked or deleted so I'll just say thank you for whoever contributes to it.
Um..ok. So if everyone is allowed to their own opinion..why did you report Taunto?
Because, in my opinion, he was violating the community rules. The Mods will decide whether or not to agree with me, and decide whether to take further action or not. The opinions of the mods, and their discretion as to who is and is not following the rules set up for MFP, determine who gets strikes and bans. That does not make the mods, or anyone reporting, 100% wrong or 100% right. Thanks for the question, have a nice day!
Wait, I thought you weren't going to be around to see who contributed?
I feel lied to.
Thats your opinion. The mods will have to decide if your opinions are good enough0 -
And before you dismiss me as a conspiracy-loving hack, remember, the only thing I'm actually trying to prove here is that nothing is 100% provable. You can feel free to disagree with me on that all you want though.
How can you prove something when nothing can be proven?0
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