random thought regarding obesity

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  • arcaneshadowcat
    arcaneshadowcat Posts: 41
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    No, that doesn't make you ignorant. Stress plays greatly into our weight as well. I know I eat less than several friends who are a bloody size 6, not to mention I exercise more often and am more fit... I just don't seem to lose weight. It likes me apparently. :flowerforyou:
  • BaconMD
    BaconMD Posts: 1,165 Member
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    I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.
    Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

    I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

    It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.
  • kelly_e_montana
    kelly_e_montana Posts: 1,999 Member
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    People get fat because they eat for reasons other than hunger, and they don't move enough. No one knows how to be a normal eater anymore. We are caught in cycles of restriction and overeating. Many people don't cook and they eat for a pleasurable experience most of the time, not just to fuel the body. I'm talking about most of the time, not just cravings. They use food and dieting for recreation and it becomes a vicious cycle.
  • 77tes
    77tes Posts: 7,997 Member
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    Lables in the US are better than some places. Per 100g isn't so great if they don't specify how many servings that is. You can't always carry a scale around.
  • svelt123
    svelt123 Posts: 173 Member
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    :wink: Have you ever seen a spoon made for a Barbie Doll?
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
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    I am sure they make them ;)
  • andyisandy
    andyisandy Posts: 433 Member
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    My 2 cents, as a nation we have got lazier. We eat more and move less.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    I want to see the spoon that goes with the thimble of jell-o. :laugh:
    Jell-o is properly eaten with a straw.

    In very basic terms, if one child grows up in a rural area, lacks the healthy nutrition at home, does not get involved in sports activities from childhood, and eats and watches TV all day long... that has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

    What does growing up in a rural area have to do with it?
  • kelly_e_montana
    kelly_e_montana Posts: 1,999 Member
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    Umm, yeah what does growing up in a rural area have to do with it?
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
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    It doesn't its just weird assumptions to make things seem like they have a meaning to why they happen.
  • JUDDDing
    JUDDDing Posts: 1,367 Member
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    This assumes that these people are keeping track of their calories in some way at all. They're not. I've spoken to dozens of people who have lost weight or tried to lose weight, and not a single one of them has kept track of calories but done so wildly incorrectly because they ignored serving size.

    Yeah, but some of them are still kind of funny. :)

    The other day I had a candy bar - one that comes in 3 sections. A serving was 1.5 sections. :laugh:
  • fluffykitsune
    fluffykitsune Posts: 236 Member
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    While my mum is not obese.. She can down a whole bag of popcorn.
    She is still convinced one bag is only 40cals (its 40cals per cup).. there is 4 - 6 cups per bag!

    She also gets those premade coffee drinks at the store which say 160cal-- per serving, which the whole bottle is 2.5 servings.
    urg.
  • BaconMD
    BaconMD Posts: 1,165 Member
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    Lables in the US are better than some places. Per 100g isn't so great if they don't specify how many servings that is. You can't always carry a scale around.
    Uh, the point I was trying to make was that "serving" is a stupid, undefinable term... It's not a one-size fits all, and the standard diet it's based on does not apply to me or most people in the first place. And why do you need a label to dictate to you what your serving is? "Hmm, this box of cereal tells me it's 520 calories per 100 grams, but it doesn't tell me how many grams I should eat for one serving!! HELP!!" What? No, you eat however much of it you want to fit into your allotment. I eat 800 calories for breakfast, so I'd eat like 140g of said cereal and 240mL of almond milk... I don't need an omnipotent label to tell me, "BaconMD, you must eat 55 grams of this cereal. That is your serving size!" because, no, it's not. It's not enough.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
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    When I was overweight it was due to self control.

    Not math.
  • Lisa_D1989
    Lisa_D1989 Posts: 9 Member
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    I once tried to find a healthier (lower calorie) version of dry pasta. I found a packet of durum wheat semolina pasta at the supermarket and compared the nutritional information on the back. I was amazed to see it contained half the amount of calories than the regular pasta. So I bought it. After inspecting the nutritional information again at home, I realised that the 'healthy' pasta quoted calories for 100g of COOKED pasta, where as the normal pasta quoted the calories for 100g of DRY pasta. I guess you could say I was a bit too careless when looking at the labels, but I thought it was very deceptive. In the end, both contained roughly the same amount of calories .
  • volume77
    volume77 Posts: 670 Member
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    When I was more overweight (and didn't count my calories) I would pick up one of those small bags of Chex mix, read the part of the label that says 200 cal/serving, see the part that says 2 servings think okay 400 calories, eat it and carry on with my day. Did I think about the fact that I had eaten 400 calories of chex mix later when I was making decisions about what to eat? No. That was my problem.



    i did this exact thing with cashews!!!!
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
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    3/4 cup of cereal sounds silly to me.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Lables in the US are better than some places. Per 100g isn't so great if they don't specify how many servings that is. You can't always carry a scale around.
    Uh, the point I was trying to make was that "serving" is a stupid, undefinable term... It's not a one-size fits all, and the standard diet it's based on does not apply to me or most people in the first place. And why do you need a label to dictate to you what your serving is? "Hmm, this box of cereal tells me it's 520 calories per 100 grams, but it doesn't tell me how many grams I should eat for one serving!! HELP!!" What? No, you eat however much of it you want to fit into your allotment. I eat 800 calories for breakfast, so I'd eat like 140g of said cereal and 240mL of almond milk... I don't need an omnipotent label to tell me, "BaconMD, you must eat 55 grams of this cereal. That is your serving size!" because, no, it's not. It's not enough.
    I think you are reading too much into the meaning of the word "serving." It is just a unit of measurement, not "how much you must eat at one time or else there is something wrong with you and the universe will explode."

    If you tried to standardize a unit for that, say all calories on labels must be per 100g, it would be weird too.
  • BaconMD
    BaconMD Posts: 1,165 Member
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    I think you are reading too much into the meaning of the word "serving."
    How could I possibly read too much into it when I just finished saying that the term is pointless and meaningless?

    There is no reason to use a non-standardized measurement for presenting nutrition info on a label, and even less of a reason to term said non-standardized measurement as a "serving."

    A "serving" is not equal in ANY way - weight, volume, calories, carbs, fat, etc. NOTHING is equal. All servings are different. Even the same food item from brand to brand has a different amount for a "serving." And there is no certain amount of "servings" we're supposed to eat in a day. So what is the point of calling it a "serving" when it means absolutely nothing? It's not even useful to measure a serving 99% of the time!
  • CCusedtodance
    CCusedtodance Posts: 237 Member
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    Wow, you really believe this is why people (such as me) are obese? It is obvious you HAVE NO CLUE. I will tell you why I am obese. I developed a food addiction at a very young age and I have never mastered it. I struggle each day to beat it. Do not laugh, for it does exists just like someone can have an addiction to porn, exercise, drugs, alcohol or other things. I think about good tasting food all the time. My mouth starts to water at just the thought of food. I crave food all the time. I used to plan my day around food. I made social activities around food. WHY? Because it controlled and at times still controls my life. Prior to starting on MFP I did not give a **** about food labels or serving sizes. I rarely if ever looked at the nutrition label. Not because I am stupid (as you suggest), but because I DID NOT CARE!!!!!

    As for the suggestion from another post that this country tax fast food, get real. Do you really believe that food addicts or obese people only get their food from fast food restaurants? I rarely went to fast food restaurants, for I enjoyed the process of making my own food and sharing it with those around me. I made huge pots of lasagna, chili, fried chicken, gravy on just about anything, cookies, cakes, etc. To tax fast food is just another tax. It hasn’t stopped alcoholics from drinking and it hasn’t stopped people from smoking. It will not stop obese people from eating.

    What obese people need is for everyone to stop judging them and calling them stupid or lazy. Every time they are ridiculed, they reach for food which is their comfort. No one wants to feel bullied, yet those who judge others as being weaker and then point out or make fun of those weaknesses are just that; bullies.

    Follow this link and learn about food addiction, then maybe some of you will understand and then maybe not.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/942220-food-addiction-it-really-does-exist

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