random thought regarding obesity

Malteaster

I think the problem is the disparity between the serving size shown on the packet front and the recommended serving size. Cereals show bowls brimming over with cereal but the 30g recommended portion just covers the bottom of the bowl. Before I started weighing portions I just assumed the picture on the front represented the advised serving.

SairahRose

What they should do then, is stop selling oversized bowls and plates, and sell smaller ones.
That way, people think they're getting more food than they are.
Mini cookies usually mean people tend to eat far more they should - and it has little to do with how many calories or g of sugar they contain.
Nouvelle cuisine is a pet peeve of mine. It looks pretty, but a tiny crumb on a huge plate isn't helping anyone.

I'm fat because I made those decisions. I know how many calories are in a serving, and I know how to measure the serving out. But before I started this journey, I didn't care. I liked my food, and wasn't going to let some numbers stop my eyes from deceiving my stomach.
To be honest, my portion sizes haven't changed that much, but I work out now, whereas before I didn't.

leighann881

I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.

Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

CoachReddy

I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.

Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

there is so much beautiful irony going on right here in the fact that she misread your post.

leighann881

3) Does anyone really break up their 20 ounce soda into 2.5 servings?

no but you can say 120 x 2.5 = 300 really... we all have calculators on our phones and that can be done in your head.

leighann881

i always get filled up with the label serving portion sizes

me too. It is a "suggested serving size" for a reason.

leighann881

I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.

Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

there is so much beautiful irony going on right here in the fact that she misread your post.

I know. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

redheaddee

1) No one is arguing that obese people don't often disregard serving sizes. No one is arguing that obese people can't do math.

2) Even as contentious eaters, serving sizes still remains a frustration

3) Does anyone really break up their 20 ounce soda into 2.5 servings?

4) It's tricky and underhanded that companies do so.

^
This

thank you.

it's not ONE thing or ANOTHER thing that is solely responsible for obesity in this country. it's en environment and a culture that makes it EASY to be obese that's at fault, and allllll of these things (including labeling practices) are a part of the issue.

people in here be trippin'

Read my OP, in which I suggested product labeling as a factor not the reason for obesity. Many in this post have suggested I blame product labeling for obesity. Incorrectly so if they read what I typed fully & completely. There can be hundreds and thousands of extraneous factors that result in obesity. It is as if some people half read posts...as they do product labels. Hmm.

BaconMD

I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.

Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

there is so much beautiful irony going on right here in the fact that she misread your post.

It's a very poorly written post. She should have been clearer. Maybe a few ESL classes?

And I'm a man... Thanks, though, coach.

leighann881

I can't accept that people are fat because they are too stupid to read a label.

Look lady, I was morbidly obese / obese class 3. Did I get that way because, as you put it, I was "stupid"? No. I am actually fairly intelligent. I'm not a scientist or doctor, but I'm not stupid.

I got to Err2 pounds by simply NOT GIVING A **** about what I ate. Plain and simple. That doesn't make me or anyone else stupid. Some of us simply did not care about food or nutrition beyond "does it taste good? If yes, then eat. If not puking, eat more." Labels do not even factor into it. Calories, macronutrients, micronutrients - doesn't matter. And many restaurants and fast food places don't even have the info labeled in their establisments, and 75% or more of my meals came from such places.

It's a fact you have no choice BUT to accept: some people just do not care about things you think they should. And whether that's whales, seals, trees, 9-11, Twilight, or food, it doesn't make them stupid. It makes you weird.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

there is so much beautiful irony going on right here in the fact that she misread your post.

It's a very poorly written post. She should have been clearer. Maybe a few ESL classes?

And I'm a man... Thanks, though, coach.

You're lack of reading comprehension means that I am a poor writer? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You misread. Own it. Don't be a **** about it. Maybe you're the exception to the stupid rule?

mistesh

First this. "Usually obesity is the result of overeating, but in a small percentage of people excess weight gain is a symptom of another disease." So the vast majority of obese people might not have been so.

Medical Causes of Obesity
http://www.webmd.com/diet/medical-reasons-obesity

I know food labels. I look at food labels. I can usually guess serving sizes and calories in foods fairly accurate now that I have been paying attention to it for so long. However, that does not mean I actually stop eating at 1 serving because I know what 1 serving is <----That is the problem.

Food addiction and a lack of willpower play in. An addiction to processed food alerts of toxic hunger more often than real hunger. And because willpower is a finite resource, even the best of people fail at times.

The easiest way to get willpower on your side is to make it a habit. When it is put on automatic, it becomes effortless. Doing regular MFP logging for instance helps to strenghten this habit.

The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business by Charles Duhigg
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/870532-habits

Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength by Roy Baumeister
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813859-willpower-help?hl=willpower#posts-12455621

The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do To Get More of It by Kelly McGonigal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819097-best-book-i-ve-read-for-understanding-improving-willpower?hl=willpower#posts-12282020

BaconMD

I think you misread what I wrote. I said I can NOT accept that obesity is the result of stupidity. You hit my point home with the bolded portion above. I completely agree with you. (See underline)

there is so much beautiful irony going on right here in the fact that she misread your post.

It's a very poorly written post. She should have been clearer. Maybe a few ESL classes?

And I'm a man... Thanks, though, coach.

Your lack of reading comprehension means that I am a poor writer? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You misread. Own it. Don't be a **** about it. Maybe you're the exception to the stupid rule?

Yes, I misread your post, and you worded it awkwardly at best. Sorry.