Cancer risks not from food but ....

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  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Espressocycle wrote: »
    Keeping your cats indoors should be sufficient risk management.

    It probably isn't as these diseases are often caught at birth.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    So I should cook and eat my cats. Oh well, science says so, better do it.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    SRH7 wrote: »
    Put I've had my cat in bed with me every night for the past 10 years. I better get a full medical.

    :noway:

    You are aware that cats don't wipe their bottoms after pooing aren't you? That's why I won't let any animal get in my bed (even the ones I know and love).


    They also dont wash their paws after they dig in their litter box.

    They happily walk on your bed pillows, your couches and your kitchen counters if they feel like it.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    i shall have lung cancer sooner breathing the city air..

    anyway i may have any cat virus already , i have practically grown up with them!

    Have you heard of cat scratch disease?
    The cat was recognized as the natural reservoir of the disease in 1950 by Dr. Robert Debré.[7][8] Judy Dolan was the first person to be diagnosed with the disease in the United States of America.
    The causative organism was first thought to be Afipia felis, but this was disproved by immunological studies demonstrating that cat scratch fever patients developed antibodies to two other organisms, Bartonella henselae (B. henselae) and Bartonella clarridgeiae, which are rod-shaped Gram-negative bacteria.
    Kittens are more likely to carry the bacteria in their blood, and may therefore be more likely to transmit the disease than adult cats. However, the results of experimental studies showed that fleas serve as a vector for transmission of B. henselae among cats,[9] and that viable B. henselae are excreted in the feces of Ctenocephalides felis, the cat flea.[10] Another study showed that cats could be infected with B. henselae through intradermal inoculation using flea feces containing B. henselae.[11] As a consequence, it is believed that a likely means of transmission of B. henselae from cats to humans may be inoculation with flea feces containing B. henselae through a contaminated cat scratch wound or across a mucosal surface. Although Bartonella DNA has been reported in ticks, there is no evidence that CSD can be transmitted by tick bites.[12]

    My daughter almost lost the use of one eye as a child due to cat scratch disease.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    So I should cook and eat my cats. Oh well, science says so, better do it.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z4OZnQ4aTwc
  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
    edited April 2016
    I NEVER trusted those koalas. Just got a bad vibe. Sleeping all the time -- with one eye just peeping open. I had a feeling they were trying to get me.
    Oh yeah, and....are we going to talk about the treadmill classes that are sweeping the nation? I read about it on MFP. They've got one in Marin County, California. That's got to be normal.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    ... your pets, especially from our feline friends?

    It isn't processed food but viral risks from animals. Murine, feline and koala retrovirus have been found that cause various cancers in these species.

    However recent research has also found that these retroviruses can cause transspecies infections.
    The koala retrovirus (KoRV) is a gammaretrovirus closely related to the gibbon ape leukemia virus and induces leukemias and immune deficiencies associated with opportunistic infections, such as chlamydiosis. Here we characterize a KoRV newly isolated from an animal in a German zoo and show infection of human and rat cell lines in vitro and of rats in vivo, using immunological and PCR methods for virus detection. The KoRV transmembrane envelope protein (p15E) was cloned and expressed, and p15E-specific neutralizing antibodies able to prevent virus infection in vitro were developed. Finally, evidence for immunosuppressive properties of the KoRV was obtained.


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    I've been following cat leukemia viruses reports for years without much concern but with an open mind because my university professor, who discovered CLV, was so concerned that he went home and "disposed" of his cats.

    I'm not suggesting you do that but read up and perhaps that cute pet is not what you want to have at home?

    http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/zoonoticdisease.html

    Why would anyone post such nonsense? Nothing you have posted even remotely states that there is any human risk of cancer from any animal, let alone a cat. Here is the study you quoted:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1472152/#__ffn_sectitle

    This study is about koala retroviruses.
    This study uses human cells in vitro
    This study uses rat cells in vitro
    This study uses rats
    This did not use cats
    This study is 10 years old

    Your cornell link didn't work for me. Here is the brochure:

    http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/Health_Information/brochure_zoonoticdisease.cfm

    Please feel free to point out where it says cats are a cancer risk to humans.

    I truly can't understand why someone would post such a misleading title and then have nothing to back it up.
  • CassidyScaglione
    CassidyScaglione Posts: 673 Member
    Meh, apparently almost everything gives you cancer now a days... sun, no sun, this oil, that oil, eggs, cats, breathing in the city because of exhaust, breathing in the country because of pesticides... etc etc...

    So i guess I'll take my chances. At this point my strategy is more or less to avoid nuclear reactors in meltdown.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    johnwelk wrote: »
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    ... your pets, especially from our feline friends?

    It isn't processed food but viral risks from animals. Murine, feline and koala retrovirus have been found that cause various cancers in these species.

    However recent research has also found that these retroviruses can cause transspecies infections.
    The koala retrovirus (KoRV) is a gammaretrovirus closely related to the gibbon ape leukemia virus and induces leukemias and immune deficiencies associated with opportunistic infections, such as chlamydiosis. Here we characterize a KoRV newly isolated from an animal in a German zoo and show infection of human and rat cell lines in vitro and of rats in vivo, using immunological and PCR methods for virus detection. The KoRV transmembrane envelope protein (p15E) was cloned and expressed, and p15E-specific neutralizing antibodies able to prevent virus infection in vitro were developed. Finally, evidence for immunosuppressive properties of the KoRV was obtained.


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    I've been following cat leukemia viruses reports for years without much concern but with an open mind because my university professor, who discovered CLV, was so concerned that he went home and "disposed" of his cats.

    I'm not suggesting you do that but read up and perhaps that cute pet is not what you want to have at home?

    http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/zoonoticdisease.html

    Why would anyone post such nonsense? Nothing you have posted even remotely states that there is any human risk of cancer from any animal, let alone a cat. Here is the study you quoted:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1472152/#__ffn_sectitle

    This study is about koala retroviruses.
    This study uses human cells in vitro
    This study uses rat cells in vitro
    This study uses rats
    This did not use cats
    This study is 10 years old

    Your cornell link didn't work for me. Here is the brochure:

    http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/Health_Information/brochure_zoonoticdisease.cfm

    Please feel free to point out where it says cats are a cancer risk to humans.

    I truly can't understand why someone would post such a misleading title and then have nothing to back it up.

    Thanks for playing.
  • snowflake930
    snowflake930 Posts: 2,188 Member
    Seriously? What about the people who don't have a cat, nor never have had a cat, and they have had cancer, or died from cancer. JW, because I have 3 immediate family members, 2 of whom (father and older sister died, husband survivor) who have not had cats.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    snowflake930 wrote: »
    Seriously? What about the people who don't have a cat, nor never have had a cat, and they have had cancer, or died from cancer. JW, because I have 3 immediate family members, 2 of whom (father and older sister died, husband survivor) who have not had cats.

    How do you know they never got near cats?
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    snowflake930 wrote: »
    Seriously? What about the people who don't have a cat, nor never have had a cat, and they have had cancer, or died from cancer. JW, because I have 3 immediate family members, 2 of whom (father and older sister died, husband survivor) who have not had cats.

    How do you know they never got near cats?

    Did they ever listen to Yusuf Islam?
  • Suzie126q
    Suzie126q Posts: 8 Member
    I would say this depends on the cat. I am a 36 year Leukemia Survivor (I was 9) and my family and former neighbors have blamed it on a cat forever. No history of cancer in our family, and I honestly don't remember the cat. I'm told the next door neighbor brought home a stray from his work and I played with it, the cat was dirty and died a week after I was diagnosed.

    I think it depends on the cat and the care taking. Felines are known to be carriers of many germs/diseases.
  • snowflake930
    snowflake930 Posts: 2,188 Member
    edited April 2016
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    snowflake930 wrote: »
    Seriously? What about the people who don't have a cat, nor never have had a cat, and they have had cancer, or died from cancer. JW, because I have 3 immediate family members, 2 of whom (father and older sister died, husband survivor) who have not had cats.

    How do you know they never got near cats?

    Well, I know they never owned at cat, but, I guess most everyone has gotten near a cat/kitten, at one time or another, so I guess most of us are doomed.

    BTW, I have known a lot of cat people who have died, but not from cancer. How could that be?

  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Wait, doesn't this mean that people getting a cat scan to check for cancer will get cancer anyway? Clearly a big pharma conspiracy!
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    snowflake930 wrote: »
    How do you know they never got near cats?

    Well, I know they never owned at cat, but, I guess most everyone has gotten near a cat/kitten, at one time or another, so I guess most of us are doomed.

    BTW, I have known a lot of cat people who have died, but not from cancer. How could that be?

    Driving accidents?
    Asphixkated during their sleep?
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Wait, doesn't this mean that people getting a cat scan to check for cancer will get cancer anyway? Clearly a big pharma conspiracy!

    Clearly it is catastrophic.
  • snowflake930
    snowflake930 Posts: 2,188 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    Wait, doesn't this mean that people getting a cat scan to check for cancer will get cancer anyway? Clearly a big pharma conspiracy!

    Clearly it is catastrophic.

    I see what you are doing there, LOL

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