To bra? or not to bra? That is the question.

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  • drgnfly4
    drgnfly4 Posts: 41 Member
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    I had to look up the acronym POIDH.

    Learn something new every day.

    Regarding pictorial proof: I just did a yahoo image search for "native topless" and examined hundreds of images of topless natives, from papa new guinea to africa and the pacifc islands, and applied a little critical thinking. About 95% are completely perky with no sag. Those that I found that sagged were on very old women, very over weight women, or smoking women, sometimes more than one.

    The general appearance of the native (never wore a bra) breasts, were that the nipple always faced forward and sometimes a little upward, the shape had the appearance of firmness and gravity defiance. Their was a natural roundness to the majority of the samples, and very rarely did any portion of the lower breast come into contact with the woman's torso.

    And since the internet is notoriously poor at parsing images with complete reliability, you also get a smattering of gratuitous prurient images(i.e. western women modeling for porn or what have you) and it's clear that the western bra wearing women have saggier breasts. Even the western bra wearing women's B cups sagged more frequently than the native women's C cups. The pictures really do tell the tale.

    If you do the same search under videos, beware, it's almost all porn. The few videos of actual bra-less natives however were very telling, in that even while dancing their breasts exhibited a perky firmness and staying power that defies logic. And less you think it's a purely genetic reality, the one video documentary of a naturist/nudist colony where the women are not only sans the bra but sans the top 24x7 the same perky perfection abounded.

    Now obviously if examining this material would be offensive to you, or your code of ethics, or if you have a porn addiction I suggest steering well clear. However, if you are a female wanting real evidence that breasts that are never supported by braziers have superior loft and perkiness by all means the proof is clear and only a few clicks and key strokes away.

    I was amazed at the difference. Clear as day and night! After looking at over two hundred images it became very clear that the bra-less breast has a look of health, firmness and strength to it, while the brazier bound breasts are a saggy flabby bunch. (Exceptions abound, but the general rule was obvious.) Amazing!
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,473 Member
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    LET THEM HANG!
  • Justjamie0418
    Justjamie0418 Posts: 1,065 Member
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    Girl, if you can.. no bra.

    I wish I could do that. Even with my (somewhat small) 36 Cs I wear a bra ALWAYS, I have to or I feel really awkward. I need to practice not wearing one. I Used to have quite a bit of boobage... 42 Fs. When I lost my weight, there they went. I have also had 5 babies who I nursed. SO, my poor boobies need a make over. They are horrible, but they aren't spectacular either.


    True story, before I lost my weight when I was around 20ish, I never looked in the mirror naked, ever. Really, I had no idea that my nipples never pointed to the ground and my boobs were actually quite nice then. once I started looking in the mirror I felt like an idiot, always looking down from the top I thought they always pointed down. :embarassed: :laugh:
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
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    I had to look up the acronym POIDH.

    Learn something new every day.

    Regarding pictorial proof: I just did a yahoo image search for "native topless" and examined hundreds of images of topless natives, from papa new guinea to africa and the pacifc islands, and applied a little critical thinking. About 95% are completely perky with no sag. Those that I found that sagged were on very old women, very over weight women, or smoking women, sometimes more than one.

    The general appearance of the native (never wore a bra) breasts, were that the nipple always faced forward and sometimes a little upward, the shape had the appearance of firmness and gravity defiance. Their was a natural roundness to the majority of the samples, and very rarely did any portion of the lower breast come into contact with the woman's torso.

    And since the internet is notoriously poor at parsing images with complete reliability, you also get a smattering of gratuitous prurient images(i.e. western women modeling for porn or what have you) and it's clear that the western bra wearing women have saggier breasts. Even the western bra wearing women's B cups sagged more frequently than the native women's C cups. The pictures really do tell the tale.

    If you do the same search under videos, beware, it's almost all porn. The few videos of actual bra-less natives however were very telling, in that even while dancing their breasts exhibited a perky firmness and staying power that defies logic. And less you think it's a purely genetic reality, the one video documentary of a naturist/nudist colony where the women are not only sans the bra but sans the top 24x7 the same perky perfection abounded.

    Now obviously if examining this material would be offensive to you, or your code of ethics, or if you have a porn addiction I suggest steering well clear. However, if you are a female wanting real evidence that breasts that are never supported by braziers have superior loft and perkiness by all means the proof is clear and only a few clicks and key strokes away.

    I was amazed at the difference. Clear as day and night! After looking at over two hundred images it became very clear that the bra-less breast has a look of health, firmness and strength to it, while the brazier bound breasts are a saggy flabby bunch. (Exceptions abound, but the general rule was obvious.) Amazing!

    OK.... now you are getting creepy.
  • alehundrah
    alehundrah Posts: 156 Member
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    I'm always bra less when I'm at home. More comfortable. I'm a 38D and I know i'm supposed to wear a bra at all times but I prefer to be braless. I prefer sports bras to bras. Much more comfy.
  • Witchmoo
    Witchmoo Posts: 261 Member
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  • Sqeekyjojo
    Sqeekyjojo Posts: 704 Member
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    OK.... now you are getting creepy.

    Only now?
  • graciepecie
    graciepecie Posts: 135 Member
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    Need pics of you with bra and sans bra to make an educated response. Don't worry, it's strictly for scientific purposes.

    :laugh:
  • LadyZephyr
    LadyZephyr Posts: 286 Member
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    I wish I could wear a bra without having to tuck my arms under my boobs for support.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
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    OK.... now you are getting creepy.

    Only now?

    Yeah. You are right.
  • drgnfly4
    drgnfly4 Posts: 41 Member
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    OK.... now you are getting creepy.

    Creepiness not intended, my apologies for any offense! Scientific understanding passionately pursued always.
  • sangeyvang
    sangeyvang Posts: 182
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    whenever i'm at home, i always go bra-less. unless they feel like they need a lift. lol! sometimes i just wear a sport bra.
  • Mischievous_Rascal
    Mischievous_Rascal Posts: 1,791 Member
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    I'm minutes away from taking off to Jamaica for a week and I'm not packing any bras at all!!! Whoot!!! :)
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
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    If I'm in public or physically active, I've got a bra on and clothing. I like to be comfortable, though, so the bra comes off when I'm chilling in private. My level of boob coverage at home depends on the season, though. If it's winter, I'm bra-less under clothing. If it's summer, I'm not wearing anything at all. Spring and fall are bra-less under various states of undress. My husband loves it - LOL!
  • poedunk65
    poedunk65 Posts: 1,336 Member
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    bouncy, bouncy bounce!!!! I love boobs free swingin!!!! lol
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
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    You can only go bra-free if you pass the pencil test.

    Place a pencill under one boob. If the pencil falls, you don't need a bra. If the pencil gets held there, then you need to wear a bra.
  • heymirth
    heymirth Posts: 448
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    Let them hang. So sexy
  • icmuse
    icmuse Posts: 263 Member
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    The Myth is that wearing a brazier will keep em perky. The opposite is true. Women who have NEVER worn a bra develop micro muscles, and stringer connective tissues that hold the gals aloft. They do not sag from age or lack of a bra, they sag from never having to develop natural loft, or fitness. It's an interesting topic, because the body is so much more amazing than we give it credit in our rush to modify and help everything. The older I get and the more I experience the more I become convinced everything is better as God/Nature intended. As has been mentioned well developed chest muscles help the issue.

    Now as for my vote: No Bra (And not because I am hoping for a cheap thrill) I vote no because bras are linked to breast cancer due to their affect on both lymph fluid and blood circulation. The human body has more lymph fluid than blood, and the job it does is to remove toxins. Your blood provides nutrients, oxygen and removes toxins. Impeding circulation causes negative health effects and bras impair circulation.

    Bras were invented as alternatives to corsets whose sole purpose was to force a high and accentuated cleavage. They are not health items, in fact stopping wearing a bra has been shown in multiple studies to enhance and lift breasts.

    What follows is a Wikipedia entry on bras and breast sagging: (I looked this up just to quote something but I have already read a number of artlcles over the years backing this up, so it's something I am familiar with from multiple independent sources.)

    Heredity plays a part in breast size and shape, including helping determine characteristics like skin elasticity and the amount of breast tissue.[147] Breast skin retains a youthful appearance through the contribution of a protein called elastin. Internally, the breasts are composed of the mammary glands which remain relatively constant throughout life, fat tissue which surround the mammary glands, milk ducts, and Cooper's ligaments. The milk ducts don't influence breast size until a woman becomes pregnant, and again when she begins lactating. It is the amount and distribution of adipose tissue and, to a lesser extent, glandular tissue, that leads to variations in breast size. The exact function of Cooper's ligaments and their role in supporting breast tissue is not certain.[148][149]

    The biggest factors affecting whether a woman's breasts sag are the number of children she has had, her body mass index, the size of her breasts before pregnancy, and whether she smokes cigarettes.[150][151][150][152] Cigarettes contribute to sagging because they break down elastin, decreasing the breast's elastic appearance and external support." When breasts sag, the breast tissue folds down over the infra-mammary fold, the point where the underside of the breasts attach to the chest wall. As a result, the breast's lower (inferior) surface lies against the chest wall. In some cases, the women's nipple may even point towards the ground.

    Two small studies provide some indication that wearing a bra may have an overall negative affect on sagging breasts. In a Japanese study, 11 women were measured wearing a standardised fitted bra for three months. They found that breasts became larger and lower. The underbust measurement decreased and the overbust measurement increased, while the lowest point of the breast moved downwards and outwards. The effect was more pronounced in larger-breasted women. This may be related to the particular bra chosen for the experiment, as there was some improvement after changing to a different model.[153] A year-long study in France followed 33 women who were active in sports at least four hours per week. They agreed to stop wearing a brassiere for one year. Their position of their breasts and nipples were biometrically assessed four times during the year. Before the study began, a majority of the women reported some discomfort while wearing a bra. Researcher Dr. Laetitia Pierrot found at the end of the year that 88% of the women reported feeling increased comfort. Her physical assessment of participants showed strengthened rotator and pectoral muscles, fewer stretch marks, and an overall improvement in the height of the women's nipple-aerola complex when measured relative to her shoulder. Contrary to popular belief, the women's breasts did not sag further, but their position on the woman's chest actually improved.[154]

    These findings were confirmed by Jean Denis Rouillon, sports physician at the University Hospital of Besançon, France, in a much larger 3-year-long French study of 250 women beginning in 2006.[155][156] One example is given of a woman who had breasts that were uncomfortably large, and who experienced improvement after two years of not wearing a bra.[157


    To bra? or not to bra? That is the question. The answer is for your health and breast appearance, just say no to the bra!

    Now, there are exceptions... My wife for example wears a bra while breast feeding our children, to keep the breast pads which absorb leaking milk in place and avoid embarrassing milk stains. Between children she is bra-less 24x7 except when a certain outfit or outing would be material benefited by the wearing of a bra. Otherwise she does not wear one, particularly at home or to bed.

    There are also women whose breasts are very large and who may need one for work or social outings. But this class of breast is the hardest to fit properly with a good bra and is the highest risk group for the negative health effects of braziers.

    My two cents...
    That's funny; Thanks for the laugh!

    You are welcome. Wearing a bra is like using a wheel chair when you are capable of walking, will your legs get more fit or less? Breasts have connective tissues, ligaments, and underlying muscles which all gain health, strength and firmness when asked to do what they were designed to do, like any other body part. Do we really believe the human body NEEDS anything wraps tightly around it to make it stronger?

    Makes no sense at all...

    If I ever wore a bra, knowing what I know now, would free me immediately. Reading these studies and others over the years, has convinced me the best way to enhance breast health and fitness is forgo the brazier whenever possible and build chest strength. It's very encouraging that the one woman, "with uncomfortably large breasts, in the above mentioned study spent two years not wearing a bra and had improvement in her comfort level!

    What's natural is generally light years ahead of what's artificial.

    Free the gals and watch em perk right up, if these one to three year studies showed improvements in both comfort and breast loft, just imagine what never wearing a bra would do for you!

    Are you a professional breastologist? I am impressed with the amount of research you do! :flowerforyou:
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    OK.... now you are getting creepy.

    Only now?

    Yeah, this.
  • PetulantOne
    PetulantOne Posts: 2,131 Member
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    Oh... I am almost always bra-less any time I'm at home!


    Commando too!

    Ditto!