No Pain No Gain?

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  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    Maybe you could use a little break, maybe try just some light exercise for a few days so you have time to heal. I know when I push myself to hard the pain just wont go away until I finally give myself a break. Good luck, I hope it gets better

    Thank you honey
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
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    I didn't assume anything. Simply defined what the phrase meant. You took it as an attack.
    I use 15 pound dumbbells I purchased at Academy. I am not using the little 5 pound pink ones. I used them 2 years ago when I was way heavier and first starting out. I workout every day and try to do strength training at least 4 times a week. I'm not weak but it's how the pain makes me feel. Does that make any sense?

    Any improvement is always good. When I said "you" I meant it in a royal you. Not you specifically. Really, what I meant was the saying is referring to coming out of our comfort zone. If you don't, you won't change. Pain, as in an injury is something different and needs to be treated as such.

    Btw, if you are having mobility issues, as in joint problems, look into mobility wod. When I actually do these, I see a lot of improvement in problems.
  • Sqeekyjojo
    Sqeekyjojo Posts: 704 Member
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.


    1. Check your bra size is correct. It could easily be because you've changed shape so much that there's something not quite right with what you're wearing.

    2. Could it be left over from carrying the extra weight of your top half for so long?

    3. How good is your posture? Are you slouching forward to try and hide a large top half you don't have anymore? Are you still standing as though you're carrying an extra 200lb on your front? Is one side tighter than the other?


    If it's the last option, you could get a photo of yourself from behind and the side, see if your back looks straight, shoulder blades in (not sticking out like wings), shoulders and hips level, for the side shot, whether you're pushing your head forward, slumping, that kind of thing. If it looks uneven, see a doctor and make sure you do or don't have curvature of the spine/scoliosis (often unnoticed when people are very overweight, but easy to see when slimmer) - and then you can have physio/PT to make sure you strengthen the muscles on each side evenly, adopt a safe posture, etc.


    And once that's all decided, and you get the OK, maybe see a chiropractor/osteopath/someone qualified to treat such issues.



    In the meantime, be EXTRA careful of your posture - no lifting and twisting at the same time - bend your knees rather than lean over to pick stuff up, carry heavy stuff close to your body instead of out at arms' length. Be aware at all times, not just when it hurts.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    Thank you for replying and now I see what you were trying to say.
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.

    Sounds like nerve pain to me. I would recommend a massage or an appt with a physiotherapist.

    Generally, though, you sound tired. Are you the type that can let up for a week and then come back hard? If not, maybe you need to switch up the workouts to breathe new life into them.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.


    1. Check your bra size is correct. It could easily be because you've changed shape so much that there's something not quite right with what you're wearing.

    2. Could it be left over from carrying the extra weight of your top half for so long?

    3. How good is your posture? Are you slouching forward to try and hide a large top half you don't have anymore? Are you still standing as though you're carrying an extra 200lb on your front? Is one side tighter than the other?


    If it's the last option, you could get a photo of yourself from behind and the side, see if your back looks straight, shoulder blades in (not sticking out like wings), shoulders and hips level, for the side shot, whether you're pushing your head forward, slumping, that kind of thing. If it looks uneven, see a doctor and make sure you do or don't have curvature of the spine/scoliosis (often unnoticed when people are very overweight, but easy to see when slimmer) - and then you can have physio/PT to make sure you strengthen the muscles on each side evenly, adopt a safe posture, etc.


    And once that's all decided, and you get the OK, maybe see a chiropractor/osteopath/someone qualified to treat such issues.



    In the meantime, be EXTRA careful of your posture - no lifting and twisting at the same time - bend your knees rather than lean over to pick stuff up, carry heavy stuff close to your body instead of out at arms' length. Be aware at all times, not just when it hurts.

    It sadly is none of those things. I just think I pulled something while doing Jillian's Ripped in 30 and I was not using the lightest of weights..
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.

    Sounds like nerve pain to me. I would recommend a massage or an appt with a physiotherapist.

    Generally, though, you sound tired. Are you the type that can let up for a week and then come back hard? If not, maybe you need to switch up the workouts to breathe new life into them.
    I never let myself rest...that's my problem
  • Sqeekyjojo
    Sqeekyjojo Posts: 704 Member
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    Thank you for replying and now I see what you were trying to say.

    No probs. Basically, if it's posture related in any way, you need to stop, readjust and let it settle down a bit. Once you do, it'll be a real relief - but if you're changing old habits in standing as well as everything else, like with eating, it takes a while to get used to the new changes. You might feel lopsided or uneven when your posture is corrected - keep with it, this feeling is because you're used to being wonky - and it goes.


    ETA: a Jillian thing. With heavy weights. That bloody woman.


    You have to rest. And go down a size in weights at the very least when you restart.
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.


    1. Check your bra size is correct. It could easily be because you've changed shape so much that there's something not quite right with what you're wearing.

    2. Could it be left over from carrying the extra weight of your top half for so long?

    3. How good is your posture? Are you slouching forward to try and hide a large top half you don't have anymore? Are you still standing as though you're carrying an extra 200lb on your front? Is one side tighter than the other?


    If it's the last option, you could get a photo of yourself from behind and the side, see if your back looks straight, shoulder blades in (not sticking out like wings), shoulders and hips level, for the side shot, whether you're pushing your head forward, slumping, that kind of thing. If it looks uneven, see a doctor and make sure you do or don't have curvature of the spine/scoliosis (often unnoticed when people are very overweight, but easy to see when slimmer) - and then you can have physio/PT to make sure you strengthen the muscles on each side evenly, adopt a safe posture, etc.


    And once that's all decided, and you get the OK, maybe see a chiropractor/osteopath/someone qualified to treat such issues.



    In the meantime, be EXTRA careful of your posture - no lifting and twisting at the same time - bend your knees rather than lean over to pick stuff up, carry heavy stuff close to your body instead of out at arms' length. Be aware at all times, not just when it hurts.

    It sadly is none of those things. I just think I pulled something while doing Jillian's Ripped in 30 and I was not using the lightest of weights..

    If it comes and goes, it is not like to be a muscle pull, IMO. I think the posture/physio/chiro suggestions were good ones.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    I didn't assume anything. Simply defined what the phrase meant. You took it as an attack.
    I use 15 pound dumbbells I purchased at Academy. I am not using the little 5 pound pink ones. I used them 2 years ago when I was way heavier and first starting out. I workout every day and try to do strength training at least 4 times a week. I'm not weak but it's how the pain makes me feel. Does that make any sense?

    Any improvement is always good. When I said "you" I meant it in a royal you. Not you specifically. Really, what I meant was the saying is referring to coming out of our comfort zone. If you don't, you won't change. Pain, as in an injury is something different and needs to be treated as such.

    Btw, if you are having mobility issues, as in joint problems, look into mobility wod. When I actually do these, I see a lot of improvement in problems.
    Thank you for clearing that up for me
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    How true is this statement?

    I push myself through every cardio and strength workout I do and the pain just is never as good as people think it is. I'm worried I may be pushing myself too far. I just always second guess myself and my body. Damn scale...tape measure isn't my friend either.

    The other issue is not knowing what is fat or loose skin seeing I've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I have done well with my eating and thought my exercising also. I have been trying to maintain right now but the scale still goes up up up then slowly drops down..

    Stress, lack of sleep..who knows?

    I really just hear it all and only wish I knew if I'm being a lil baby or if this pain is serious...it goes away then comes back..


    OK. I get you aren't confident and don't quite trust yourself right now. Don't take this as an attack, but you are warbling a bit and we need some straight answers from you.

    WHAT pain?

    WHERE is it shooting from/to?

    Answer and we might be able to get somewhere.

    Sorry for not being clear. It is in my back, left side, right where my bra comes around. It's a shooting pain and comes and goes. It's not bad at the moment but it will come back once I lay down. I always cramp up.


    1. Check your bra size is correct. It could easily be because you've changed shape so much that there's something not quite right with what you're wearing.

    2. Could it be left over from carrying the extra weight of your top half for so long?

    3. How good is your posture? Are you slouching forward to try and hide a large top half you don't have anymore? Are you still standing as though you're carrying an extra 200lb on your front? Is one side tighter than the other?


    If it's the last option, you could get a photo of yourself from behind and the side, see if your back looks straight, shoulder blades in (not sticking out like wings), shoulders and hips level, for the side shot, whether you're pushing your head forward, slumping, that kind of thing. If it looks uneven, see a doctor and make sure you do or don't have curvature of the spine/scoliosis (often unnoticed when people are very overweight, but easy to see when slimmer) - and then you can have physio/PT to make sure you strengthen the muscles on each side evenly, adopt a safe posture, etc.


    And once that's all decided, and you get the OK, maybe see a chiropractor/osteopath/someone qualified to treat such issues.



    In the meantime, be EXTRA careful of your posture - no lifting and twisting at the same time - bend your knees rather than lean over to pick stuff up, carry heavy stuff close to your body instead of out at arms' length. Be aware at all times, not just when it hurts.

    It sadly is none of those things. I just think I pulled something while doing Jillian's Ripped in 30 and I was not using the lightest of weights..

    If it comes and goes, it is not like to be a muscle pull, IMO. I think the posture/physio/chiro suggestions were good ones.
    This pain does but it's not the only pain I get.
  • Sjenny5891
    Sjenny5891 Posts: 717 Member
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    If I was in your shoes, I would probably see a specialist to get a peogram together. It may be hurting because you are doing it wrong?? or because of some underlying disorder you need fixed?? Or something else altogether.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    If I was in your shoes, I would probably see a specialist to get a peogram together. It may be hurting because you are doing it wrong?? or because of some underlying disorder you need fixed?? Or something else altogether.
    I just have pushed myself maybe too far
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    Look, let's start with the basics, you've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you've done some damn hard work to get there. I'm sure you've become accustomed to pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, and you've worked hard to get here.

    Now, step back.

    (1) How many days a week are you working out, both cardio and strength training? For how long each time?
    (2) You're doing a 30 day program? What's next?
    (3) When was the last time you took a week off?

    Bodies need rest. There is no shame in that. The mistake comes in letting an important rest day or week grow into not going back to working out. I imagine that's not going to be a problem here though.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    Look, let's start with the basics, you've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you've done some damn hard work to get there. I'm sure you've become accustomed to pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, and you've worked hard to get here.

    Now, step back.

    (1) How many days a week are you working out, both cardio and strength training? For how long each time?
    (2) You're doing a 30 day program? What's next?
    (3) When was the last time you took a week off?

    Bodies need rest. There is no shame in that. The mistake comes in letting an important rest day or week grow into not going back to working out. I imagine that's not going to be a problem here though.
    I took a week off last back in 2011 due to ovarian cyst surgery....
  • CMGoodie
    CMGoodie Posts: 93 Member
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    From the sounds of it, it sounds like you have overworked, have tendonitis and on the verge of tearing something.

    It's good to push yourself, but no matter where you are in your training and for what purpose, you only get strong by allowing your body to rest then begin again.

    Everyone needs to allow proper rest which is just as important.

    Go to a sports physician, they specialize in injuries related to sports activities....they can pinpoint alot quicker than a family physician (at least in my experience).

    Good luck and rest.
  • MyProgressISYour1Proof
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    From the sounds of it, it sounds like you have overworked, have tendonitis and on the verge of tearing something.

    It's good to push yourself, but no matter where you are in your training and for what purpose, you only get strong by allowing your body to rest then begin again.

    Everyone needs to allow proper rest which is just as important.

    Go to a sports physician, they specialize in injuries related to sports activities....they can pinpoint alot quicker than a family physician (at least in my experience).

    Good luck and rest.

    Thank you :)
  • JosieRawr
    JosieRawr Posts: 788 Member
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    I tend to take shooting pains as a cry for help... I can deal with the occasional lactic acid burn of a new workout, I can do the omg I lifted so much I can barely move, and any of the fatigued feelings of a good workout, but shooting pains I see as a warning. It may be time for a break, set a restart date if you're worried about it getting outta control, take a week or two with light cardio(walking or something low impact you enjoy)-by this I do not mean go treadmill for an hour, just to be clear... try to get some quality sleep(my personal weakness) and let your body have a break. It's been over a year, and you've come so far, you're doing fabulously!

    Good luck, hope you feel better soon!

    Also a nice bath by candle light or a little resting meditation or some simple soothing yoga can work wonders as well.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    Look, let's start with the basics, you've lost 200 pounds in 3 years. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you've done some damn hard work to get there. I'm sure you've become accustomed to pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, and you've worked hard to get here.

    Now, step back.

    (1) How many days a week are you working out, both cardio and strength training? For how long each time?
    (2) You're doing a 30 day program? What's next?
    (3) When was the last time you took a week off?

    Bodies need rest. There is no shame in that. The mistake comes in letting an important rest day or week grow into not going back to working out. I imagine that's not going to be a problem here though.
    I took a week off last back in 2011 due to ovarian cyst surgery....

    Go see a doctor and take a week or two off. It's not going to hurt your progress.