high protein = high fat !
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For most people, it's better to have your fat percentage to be higher than your protein percentage. I do 20% protein and 35% fats. Proteins and fats should be treated as minimums, not maximums.
Sorry that's just plain BS. Carbs should be minimums, especially the crap carbs that comes with over processed foods!
Eat clean, make your own, use organic and locally grown foods and you'll do fine.0 -
I lost weight consistently with 30% protein, 30% carb, and 40% fat. I am now bulking on the same ratio. Animal fat is good for you and satiating. We evolved to eat it, and our brain is mostly fat. EAT IT! Most body builders suggest a 30p/40c/30f and these are very healthy people.0
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For most people, it's better to have your fat percentage to be higher than your protein percentage. I do 20% protein and 35% fats. Proteins and fats should be treated as minimums, not maximums.
Sorry that's just plain BS. Carbs should be minimums, especially the crap carbs that comes with over processed foods!
Eat clean, make your own, use organic and locally grown foods and you'll do fine.
you're both wrong :flowerforyou:
Protein should be based on your LBM - about .7-1g/pound of lean body mass. This should stay CONSTANT
Fat can be whatever the hell you want it to be as long as it's not lower than 20%
Carbs can be whatever the hell you want it to be
For me this ends up being 25% carb, 55% fat, 20% protein0 -
Carbs do not make you fat, and fat does not make you fat. On the other hand, carbs keep you full for the shortest amount of time, making it much harder to hit a calorie goal/deficit with a high percentage of carbs. Fat keeps you full for the longest amount of time, but you really need to watch intake because they are so dense. You can eat a lot of calories before the food has a chance to trip your "full" feeling if you eat quickly.
The only macro-nutrient to be proven to help with weight loss long term is protein, and the data even on that gets shaky once you surpass 1g per pound of lean body mass.0 -
I am working with a doctor who says always choose low carb before low fat, i don't even count my fat just protein and carbs. It will sort itself out. Plus, you feel full quicker and don't eat as much, at least that's the theory!
This. There are plenty of nonfat to very lowfat sources of protein, but what the studies are finding these days is that your enemy is refined carbs, not fats--especially the good fats like olive oil and oils from fish, nuts and avocados. I'll include a link to an interesting study; I just attended a seminar on this and similar studies. People who eat more proteins and fats, as opposed to more carbs, lose more weight and burn more calories--the equivalent, in this study, of more than 300 calories a day. Their metabolisms do a lot less slowing. I'm not talking about eating Atkins-like, I still have plenty of fruits and veggies in my life and a much smaller amount of whole grains. But the research says we have irrationally come to fear fat and it's actually a help in losing weight. I can't see your food diary, but if you sacrifice some carbs calories to increase your fat calories, you'll lose more weight and also feel a far higher level of satiety.
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/0 -
This generally correct, with the exception of those that for medical reasons should reduce either their carbohydrate intake (diabetes or insulin-resistance for whatever reason) or those that should reduce their fats (if they have cholecystitis, etc.)Protein should be based on your LBM - about .7-1g/pound of lean body mass. This should stay CONSTANT
Fat can be whatever the hell you want it to be as long as it's not lower than 20%
Carbs can be whatever the hell you want it to be
For me this ends up being 25% carb, 55% fat, 20% protein0 -
I don't mind eating more fat along with more protein. However, foods like tuna, shrimp, and skinless chicken breast are extremely low in fat. A little research with a search engine will turn up plenty of very low fat sources of protein.
Nonfat dairy is high in protein too, but also adds to your carb intake.0 -
This generally correct, with the exception of those that for medical reasons should reduce either their carbohydrate intake (diabetes or insulin-resistance for whatever reason) or those that should reduce their fats (if they have cholecystitis, etc.)Protein should be based on your LBM - about .7-1g/pound of lean body mass. This should stay CONSTANT
Fat can be whatever the hell you want it to be as long as it's not lower than 20%
Carbs can be whatever the hell you want it to be
For me this ends up being 25% carb, 55% fat, 20% protein
absolutely true. people with autoimmune issues have different nutritional needs.0 -
I just had ghetto sushi for lunch lol Low sodium tuna and 1/4 cup shredded cheddar warmed up to melt the cheese a little then place little scoops on my semi thick sliced cucumbers some sweet peppers, carrots and gaucamole on the side and I am sittin on 28 protein just for lunch alone and 14 for fat. But only 318 calories...I just started so I am focusing on fat loss atm. Other than that nuts are great,cheese.0
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fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats0
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fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??0 -
I aim for 50% carbs, 25% fat, 25% protein and I have been losing weight consistently at around 1lb per week for the last couple of months. Carbs are not evil.0
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fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??
You can get some high fat content in salmon, like around 20 grams in a 5 ounce serving. I consider that a good thing.0 -
EAT THE FAT, TINA!0
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All fats are NOT created equal. I have awesome hair and nails thanks to the good fats. Eat them.
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Reduced or fat free yogurt, cheese--dairy in general.
Tofu, tempeh, quinoa, barley to name a few things.
Protein powder can help too-good protein/fat ratio there.0 -
I aim for 50% carbs, 25% fat, 25% protein and I have been losing weight consistently at around 1lb per week for the last couple of months. Carbs are not evil.
That seems to work for you - great! For me, eating 20-30% carbs and splitting the rest between protein and fat means that I feel satisfied.0 -
low fat cottage cheese, low fat greek yogurt, low fat milk, high protien granolas
Fats aren't bad - when the industry makes something low fat, they almost always add sugars and other crap carbs to make the foods palatable. Granola is not good, look at the ingredients. Greek yogurt with "fruits" are so much added sugars! Protein bars are not great either since they too are added sugars and carbs, although they are better than candy.
Lean proteins - meats, FISH, eggs, some cheese - it's all good for you and if you are lifting heavy weights you should eat at least 1gm of lean protein for every pound of lean body weight. I actually shoot for 150gm of protein each day.
ETA: You don't have to follow MFP macros, you can customize them to suit your nutritional needs.
QFT. Fat is delicious and satisfying and you should eat it.0 -
Most vegetarian proteins have no fat or very lttle fat.
Totally agree with this, veg protein all the way!0 -
All fats are not the same. I try to stay away from trans fats and saturated fats, but try to get plenty of poly/monounsaturated. Salmon, avocados, lean meat, nuts all have healthy fats (plus a lot of other foods, but those are just off the top of my head.) Keep in mind what kind of fat you're eating. I'm upping my protein as well and I rarely ever get any saturated or trans fat in my diet. I say rarely, but not never because I usually do end up having something during the day with a few grams in it.0
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low fat cottage cheese, low fat greek yogurt, low fat milk, high protien granolas
Fats aren't bad - when the industry makes something low fat, they almost always add sugars and other crap carbs to make the foods palatable. Granola is not good, look at the ingredients. Greek yogurt with "fruits" are so much added sugars! Protein bars are not great either since they too are added sugars and carbs, although they are better than candy.
Lean proteins - meats, FISH, eggs, some cheese - it's all good for you and if you are lifting heavy weights you should eat at least 1gm of lean protein for every pound of lean body weight. I actually shoot for 150gm of protein each day.
ETA: You don't have to follow MFP macros, you can customize them to suit your nutritional needs.
THIS is some of the best advice....people need to educate themselves about the myth that fat is bad for you.
Eat fat so your body won't hold on to the fat you do have for dear life. Eat fat = lose fat.0 -
Most vegetarian proteins have no fat or very lttle fat.
Totally agree with this, veg protein all the way!
But you usually get a bunch of carbs with it, like in beans and grains, so unless you plan to just eat tofu and TVP, you can expect your calorie requirements to be higher to get the same amount of protein than they would be if you ate lean meat. And if you decide to eat tofu, because it's low fat, you'd still get more protein and less fat eating most fish.0 -
fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??
You can get some high fat content in salmon, like around 20 grams in a 5 ounce serving. I consider that a good thing.
I guess it really depends on if you eat wild or farmed
(but yes, agreed that the fat is a good thing)0 -
Try going to this website: ViSalus.com. The base product is a meal replacement shakes. There the healthiest shake out there and they are surprisingly delicious and very filling! If you can imagine the same taste that vanilla cream cake mix is, this is your base flavor. I have a hard time eating breakfast....so I usually have one of these.
yes. don't eat real food. eat a vanilla cream cake mix shake...... bound to be better for you.0 -
Unless you're eating some pretty funky salmon, 5oz is typically around 10g of fat, except for farmed which is slightly higher (12-15g)... but I prefer wild.fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??
You can get some high fat content in salmon, like around 20 grams in a 5 ounce serving. I consider that a good thing.
The general rule of thumb is the colder water the fish lives in, the higher the fat content. Even high-fat content fish such as herring, mackerel, sardines, etc., aren't all that high-fat, depending on your definition of "high fat". The highest fat fish we consume is normally about 50% fat by caloric content, depending on the fish.
On the other hand, take a ribeye steak, even trimmed of fat, and you're still eating about 70% fat by caloric content.0 -
I agree - fat doesn't make you fat. Carbs make you fat.
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whenever I try to increase my protein intake, my fat intake rises as well ! when I eat fish, meat, eggs fat percentage gets out of control ...
how can I increase my protein intake up to 30% while keeping fat intake below 25% ?
and what's a healthy ratio anyways ? is it bad if my diet is high in fats ?
I don't understand where the fat is coming from. Egg whites have the majority of the protein and almost no fat. A full can of tuna has 1g of fat or less.0 -
I just had a look at the nutritional information on those shakes, and they're just a low-fat calorie-restricted diet product. The biggest problem is they don't contain enough dietary fat to properly regulate hormones in a human being... Scary, not healthy.
yes. don't eat real food. eat a vanilla cream cake mix shake...... bound to be better for you.Try going to this website: ViSalus.com. The base product is a meal replacement shakes. There the healthiest shake out there and they are surprisingly delicious and very filling! If you can imagine the same taste that vanilla cream cake mix is, this is your base flavor. I have a hard time eating breakfast....so I usually have one of these.0 -
Unless you're eating some pretty funky salmon, 5oz is typically around 10g of fat, except for farmed which is slightly higher (12-15g)... but I prefer wild.fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??
You can get some high fat content in salmon, like around 20 grams in a 5 ounce serving. I consider that a good thing.
The general rule of thumb is the colder water the fish lives in, the higher the fat content. Even high-fat content fish such as herring, mackerel, sardines, etc., aren't all that high-fat, depending on your definition of "high fat". The highest fat fish we consume is normally about 50% fat by caloric content, depending on the fish.
On the other hand, take a ribeye steak, even trimmed of fat, and you're still eating about 70% fat by caloric content.
I don't eat salmon that is funky. I'm on the west coast, and we get a lot of options in wild salmon. Coho is lower in fat. Chinook is higher, and more delicious.0 -
Unless you're eating some pretty funky salmon, 5oz is typically around 10g of fat, except for farmed which is slightly higher (12-15g)... but I prefer wild.fish and nuts may be high in fat but it is a good fat that helps increase the good colesterol. fats are not equal--look to increasse monounsaturated fats over saturated fats
in what world are fish high in fat??
You can get some high fat content in salmon, like around 20 grams in a 5 ounce serving. I consider that a good thing.
The general rule of thumb is the colder water the fish lives in, the higher the fat content. Even high-fat content fish such as herring, mackerel, sardines, etc., aren't all that high-fat, depending on your definition of "high fat". The highest fat fish we consume is normally about 50% fat by caloric content, depending on the fish.
On the other hand, take a ribeye steak, even trimmed of fat, and you're still eating about 70% fat by caloric content.
I don't eat salmon that is funky. I'm on the west coast, and we get a lot of options in wild salmon. Coho is lower in fat. Chinook is higher, and more delicious.
LOL I did not mean to start a fat in fish discussion. My focus was originally on nuts and howhe fat in nuts is a good fat. Throwing fish in there was an afterthought. That said, I am from Michigan where cold water salmon isthe most common fresh fish.0
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