I am under eating by at least 1000 cals a day?
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WOW, the complete rudeness of some of you people honestly shocks me.
I said that I didn't see a problem with working out for 2 hours. Then I get, "oh, then why ask for advice?" BECAUSE, I'M NOT LOSING WEIGHT. I need help with my weight loss so thats why I posted this thread to begin with. I know see that clearly, I am over training myself and so I will not be doing so much cardio, as I can not eat back those calories.
To the person who clearly is in denial about milk, how about you punch into google, "the horrors of dairy milk" and then you can see for yourself what is happening to the cows and our milk. I have nothing against coconut or almond milk, so that little joke of yours was just ridiculous. I do eat meat as well but I will not eat meat that is slaughtered and not treated with dignity. Halal or kosher meat is the best way to go.
To conclude, I will NEVER be asking advice on this ridiculous forum ever again and instead I will do my own research. Just because you have lost weight does not give you the right to be rude to people who are trying to lose weight. You were once in our shoes.
Thank you to the people who actually offered some good advice and were not rude or attacking.0 -
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WOW, the complete rudeness of some of you people honestly shocks me.
I said that I didn't see a problem with working out for 2 hours. Then I get, "oh, then why ask for advice?" BECAUSE, I'M NOT LOSING WEIGHT. I need help with my weight loss so thats why I posted this thread to begin with. I know see that clearly, I am over training myself and so I will not be doing so much cardio, as I can not eat back those calories.
To the person who clearly is in denial about milk, how about you punch into google, "the horrors of dairy milk" and then you can see for yourself what is happening to the cows and our milk. I have nothing against coconut or almond milk, so that little joke of yours was just ridiculous. I do eat meat as well but I will not eat meat that is slaughtered and not treated with dignity. Halal or kosher meat is the best way to go.
To conclude, I will NEVER be asking advice on this ridiculous forum ever again and instead I will do my own research. Just because you have lost weight does not give you the right to be rude to people who are trying to lose weight. You were once in our shoes.
Thank you to the people who actually offered some good advice and were not rude or attacking.0 -
I'm sorry but you asked for advice then didn't like that very one said you need to eat more to reach your net goal. You might actually loose weight if you followed the good advice people gave you. Your not being healthy, however good luck with your own thing, hope it works out but can't see that happening as one way or another its going to stall without the fuel your body needs0
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Well... bye.To conclude, I will NEVER be asking advice on this ridiculous forum ever again and instead I will do my own research. Just because you have lost weight does not give you the right to be rude to people who are trying to lose weight. You were once in our shoes.
Thank you to the people who actually offered some good advice and were not rude or attacking.
Sorry you didn't grasp the fact that those of us who have lost a lot of weight have given you advice that you clearly don't want. It's okay, we'll miss you. Have fun!
XOXO.0 -
AMEN to Muffintop.Wow. People seem really cranky on here :ohwell:
I got fat by eating waaayyy too much crap. I love candy, doughnuts, pastries, chocolate, ice cream, etc.
I have recently started eating mostly raw and cooked veggies, 4 fruits per day, beans, and whole grains. I eat meat sometimes and have pretty much cut out dairy. I do drink almond milk though.
A couple of days ago I ate a ton of veggies, salads, fruits, green smoothie, and some beans. I think I logged around 1000 calories that day. I was pretty shocked. It seemed to low. However, I don't exercise for 2 hours a day
I was a little concerned but the way I see it, I am getting all the nutrients I need and I wasn't hungry. If I was, I ate something.
Meh....cranky...I only see one cranky poster on here and I think it's the one you are supporting....You won't find huge support for people coming on bleating about not being able to eat enough to fill their calorie requirements, because, well.....it's just implausible when that same person is on here to lose weight.0 -
okay all of u diss n dont believe so what ever aint arguing n honey they arnt even prooven if they work pat ur self cuz ur falling into the diet industry bs but if u wanna be stupid be my guest n do what ur gonna do ur money ur loss eat real raspberry or grow a dam tree or shrub w/e heres advice chile melts fat well helps so dont think to hard on it
huh?:huh:0 -
It sounds like you think you have all the answers, OP.0
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Ppl peanut butter n nuts r not bad fat their a good fat n filling im loosing weight n eat that n some d
ays i spoil my self to cheese fries with ranch n that's a bad fat
The mind, it boggles.0 -
I don't get the scooby calculator - it gives a BMR at 1524 and then a 1463 calorie per day to lose at 20% less TDEE which we all know you must eat AT BMR at the minimum or you go into starvation mode - does not make sense to me????0
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Ppl peanut butter n nuts r not bad fat their a good fat n filling im loosing weight n eat that n some d
ays i spoil my self to cheese fries with ranch n that's a bad fat
:huh: I had to read that 4 times....0 -
I don't get the scooby calculator - it gives a BMR at 1524 and then a 1463 calorie per day to lose at 20% less TDEE which we all know you must eat AT BMR at the minimum or you go into starvation mode - does not make sense to me????
Then a 20% deficit would be too much for you. Try 10-15%0 -
OP gets advice. OP doesn't agree/understand advice. OP strops off. BBBBLLLEEEUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH.:noway: :noway: :yawn:0
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You don't go into starvation mode overnight. If you eat under 1200 calories here and there it's fine. Personally I would still be hungry, but I have eaten 1000 calories before and I didn't gain 10lbs the next day from "starvation mode".
I'm also calling bs on the scooby site. I am pretty sure my bmr is nowhere near what it says which is 1500. I also gain weight at the 1900 calories a day it said I should be eating to lose weight. I guess it's not for everyone. Some of us have to eat at our bmr with working out to see any results. I have seriously eaten under 1900 calories for weeks. I have lost a whooping pound and half and that wasnt' until I lower my calories to 1400 most days (not eating them back) but I have not gone over 1900 since like easter day.0 -
Well... bye.To conclude, I will NEVER be asking advice on this ridiculous forum ever again and instead I will do my own research. Just because you have lost weight does not give you the right to be rude to people who are trying to lose weight. You were once in our shoes.
Thank you to the people who actually offered some good advice and were not rude or attacking.
Sorry you didn't grasp the fact that those of us who have lost a lot of weight have given you advice that you clearly don't want. It's okay, we'll miss you. Have fun!
XOXO.
There's the temper tantrum I expected to see! It didn't take nearly as many pages this time, did it?0 -
this
You should be going on here http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
And figuring out how much you should be eating.0 -
How do you feel? Do you have the energy to get through the day? Are you getting stronger ie measurably by lifting more wieght, more reps, less rest? If you are gaining strength losing inches/pounds feel good why change your routine. Just an idea for your consideration.0
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I seldom post, but am never rude forum, email, face to face etc0
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so, cut 30-60 minutes from your workout! You don't need that much! That will give you more time to eat. And once you start eating a little bit more every day, you'll be able to. You are slowing your weight loss. Don't compare to anorexics, that is already self-talk that is damaging you view of HEALTHY weight loss. You lose slower and by eating more- it STAYS off. When anorexics or people who starve themselves for a prolonged amount of time and then start eating again, they put weight on FAST. And if you go at it too hard, you'll burn yourself out. A two hour workout is great maybe once or twice a week if you HAVE to.0
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OP gets advice. OP doesn't agree/understand advice. OP strops off. BBBBLLLEEEUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH.:noway: :noway: :yawn:
It's a lot like training a kitten, isn't it?
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Yeah, this is really confusing for me as well now. I also eat filling meals that are actually healthy, I don't eat unhealthy. I physically cannot eat like 2500 calories a day. Not possible.
not to be rude or anything, but no one got to needing to lose weight because they could not eat enough...
like others have said, calculate your tdee and go from there. if you work out 2 hours a day, then you def need higher calories. if you are not eating enough, then your body will become stubborn and hold on to whatever is there and make weightloss slow down.
also, if it has only been 2 weeks it can take more time to actually see the scale move. you said yourself you have lost inches, and sometimes that is better to go by.
as far as anorexics, yes there may not be any weight gain because there is severe restriction of food. but as soon as more food is eaten, even if it is going from 800 calories a day to 1000 or 1100 a day which is still under eating, there will be weight gain since the body is still trying to hold onto everything it can.
theres a group on here that is called eat more to lose weight or somthing of the sorts, which gives good information on how eating more is actually better to help with weightloss.0 -
Yeah, this is really confusing for me as well now. I also eat filling meals that are actually healthy, I don't eat unhealthy. I physically cannot eat like 2500 calories a day. Not possible.
Add a "whey isolate" (or possibly whey protein if you can handle the lactose). This would be nice after your workouts, help you rev up your metabolism and also make sure you are getting all the protein you need. If you don't get enough protein (especially the essential amino acids), your body will break down your muscles.0 -
OP gets advice. OP doesn't agree/understand advice. OP strops off. BBBBLLLEEEUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH.:noway: :noway: :yawn:
It's a lot like training a kitten, isn't it?
Moral of your gif. Don't put your hand near an angry *****....0 -
People who can't eat or hate food - let's call them the "600-calorie people" often are unaware of the cause themselves. Not only that, they're also often in denial. Truth or honesty becomes a threat. They're in some sort of starvation mode: starving for attention and confirmation.
The real question: "Am I lovely?" has not been satisfactorily answered in their past. Well, I don't want to play Dr. Freud, but it's not a guess or a theory… It's a pattern.
Suggestions like: "Eat more healthy fats" or "Exercise less" or "You're destroying your metabolism" never work because they trigger a mind-protective defense mechanism. They are replied with slogans like: "You're not listening to my real problem!" or "Why are you so hostile?" or in this case: "I won't eat meat. Don't you know what they're doing to our cows?!"
The problem is further preferably exposed on public forums because there is a full house of folk equally wandering in the dark, proclaiming: "Forget the Roadmap!" and "You're doing fine!" and seemingly offer 'support' and 'comfort'. But in fact they're just prolonging blindness and making it more difficult to get through.
For the 600-calorie people who feel they don't lose (fast) enough while they are killing themselves with cardio/HIIT and nothing else seems to work, here's a little problem assistant:
1. Look in the mirror. Was this helpful? Yes/No
2. Eat more. Was this helpful? Yes/No
3. Seek professional help. Was this helpful? Yes/No
4. Good luck.
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I think this needs to be attached to the MFP logo lolYeah, this is really confusing for me as well now. I also eat filling meals that are actually healthy, I don't eat unhealthy. I physically cannot eat like 2500 calories a day. Not possible.
not to be rude or anything, but no one got to needing to lose weight because they could not eat enough...
I understand that mindset because I used to be there. It's easy to eat 2,500 calories when you aren't being conscious. But when you are being selective and making the right food choices (which tend to be lower calorie), it's hard to keep adding stuff when what you are already eating fills you up. I'm supposed to be eating about 1,800 calories and I have to push myself to get to 1,600. Sure I could if I snacked on my low-fat ice-cream but the sugar makes me feel guilty.0 -
Then you're doing it wrong. Seriously.
Sure you can.Yeah, this is really confusing for me as well now. I also eat filling meals that are actually healthy, I don't eat unhealthy. I physically cannot eat like 2500 calories a day. Not possible.
Don't buy "diet / low-fat" versions of stuff. Eat cheese, peanut butter, milk... You'll be shocked.
That is BS if I ever saw it.
I don't eat "Low fat" etc foods as I believe they contain a high amount of unhealthy chemicals. I eat alot of homemade soups, smoothies, breads, PB, cheese etc and I STILL can not get to 1400-1500 some days. Its only if I eat crap food I can reach my calorie goals (And even then it is my calorie goal with out exercise so about 1750 calories) But one of my smooties are about 400 calories but can keep me full for 4-5 hours. One of my soups is only 180-230 (Depending on how much I have) and keeps me full for 3-4 hours.
I had half a sliced cucumber for morning tea the other day, and it kept me full for 2 hours, when I put it into the system it was a whole 8 calories.
So no, some of us LITERALLY can not get to that much
So why eat something that is sooooooo filling for only 8 cals? A tablespoon of peanut butter is about 100!
Because I ENJOY eating it! And I didn't know at the time thats all it was.
And like I said I do eat things like PB etc,
I went back on my records and found a day which was a bad day for me, eating things like ice cream, cheese cake, roast dinner, chips etc, and it only was 1600 calories!
One of my days was all bran, smoothie, PB toast, 2 pears, yoghurt a huge mixture of veges, some pork lions, plus cranberry juice and it was only 1300 calories. And I remember I was STUFFED! There was no way I could eat another mouthful! But I was trying so hard to get at least over 1200 I just ate way too much
just curious if you measure/weigh your food. i was suprised how i thought i was eating a serving when it was actually more once i got a food scale. i think a lot of people mis gauge how much they are eating unless they acurately measure/weigh iit.0 -
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I'm not pushing through these work outs. Its not that hard. I have nothing else to do during the day so I go to the gym. 1 hour on the machines and 1 hour swimming, I don't see the problem
Not to be offensive but if you don't have anything else to do during the day, go eat.0 -
Calories are important, but not as much as what comes with them... I know there are some of you out there who would refute this statement; I'd challenge anyone who can come up with a sound argument (citing actual evidence) to quote this post and prove me wrong.
In my opinion, I focus more on meeting my nutrient goals for the day without eating an obscene amount of calories. I am a ski instructor in Colorado, I am very active, and often times lunch is a hard meal for me too since I cant carry my lunch with me and the stuff we feed the kids is laughable in the nutrition department. I carry unsalted almonds because i know they can stave hunger in responsible amounts. I also try to make lunch a two-part meal (splitting the calories between the pitiful choices I can actually eat at the salad bar in the cafeteria, and a hearty snack when I get home around 4 o'clock).
When it comes to calories, MFP will tell you you aren't eating enough if you don't consume at least 1200 calories a day. I agree with this; calories are energy and you need energy from food every day to promote a faster metabolism and to keep your body from storing fat. My goal is to eat a minimum of 1400 REAL calories a day, from REAL foods that are of high nutrient density, anti-angiogenic, and take awhile to digest, as opposed to empty B.S. calories that you don't need and your metabolism rips right through. Eating the right foods to reach your nutritional goals is most important. If you are eating whole, healthy foods, its actually somewhat challenging to go over 1700-1800 calories a day... you're simply not hungry enough!
Definitely do what some people on this forum have suggested and go to another source to determine what is nutritionally appropriate for you... I find that MFP goes way overboard on sugar, fat, and calorie totals when I log my activity for the day, and I also don't entirely agree with the calorie total that it tells me. For instance, when I log 240 minutes of "Skiing, Downhill, Moderate Effort" It tells me that I can eat an extra 2200 calories that day... I highly doubt that, especially since half of that time (or more) is riding chairlifts!
If you are very active like I am, yes... you do need more calories, fats, and proteins than a person who leads a sedentary lifestyle. That being said, you shouldn't try to go overboard on your calorie intake, especially if its at night with dinner, well after exercising. Remember that a calorie is a measure of energy, and if you don't use energy, your body will store it as fat for later use.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
This was what I was trying to say, but didn't know how
To everyone else. No I didn't get fat on only eating 1500 calories a day. I got fat on eating too many high calorie, high fat, high sugar food that were loaded with chemicals that left me HUNGRY all day, PLUS I didn't do any exercise.
I also use to eat when I wasn't hungry and binge eat. THAT IS HOW I GOT FAT.
I have LEARNT to only eat when I am hungry, and to eat healthy foods. Not EVERYTHING has to be covered with fat etc, nor does it have to be high in calories to be fulling.
And you all presume that everyone can eat anything. How do you know that we can all have nuts, oils etc? I myself can't have bananas, corn, or alot of dairy or wheat products as of health problems that come with them, and having alot of fats, no matter how good they are, can make me feel physically sick. I can eat about half a handful of nuts before I feel like vomiting, and if that doesn't happen I end up with thick mucus in my throat.
I ENJOY EATING ALOT OF VEGES, and if that is so wrong, then hell! I am doing it all wrong
That is not saying though I do not eat the occasional treat. I even have loads of dark chocolate in my freezer for when I have sugar cravings, so I don't reach for that caramel slice. I still eat chips every so often, and I still go to the cafe, but now I balance that out by eating correctly through the rest of the week.
And how do you think vegans do it? They don't have alot of stuff that you are all suggesting yet they survive.
Its not about how many calories you eat, its about WHAT YOU ARE EATING.
I eat to fuel my body, not to keep up with my calorie intake
well then maybe you should have included this in the begining to let people know what you have to work with, instead of chiming in halfway to defend yourself after receving adivce from people who have had success with weightloss, when YOU asked for it in the first place.0 -
I'm not pushing through these work outs. Its not that hard. I have nothing else to do during the day so I go to the gym. 1 hour on the machines and 1 hour swimming, I don't see the problem
Not to be offensive but if you don't have anything else to do during the day, go eat.
i think that's how she got here in the first place.
i always get baffled when people go to the forums to ask for advice then get all pissy about it. do your own research then instead of asking us0
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