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  • missprincessgina
    missprincessgina Posts: 446 Member
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    I'm a daily drinker and I've managed to maintain a size 6 for 15 years.
    You just have to workout more or eat less. Just work it into your lifestyle.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    no i'm not drinking a bottle of wine every night! just occasionally in the evenings, say once or twice a week, i'll ruin all my days work by wasting it on the empty calories of a bottle of wine.

    So, how much are you actually drinking?
    I would still say a bottle "say once or twice a week" is a concern.
    A glass once or twice a week is more reasonable.
    The bigger concern to me is not being able to give it up more than empty calories.
    4-5 glasses of wine once or twice a week. I'd say the number isn't a concern, per se. It could be. It could be that it's not. I won't attempt to analyze or diagnose a stranger on the internet.
    But, yeah, that's an extra 500-600 calories each time...
  • 257_Lag
    257_Lag Posts: 1,249 Member
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    Meh, if you like it that much, just work it into your day. I rarely drink less than 500 calories of alcohol a day, every day. I make up for it with exercise. So I eat my normal amount of calories per day, then my exercise takes care of the alcohol, more or less.

    Hear Hear! I am not a model weight loss specialist (but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night)
  • aepdx
    aepdx Posts: 218 Member
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    Once I cut out alcohol, I lost 10 pounds. Just sayin'
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
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    "... it's the emotional attachment that people place to alcohol that is the problem..."



    ^^^^THIS^^^^^ Same goes for food. If there is any food that you can't give up for better health, then you probably shouldn't be eating it at all. It's too important to you if it is more important than your health. That's called an addiction. I've worked with many addicts in the past. Addictions are subtle and progressive. One day an addict wakes up and realizes that his/her life revolves around a substance. It is at that point that help is sought.
  • dfonte
    dfonte Posts: 263 Member
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    If you finish the bottle in less than 10 minutes you don't have to count it because your body doesn't absorb any of the calories.
  • fishsticks913
    fishsticks913 Posts: 123 Member
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    I think in moderation everything is fine.... YOU know your body and what you can handle.
    I on the other hand, like to hang out and have adult beverages.... but then have the day after regret and hate it when I log and see the calories....
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    "... I would rather have my wine than eat..."

    Every "problem drinker" (read alcoholic) I ever knew would probably have agreed with this statement. When one is on a calorie-restricted diet, one really cannot afford to throw away 500 calories on wine, beer, etc.

    Why not? That's only 20% of my typical daily intake, for example. It's worked fine for me, every day for the last two years.
  • airen123
    airen123 Posts: 149
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    I'm proof that you're fine drinking your alcohol calories as long as you're working out for them. I've gone down from 154 to 135 in the last few years. 10 lbs to go, and I drink quite a lot of red wine...daily.
    The French and Italians do, and they look amazing.
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
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    I do indulge in beer or wine a couple times a week most weeks, and I'm in a healthy weight range, but still struggling to gain more muscle and loose some flub...I'm sure the alcohol doesn't HELP, but it is definitely possible to make progress and still keep those little indulgences.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    i opt for liquor w diet soda or brut champagne (less calories and waaaaaaay less carbs than any kind of wine).

    try having just a glass of wine w dinner every now and then and see if that satiates your wine loving self :)
    Wine doesn't have a lot of carbs. :noway:
    Her "whole bottle" of wine probably has 20-25 grams of carbs.
  • catbit
    catbit Posts: 28
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    I believe you simply need to count it in to your calories, exercise more to compensate and ENJOY it!! You should not deprive yourself of things you enjoy!! I enjoy beer and I work extra and eat less to compensate. Life is too short to not enjoy it and everything we love!!
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    I believe you simply need to count it in to your calories, exercise more to compensate and ENJOY it!! You should not deprive yourself of things you enjoy!! I enjoy beer and I work extra and eat less to compensate. Life is too short to not enjoy it and everything we love!!
    I agree. I see this quoted on here regularly...for FOOD. I tend to eat very clean, but I do enjoy wine... several glasses, several times a week.
    I build it in. If this is a lifestyle, I intend to enjoy it. And have been. (I've been at/near maintenance for 10+ years)
  • LillyBoots
    LillyBoots Posts: 114 Member
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    I've been really struggling with my weight loss regime. I don't mind working out doing 45 minutes of Zumba every day, and I don't mind eating 1000 calories a day munching on fish and vegetables. I've never had a problem with doughnuts or pizza, my trouble is a nice bottle of wine at night. Does anyone else have this problem?

    I feel like I'd be doing so much better and losing so much more weight if it weren't for the pointless 500 calories I consume when I cave in and can't resist a bottle of wine! Am I alone here or does anyone else struggle with this?

    To be honest I gave up regular drinking as part of my weight loss plan mainly because the booze is free while I work and I drank it more for that reason than another. Last night I blew out my calories on 4 glasses of Veuve champagne though it was a special occasiond so what the hey!

    I'd try drinking spritzers if you are drinking white so you drink half the amount of alcohol but the same volume and take up meditation for relaxation. Alcohol is a depessant so it is probably making you feel worse in the long run, not to mention te daily hangovers.

    Also up your exercise so that you can drink 500 calories in alchol and not have it blow out your days good work.
  • woodsy0912
    woodsy0912 Posts: 323
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    I budget a bottle of wine once a week. It is my Saturday night fun time with friends. Has not hindered me in the least.

    It is about 600 calories for the bottle and I just burn it up that day at the gym.
  • ripemango
    ripemango Posts: 534 Member
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    note that i am comparing the carbs in wine to that of brut champagne. my statement is correct.
    i opt for liquor w diet soda or brut champagne (less calories and waaaaaaay less carbs than any kind of wine).

    try having just a glass of wine w dinner every now and then and see if that satiates your wine loving self :)
    Wine doesn't have a lot of carbs. :noway:
    Her "whole bottle" of wine probably has 20-25 grams of carbs.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    note that i am comparing the carbs in wine to that of brut champagne. my statement is correct.
    i opt for liquor w diet soda or brut champagne (less calories and waaaaaaay less carbs than any kind of wine).

    try having just a glass of wine w dinner every now and then and see if that satiates your wine loving self :)
    Wine doesn't have a lot of carbs. :noway:
    Her "whole bottle" of wine probably has 20-25 grams of carbs.
    Yep. the difference between, what 1gram and 4grams? Yep. your post was correct.
  • mistimn
    mistimn Posts: 58 Member
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    susank66 - you seem to be concerned a lot. it concerns me.

    a bottle of wine every now and then is not cause for concern. as another poster pointed out, it's like 4 or 5 beers. i'm only talking about the empty calories being an issue.

    but if you're really concerned about it, go cry to a therapist. see if he can remove the stick from your backside while he's at it.

    everyone else, thanks for your helpful posts :)

    I just love that you said that! Good for you, I drink wine a few nights a week not because I need it but because I like it :) stuffy folks good grief.
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
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    "... it's the emotional attachment that people place to alcohol that is the problem..."



    ^^^^THIS^^^^^ Same goes for food. If there is any food that you can't give up for better health, then you probably shouldn't be eating it at all. It's too important to you if it is more important than your health. That's called an addiction. I've worked with many addicts in the past. Addictions are subtle and progressive. One day an addict wakes up and realizes that his/her life revolves around a substance. It is at that point that help is sought.

    I think this might be a bit much. Are you implying that eating bad foods or drinking in moderation is actually an addiction? If someone ate potato chips once in awhile instead of giving them up completely then they are addicted? I don't think that is the definition of addiction at all.

    If I am reading that wrong - totally sorry for misunderstanding.

    One thing that should be considered though - moderate drinking may in fact be healthier than complete abstinence:

    From article I posted earlier (http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html)

    The benefits of moderate drinking are:

    Improves insulin sensitivity
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12393073

    Potentially improves trigyceride concentrations
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12020337

    Can actually help Glycemic control (even on peopel with type 2 diabities)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20627495

    Etc... If you read the original article I posted, it links to even more studies that show a wide variety of the benefits of moderate drinking.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
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    "... it's the emotional attachment that people place to alcohol that is the problem..."



    ^^^^THIS^^^^^ Same goes for food. If there is any food that you can't give up for better health, then you probably shouldn't be eating it at all. It's too important to you if it is more important than your health. That's called an addiction. I've worked with many addicts in the past. Addictions are subtle and progressive. One day an addict wakes up and realizes that his/her life revolves around a substance. It is at that point that help is sought.

    I think this might be a bit much. Are you implying that eating bad foods or drinking in moderation is actually an addiction? If someone ate potato chips once in awhile instead of giving them up completely then they are addicted? I don't think that is the definition of addiction at all.

    If I am reading that wrong - totally sorry for misunderstanding.

    One thing that should be considered though - moderate drinking may in fact be healthier than complete abstinence:

    From article I posted earlier (http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html)

    The benefits of moderate drinking are:

    Improves insulin sensitivity
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12393073

    Potentially improves trigyceride concentrations
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12020337

    Can actually help Glycemic control (even on peopel with type 2 diabities)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20627495

    Etc... If you read the original article I posted, it links to even more studies that show a wide variety of the benefits of moderate drinking.

    I think the key word is "moderate". If it is truly moderate, I have no problem with it. But, I know several people who claim to be "moderate" drinkers and that they "could give it up in a minute". When you talk to their spouses and children, it is a different story. They worriedly report that the quantity that gave their loved one "a mellow buzz" a few years ago, has been added to and is more frequent, and now there are more signs of impairment, as their loved one continues to drink "moderately". Denial is a very bring problem for addicts, at the beginning stages of their addiction. If someone drinks to get drunk, that is not moderate. If someone sits down and eats an entire package of Oreos before he/she gets up again, (or even over the course of a day) that is not moderation. Not judging here--just warning others to please avoid kidding themselves. To make certain that they really are moderate in their pursuit of pleasure. I have seen too many lives destroyed, or otherwise impaired, by habits that are anything but moderate. :heart: and peace.

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