The Master Cleanse
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Hi,
I did this cleanse about 6 years ago and lasted 15 days. Once I began to eat regular food again, I gained 40 pounds (gradually) that I am still trying to get rid of, 6 YEARS LATER. the salt water flushes are bad (according to my physician)and it throughs your metabolism completely off. I wish I never did it.
Good luck if you choose to do it
Thank you for your honest and kind opinion.0 -
I do this cleanse 4 times a year with the change of seasons. IT is benficial in keeping toxins out of my body and recharging my system. I do not use it as a weight loss aid, as you gain it back as soon as you start eating again. I do the fasting for 5-10 days each time. PM if you want to swap stories.0
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Let me add something to my last post....
I don't believe in this pepper and lemonade cleanse but I do think that you could cleanse with lots of fiber and maybe do a 2 day fast or something like that but to stay on the lemonade cleanse for an extended period of time is not a good idea.
Maybe large organic salads with no dairy or dressing with black beans, fiber, fiber, fiber. You know what I mean. Then 2 days fasting with the lemonade mix.0 -
Yes, I've done it twice, 10 days each time. I cannot recommend it. I had symptoms of heart irregularity near the end each time and ignored it. Turns out this "cleanse" can severely disrupt your electrolyte balance. People have died. I feel lucky that I didn't.0
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I did a version of it - other than almost crapping my pants a couple of times (good times!) and the fear of being more than a short sprint away from a bathroom, nothing "good" came from it. I literally crapped that money away.... but hey! Do what you want!0
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here's an example that most women can especially appreciate but never think about in terms of "detoxing" it's yeast. It affects all of us but especially women, so when we eat things with good, live active cultures, we are detoxing from some of the bad bacteria in the gut.
Doesn't this make sense?
No it does not make sense. A yeast infection is caused by a pH imbalance. When the acidity level drops, the yeast can begin to reproduce, etc etc, causing said infection. Alkaline/acid balance in the body is what controls this, not cleansing. Some live cultures (acidophilus, for example) can help in this regard. "Cleansing" wil not stop you from developing a yeast infection.0 -
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE...
For those of you that say that it's dangerous and that we don't need to detox, you just don't understand a few things.
We do need to detox. Different detoxes are made for different reasons....
here's an example that most women can especially appreciate but never think about in terms of "detoxing" it's yeast. It affects all of us but especially women, so when we eat things with good, live active cultures, we are detoxing from some of the bad bacteria in the gut. Doesn't this make sense?
The liver filters out most drugs like asprin, advil, alcohol, other prescriptions and so on so when the liver is taxed it could stand a detox as well and I can tell you that the body is not just made to cleanse itself or no woman in the world would ever ever ever suffer from a yeast infection now would she?
Now you have the kidneys, the lower gut, the colon. You have bacteria, viruses, fungus, and parasites. Parasites are a big one if you're a raw food vegan like a used to be.
The body doesn't just take care of itself or there would be no need for doctors... ever. We have to keep a healthy balance in our systems. Eating crap or "The Standard American Diet" (SAD Diet) can surely tax the body.
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Wow. That actually sounds very close to being science...
...but it's not.
1. The vast majority of people have no issue with yeast. If they do then that is an issue to speak to your doctor about as there is little evidence that diet has any effect (if you know otherwise, please do post up the evidence - peer reviewed, of course). 99.9999999% of people have none of this "bad bacteria' in their gut.
2. Yeast infections do happen but going on a "cleanse" will make not one iota of a difference. Again, got yeast? Get medication.
3. Parasites? Really? Evidence please! Yes, some people do have parasites, but very few in the Western world thanks to clean water and good healthcare. Worried you have a parasite - see your doctor. On the whole parasites are yet another myth put out by people trying to sell us colon cleanses (just because you saw someone on TV in House harbouring a parasite which was making them ill does not mean we are all infested).
As for the Master Cleanse... OP, have a search of the forums for previous posts and you will find a host of information giving both sides of the story (mainly the one with scientific backing - no need to "cleanse". The body does a good job of it and the Master Cleanse does no such thing).
1. A vast majority of people actually DO have problems with yeast but don't know it and often blame the problems on something else, doing weeks, months, years of using other medications with never finding the cure or treatment. Yeast can cause many many more problems than those that we normally think of and they can be anywhere on the body even in the brain. I can't make this **** up, it's proven.
2. Yes a cleanse can make a difference if the yeast is in the right place... The gut, if it's lower in the gut then good luck, yogurt won't survive that far.
3. Parasites? Yes, it happens... Sushi, under cooked meats of any kind, raw veggies not washed as well as we thought, walking barefoot, swimming in fresh water, IT HAPPENS. Wake up.0 -
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE...
For those of you that say that it's dangerous and that we don't need to detox, you just don't understand a few things.
We do need to detox. Different detoxes are made for different reasons....
here's an example that most women can especially appreciate but never think about in terms of "detoxing" it's yeast. It affects all of us but especially women, so when we eat things with good, live active cultures, we are detoxing from some of the bad bacteria in the gut. Doesn't this make sense?
The liver filters out most drugs like asprin, advil, alcohol, other prescriptions and so on so when the liver is taxed it could stand a detox as well and I can tell you that the body is not just made to cleanse itself or no woman in the world would ever ever ever suffer from a yeast infection now would she?
Now you have the kidneys, the lower gut, the colon. You have bacteria, viruses, fungus, and parasites. Parasites are a big one if you're a raw food vegan like a used to be.
The body doesn't just take care of itself or there would be no need for doctors... ever. We have to keep a healthy balance in our systems. Eating crap or "The Standard American Diet" (SAD Diet) can surely tax the body.
You are one of the most dangerous people on this site. Far too much use of Google.0 -
You're welcome everyone. I'm glad I could be of assistance for your overly sarcastic remarks which clearly stems from pent up frustration or lack of a sexual partner. (or just low self-esteem) Whichever one I don't care. I know........ life can be so hard on us. Let's jump online and verbally attack someone for sport because I'm too chicken S**t to do it to someones face. It's much easier making fun of someone online than in person.
This entire thread was the highlight of my day. From the bottom of my heart or colon...THANK YOU.......not only for being absolutely ridiculous, but for the entertainment. Especially those of you that posted visuals. The visuals were AWESOME. (clapping hands)
Sincerely,
I can be a douche bag too!0 -
P.S. - yes I read the book. Yes, I did the lemonade cleanse exactly as instructed. Exactly. The book says your electrolytes will be balanced during this cleanse. The book is wrong for at least some of us.0
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PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE...
For those of you that say that it's dangerous and that we don't need to detox, you just don't understand a few things.
We do need to detox. Different detoxes are made for different reasons....
here's an example that most women can especially appreciate but never think about in terms of "detoxing" it's yeast. It affects all of us but especially women, so when we eat things with good, live active cultures, we are detoxing from some of the bad bacteria in the gut. Doesn't this make sense?
The liver filters out most drugs like asprin, advil, alcohol, other prescriptions and so on so when the liver is taxed it could stand a detox as well and I can tell you that the body is not just made to cleanse itself or no woman in the world would ever ever ever suffer from a yeast infection now would she?
Now you have the kidneys, the lower gut, the colon. You have bacteria, viruses, fungus, and parasites. Parasites are a big one if you're a raw food vegan like a used to be.
The body doesn't just take care of itself or there would be no need for doctors... ever. We have to keep a healthy balance in our systems. Eating crap or "The Standard American Diet" (SAD Diet) can surely tax the body.
:noway:
Wow. That actually sounds very close to being science...
...but it's not.
1. The vast majority of people have no issue with yeast. If they do then that is an issue to speak to your doctor about as there is little evidence that diet has any effect (if you know otherwise, please do post up the evidence - peer reviewed, of course). 99.9999999% of people have none of this "bad bacteria' in their gut.
2. Yeast infections do happen but going on a "cleanse" will make not one iota of a difference. Again, got yeast? Get medication.
3. Parasites? Really? Evidence please! Yes, some people do have parasites, but very few in the Western world thanks to clean water and good healthcare. Worried you have a parasite - see your doctor. On the whole parasites are yet another myth put out by people trying to sell us colon cleanses (just because you saw someone on TV in House harbouring a parasite which was making them ill does not mean we are all infested).
As for the Master Cleanse... OP, have a search of the forums for previous posts and you will find a host of information giving both sides of the story (mainly the one with scientific backing - no need to "cleanse". The body does a good job of it and the Master Cleanse does no such thing).
1. A vast majority of people actually DO have problems with yeast but don't know it and often blame the problems on something else, doing weeks, months, years of using other medications with never finding the cure or treatment. Yeast can cause many many more problems than those that we normally think of and they can be anywhere on the body even in the brain. I can't make this **** up, it's proven.
2. Yes a cleanse can make a difference if the yeast is in the right place... The gut, if it's lower in the gut then good luck, yogurt won't survive that far.
3. Parasites? Yes, it happens... Sushi, under cooked meats of any kind, raw veggies not washed as well as we thought, walking barefoot, swimming in fresh water, IT HAPPENS. Wake up.
Hmmm...I guess she got both parasites and yeast...
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stems from pent up frustration or lack of a sexual partner.
Everyone should do a cleanse!
Honestly, no one attacked you, no one made fun of you.
The sarcasm, oh yeah, that was all over the place! But that is aimed at the whole concept of cleansing, not at you.0 -
Wow. This site is a gold mine for studying the Dunning-Kruger effect.0
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I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?0 -
That only makes it worse that you would be supporting cleanses.I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?0 -
I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?
Saying a prayer to be dead of old age before you are practicing.0 -
I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?
As a medical student, why aren't you citing sources for your information? I imagine that given your background you would have studies of some sort for reference.0 -
You're welcome everyone. I'm glad I could be of assistance for your overly sarcastic remarks which clearly stems from pent up frustration or lack of a sexual partner. (or just low self-esteem) Whichever one I don't care. I know........ life can be so hard on us. Let's jump online and verbally attack someone for sport because I'm too chicken S**t to do it to someones face. It's much easier making fun of someone online than in person.
This entire thread was the highlight of my day. From the bottom of my heart or colon...THANK YOU.......not only for being absolutely ridiculous, but for the entertainment. Especially those of you that posted visuals. The visuals were AWESOME. (clapping hands)
Sincerely,
I can be a douche bag too!
Dear I can be a douche bag too,
If you could please provide me with your skype address, or facetime number, or yahoo messenger id, or tinychat link, or google+ id, or one of the millions of ways for me to tell you to your face that a cleanse is nothing more than a marketing ploy to feed off the desire for people to lose weight. There is zero true science behind it, and plenty of science against it.
It's all about making money to these people.If you want to reduce these side effects to the bare minimum my Master Cleanse Book will show you ways to reduce or eliminate the most common side effects.
Someone not vested in making money in The Master Cleanse and with a degree would say:Dietitian Melinda Johnson, RD, doesn't see anything positive about this diet plan.
There is no scientific evidence that you need anything like this or any other detox program to cleanse your body or help you lose weight," she says.
She suggests staying away from smoking if you want to avoid toxins. Otherwise, trust your liver to do its job.
Experts agree that such unbalanced plans are not only ineffective, but are also potentially dangerous, depending on how long you stay on them. Fasting can rob your intestines of healthy bacteria that aid digestion and boost immunity.
Do what you want, but if you're going to post in a public forum expect to get the responses you do, especially since this topic comes up once or twice or more times every single week. Do just a little bit of research and a quick forum search and you would have known what to expect...but then again, I'm talking to someone who fell for The Master Cleanse and may be asking a bit too much.
Sincerely,
Me.0 -
This is greatness. If I can annoy and irritate people this much on here, then maybe I should post more often. Can't Wait!0
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This is greatness. If I can annoy and irritate people this much on here, then maybe I should post more often. Can't Wait!
Everyone has a talent.
Everyone needs a hobby.
Congratulations on finding your place in out little world.0 -
I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?
As a medical student, why aren't you citing sources for your information? I imagine that given your background you would have studies of some sort for reference.
^^Absolutely.
See, we've had these "discussions" a lot of times before on these forums.
There is no actual PROOF that the Master Cleanse is effective in ridding the body of toxins, yeast, parasites, bloat, yadda yadda.
This has been fully hashed out multiple times here with actual medical researchers, doctors and such. Give us some toxins that are cleared out. Give us some actual scientific reports that show any benefit whatsoever in the Master (or any other) Cleanse.0 -
I didn't get either, I am a medical student
and why are some of you people so rude, why can't we have some good positive support without being torn apart here?
Where will you be practicing so I can stay far away?
I'm just a lowly RN, but most of the doctors I know would never recommend any kind of cleanse.0 -
This
I have just never understood what needs to be cleansed or detoxed when people ask about these. Our bodies are made to do these things naturally.0 -
This is greatness. If I can annoy and irritate people this much on here, then maybe I should post more often. Can't Wait!
You won't be bothering me. I just put you on ignore. No time for people who just like to cause trouble.0 -
This is greatness. If I can annoy and irritate people this much on here, then maybe I should post more often. Can't Wait!
You won't be bothering me. I just put you on ignore. No time for people who just like to cause trouble.
My heart is crushed!0 -
So wait... yogurt won't knock out the yeast issues... but a magic lemonade will?? Mind... blown. Poof.0
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The Master Cleanse is NOT for weight loss. It is a way to give your digestive system a rest and clean it out. Our digestive systems can hold up to 20lbs of unprocessed waste. I have gastic issues and do the cleanse once per year by order of my gastro doctor, so it's not all hype.
The main point? IT'S NOT FOR WEIGHTLOSS
Message me if you want to ask specific questions about it.0 -
You say this...1. A vast majority of people actually DO have problems with yeast but don't know it and often blame the problems on something else, doing weeks, months, years of using other medications with never finding the cure or treatment. Yeast can cause many many more problems than those that we normally think of and they can be anywhere on the body even in the brain. I can't make this **** up, it's proven.
2. Yes a cleanse can make a difference if the yeast is in the right place... The gut, if it's lower in the gut then good luck, yogurt won't survive that far.
3. Parasites? Yes, it happens... Sushi, under cooked meats of any kind, raw veggies not washed as well as we thought, walking barefoot, swimming in fresh water, IT HAPPENS. Wake up.
Then this...I didn't get either, I am a medical student
I am stunned! Not often that I am speechless but I really am.
Please back up your claims with hard fact. And, no, I don't mean "facts" gleaned on the Internet. Peer-reviewed evidence from a genuine scientific or medical journal please.
And I'm not going to hold my breath...0 -
Okay, just so I'm clear as to how this all works-
Step 1: Make a post
Step 2: Insist we misunderstood you
Step 3: Make a couple of defensive passive-aggressive comments
Step 4: Pretend not to be butthurt
And if I follow this I will feel cleansed? :huh:0 -
The only cleanse you need!
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