How to tell if you're "too skinny"?
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If that's your picture, I'd say you're too skinny too. Eat more protein.
This is Andreas Münzer. He was about 2% body fat. Would you say he's too thin? Of course not. The dude was massive, he just had no fat and a butt load of muscle. Go on a bulk, get some gains, cut and lose the fat you'll inevitably gain on your bulk. Report back in about nine months (assuming six month bulk and three month cut).
Personally, this guy looks absolutely unattractive to me. Give me the body of a swimmer, diver or martial artist any day. I think a woman looks best with some curves to her.
I didn't post this picture to say whether or not he's attractive. I was simply using this as an example of being at an extremely low body fat percentage without looking "too thin." Now as a comparison, check out this Auschwitz mode bro that's probably at a higher body fat percentage than Münzer was.
Basically what I'm saying is this:
Very little fat + whole lot of muscle = strong and lean
Lower/low-ish amount of fat + very little muscle = DYEL mode/Auschwitz mode/"too thin"
Both of these are very unhealthy. The man with tons of muscle and only 2% body fat, and the man with no muscle and little body fat. Athletes like Andreas Münzer go through extreme measures to achieve that look, and it is NOT healthy for the body. They have little to no visceral fat, and their heart and other organs are suffering. People like this feel the effects of their lifestyle later on in life, unfortunately, as do other athletes. The other man pictured, Jordan S. Rubin, is a sufferer of Chron's and that picture was him at his worst. Luckily he is better now. Both are pictures of bodies under EXTREME duress.
There is such a thing as being too skinny. If you are not sure how to gauge this on your own, go to the doctor, run some tests, take some measurements. He or she will let you know if you are putting your body through too much or if you are not getting adequate nutrition.0 -
Do you feel ok? do you like the way you look? are you healthy?
WHO CARES what other people think. It's about you. :drinker:0 -
If I can see your ribs pretty visibly on your chest and your arms look like bones.. your too skinny.. so ya.0
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Do you feel ok? do you like the way you look? are you healthy?
WHO CARES what other people think. It's about you. :drinker:
Agreed!0 -
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Both of these are very unhealthy. The man with tons of muscle and only 2% body fat, and the man with no muscle and little body fat. Athletes like Andreas Münzer go through extreme measures to achieve that look, and it is NOT healthy for the body. They have little to no visceral fat, and their heart and other organs are suffering. People like this feel the effects of their lifestyle later on in life, unfortunately, as do other athletes. The other man pictured, Jordan S. Rubin, is a sufferer of Chron's and that picture was him at his worst. Luckily he is better now. Both are pictures of bodies under EXTREME duress.
There is such a thing as being too skinny. If you are not sure how to gauge this on your own, go to the doctor, run some tests, take some measurements. He or she will let you know if you are putting your body through too much or if you are not getting adequate nutrition.
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Correction.. the very thin man is a former model who died of complictions due to anorexia. So, yes, he was very underweight.0 -
If you truly didnt care what ppl think it would have never bothered you in the first place and you would never have made this post.
Sometimes people like to explore subjects that relate to health.
Also, what's wrong with her taking the time to understand a concern that was presented to her by a loved one.0 -
If it has an impact on hormones to such an extent that ovulation is affected this can have long term health consequences.
If it has immunological impact such that one is falling ill often.
If it has an impact on normal dietary consumption and results in nutrient restriction.
If it is the result of an ED.
If it is related to a comorbidity.
If it impacts day to day fitness performance.
If body fat is so low that other signs like falling hair, grey skin, etc are present.
If it increases the presence of histamine like reactions and joint pain from induced auto-immune conditions.
If fainting is occurring or other conditions which suggest hypoglycemia.
Then one can be too skinny.
But mostly it's about personal and societal view point. You decide on your esthetic.
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Hope that answers the question.0 -
If you truly didnt care what ppl think it would have never bothered you in the first place and you would never have made this post.
Sometimes people like to explore subjects that relate to health.
Also, what's wrong with her taking the time to understand a concern that was presented to her by a loved one.
What thread are you reading? It says nothing about a loved one. She is asking generalized questions based on personal attributes. The outcome is not valid because there is no definite answer. It is common sense that underweight is just as harmful as overweight if she didnt know that and assumes others dont it really isnt a weight conversation. That would shift it to a common sense conversation. You said yourself she doesnt eat enough. She asked if there is any merit in the statement and depending who you ask and their mental stability the answer will vary. Bones protruding and not eating enough I am going to go with you are too skinny. I will even take it a step further and say you have an ED. Am I a doctor? NO Therefore that is just an opinion and holds no water in this journey to find the end all be all way to label someone "too skinny" There are way too many variables in the humane genome to label individuals as too skinny. There are too may medical issues that pertain to muscular distress and development or lack thereof to label ppl as "too skinny". So as many ppl as she asks there is no definite answer. There are too many variables that alter the entire state of the question. generalization on such a huge population has never worked and never will.0 -
If you truly didnt care what ppl think it would have never bothered you in the first place and you would never have made this post.
Wishy washy and hostility = someone in denial or confused...or both
Good luck with that.
Irony is an overweight person who "<3s bacon" (lol) posting multiple unnecessary and hostile replies in this thread, then trying to tell me I'M the one who's hostile and confused about my feelings of self-worth. But hey, if that's how you get your jollies in life, be my guest. Like I said, it's sad people like you whose opinions I don't care about :flowerforyou:0 -
I only want to say to the Op (because some other person twisted my words) that I do not think the OP is under eating or has an ED (not even close). I only looked at one day, and it was over 1800, and I just said "could be a small defecit", but the Op clarified that and it is not. Also, it depends on activity and other factors, sometimes I forget that I am generally more active than usual because I do not have a sedentary job and I'm very active. Also, normal fluctuations from day to day are normal. I eat far and above what is recommended for me because I have a fast metabolism, but during times when I am taking an exercise break I will often eat less and certainly there are days when I eat a little less (when I say less, I still mean an amount that is above the recommendations of maintenance for my age/size/activity). I never eat at a low amount (neither does the OP), and also it only counts as a deficit when it takes into account the weekly totals (not just a random day here and there), calorie cycling is the natural way that all people at maintenance eat.0
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I only want to say to the Op (because some other person twisted my words) that I do not think the OP is under eating or has an ED (not even close). I only looked at one day, and it was over 1800, and I just said "could be a small defecit", but the Op clarified that and it is not. Also, it depends on activity and other factors, sometimes I forget that I am generally more active than usual because I do not have a sedentary job and I'm very active. Also, normal fluctuations from day to day are normal. I eat far and above what is recommended for me because I have a fast metabolism, but during times when I am taking an exercise break I will often eat less and certainly there are days when I eat a little less (when I say less, I still mean an amount that is above the recommendations of maintenance for my age/size/activity). I never eat at a low amount (neither does the OP), and also it only counts as a deficit when it takes into account the weekly totals (not just a random day here and there), calorie cycling is the natural way that all people at maintenance eat.
And to the angry bacon woman, I'm going to stop addressing you after this because it seems you have some difficulty with comprehension - but the physical factors you described (belly flab hanging out, etc) are obvious indicators of being overweight that nobody would argue. The feature I made this post about (visibility of my xylophone) is not obvious, and the consensus from the other posters is that it isn't necessarily an indicator of being underweight, so um, comparison fail? However I do love the irony of a self-proclaimed fat person telling a fit person they need to exercise. You're just full of irony, aren't you0 -
If you truly didnt care what ppl think it would have never bothered you in the first place and you would never have made this post.
Wishy washy and hostility = someone in denial or confused...or both
Good luck with that.
Irony is an overweight person who "<3s bacon" (lol) posting multiple unnecessary and hostile replies in this thread, then trying to tell me I'M the one who's hostile and confused about my feelings of self-worth. But hey, if that's how you get your jollies in life, be my guest. Like I said, it's sad people like you whose opinions I don't care about :flowerforyou:
I have to point out, if you didn't want comments, then why did you ask for them? Also, if you're not too concerned about what people on here are thinking about your profile pic, then why not change your picture to something that doesn't INVITE commentary? You know, like a cute little kitty cat, or a flower, with the thread title set to "What should one do when told they are too skinny?" That way, people won't be inclined to comment, good, bad or indifferent, based on a photo of YOU. The fact that you posted a picture of yourself flexing your arm, letting us anonymous folk know someone in real life told you you were "too skinny", then asking, "is it possible?" sounds like fishing to me. And people have honestly shared what they thought.
Do not imply something, then get upset when others infer something that doesn't fit with your ideal.0 -
May not be helpful, but I think as long as you have a healthy BMI then you are fine. Some people are always going to be envious of people who are naturally thin and don't have to work at it. More often than not, those are the people who are making the too skinny comments. Do what you feel/think is healthy and keeps you within a healthy BMI to live a healthy lifestyle. Best of luck
Totally agree. Most of the people responding here sound just a *tad* bit on the jealous side. I think your picture looks great...and as long as you're healthy...don't let anyone tell you differently...either way!0 -
I have to say, if you didn't want comments, then why did you ask for them? Also, if you're not too concerned about what people on here are thinking about your profile pic, then why not change your picture to something that doesn't INVITE commentary? You know, like a cute little kitty cat, or a flower, with the thread title set to "What should one do when told they are too skinny?" That way, people won't be inclined to comment, good, bad or indifferent, based on a photo of YOU. The fact that you posted a picture of yourself flexing your arm, letting us anonymous folk know someone in real life told you you were "too skinny", then asking, "is it possible?" sounds like fishing to me. And people have honestly shared what they thought.
Do not imply something, then get upset when others infer something that doesn't fit with your ideal.0 -
If you find yourself cold on a sunny day in summertime.
If you lift up your shirt and can easily count, and categorize your ribs based on length and thickness.
If you bump into a table corner and it cuts through your limb and it falls off.
If when you do the chicken dance, and people think you're mimicking a vulture.
If you think tic tacs and a glass of metamucil-in-water is a "balanced breakfast".
But most importantly, if your DOCTOR says you're underweight and that it could hurt you, you're probably too skinny.0 -
If you find yourself cold on a sunny day in summertime.
If you lift up your shirt and can easily count, and categorize your ribs based on length and thickness.
If you bump into a table corner and it cuts through your limb and it falls off.
If when you do the chicken dance, and people think you're mimicking a vulture.
If you think tic tacs and a glass of metamucil-in-water is a "balanced breakfast".
But most importantly, if your DOCTOR says you're underweight and that it could hurt you, you're probably too skinny.
OMFG :laugh: Stealing this for the next post like this hope I beat you to it :drinker:0 -
May not be helpful, but I think as long as you have a healthy BMI then you are fine. Some people are always going to be envious of people who are naturally thin and don't have to work at it. More often than not, those are the people who are making the too skinny comments. Do what you feel/think is healthy and keeps you within a healthy BMI to live a healthy lifestyle. Best of luck
Totally agree. Most of the people responding here sound just a *tad* bit on the jealous side. I think your picture looks great...and as long as you're healthy...don't let anyone tell you differently...either way!
When someone doesn't agree with someone else's opinion, why must it always go to the "they're just jealous!" angle? I couldn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't EVER be a size 2. I'm certainly not jealous of others who are -- because my self worth is intrinsic, not extrinsic. You will never, ever, find me posting a thread that asks anonymous people over the internet to "rate my profile pic". It sounds needy, desperate, and sad. (This is a general statement, not directed to the OP's thread here)0 -
I only want to say to the Op (because some other person twisted my words) that I do not think the OP is under eating or has an ED (not even close). I only looked at one day, and it was over 1800, and I just said "could be a small defecit", but the Op clarified that and it is not. Also, it depends on activity and other factors, sometimes I forget that I am generally more active than usual because I do not have a sedentary job and I'm very active. Also, normal fluctuations from day to day are normal. I eat far and above what is recommended for me because I have a fast metabolism, but during times when I am taking an exercise break I will often eat less and certainly there are days when I eat a little less (when I say less, I still mean an amount that is above the recommendations of maintenance for my age/size/activity). I never eat at a low amount (neither does the OP), and also it only counts as a deficit when it takes into account the weekly totals (not just a random day here and there), calorie cycling is the natural way that all people at maintenance eat.
And to the angry bacon woman, I'm going to stop addressing you after this because it seems you have some difficulty with comprehension - but the physical factors you described (belly flab hanging out, etc) are obvious indicators of being overweight that nobody would argue. The feature I made this post about (visibility of my xylophone) is not obvious, and the consensus from the other posters is that it isn't necessarily an indicator of being underweight, so um, comparison fail? However I do love the irony of a self-proclaimed fat person telling a fit person they need to exercise. You're just full of irony, aren't you
I would've hoped MFP would've not degenerated into a battle of "HA HA YOU'RE A STICK" and "HA HA WELL YOU'RE A FATTY FATTY".
This isn't middle school, kids. I hope this thread gets locked and no one gets the information they wanted.0 -
If you truly didnt care what ppl think it would have never bothered you in the first place and you would never have made this post.
Wishy washy and hostility = someone in denial or confused...or both
Good luck with that.
Irony is an overweight person who "<3s bacon" (lol) posting multiple unnecessary and hostile replies in this thread, then trying to tell me I'M the one who's hostile and confused about my feelings of self-worth. But hey, if that's how you get your jollies in life, be my guest. Like I said, it's sad people like you whose opinions I don't care about :flowerforyou:
I have to say, if you didn't want comments, then why did you ask for them? Also, if you're not too concerned about what people on here are thinking about your profile pic, then why not change your picture to something that doesn't INVITE commentary? You know, like a cute little kitty cat, or a flower, with the thread title set to "What should one do when told they are too skinny?" That way, people won't be inclined to comment, good, bad or indifferent, based on a photo of YOU. The fact that you posted a picture of yourself flexing your arm, letting us anonymous folk know someone in real life told you you were "too skinny", then asking, "is it possible?" sounds like fishing to me. And people have honestly shared what they thought.
Do not imply something, then get upset when others infer something that doesn't fit with your ideal.
You are trying to talk sense to someone who cant decipher it. Dont waste your time. *hands you a piece of bacon* Lets go sit at the cool kids table :laugh:
I will take that bacon and double the birthday cake I had earlier. :laugh:0 -
May not be helpful, but I think as long as you have a healthy BMI then you are fine. Some people are always going to be envious of people who are naturally thin and don't have to work at it. More often than not, those are the people who are making the too skinny comments. Do what you feel/think is healthy and keeps you within a healthy BMI to live a healthy lifestyle. Best of luck
Totally agree. Most of the people responding here sound just a *tad* bit on the jealous side. I think your picture looks great...and as long as you're healthy...don't let anyone tell you differently...either way!
When someone doesn't agree with someone else's opinion, why must it always go to the "they're just jealous!" angle? I couldn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't EVER be a size 2. I'm certainly not jealous of others who are -- because my self worth is intrinsic, not extrinsic. You will never, ever, find me posting a thread that asks anonymous people over the internet to "rate my profile pic". It sounds needy, desperate, and sad. (This is a general statement, not directed to the OP's thread here)
No one said you were jealous and I can't imagine anyone thinking you are. I certainly do not think you are jealous. I do not share your opinions, that's all.0 -
I only want to say to the Op (because some other person twisted my words) that I do not think the OP is under eating or has an ED (not even close). I only looked at one day, and it was over 1800, and I just said "could be a small defecit", but the Op clarified that and it is not. Also, it depends on activity and other factors, sometimes I forget that I am generally more active than usual because I do not have a sedentary job and I'm very active. Also, normal fluctuations from day to day are normal. I eat far and above what is recommended for me because I have a fast metabolism, but during times when I am taking an exercise break I will often eat less and certainly there are days when I eat a little less (when I say less, I still mean an amount that is above the recommendations of maintenance for my age/size/activity). I never eat at a low amount (neither does the OP), and also it only counts as a deficit when it takes into account the weekly totals (not just a random day here and there), calorie cycling is the natural way that all people at maintenance eat.
And to the angry bacon woman, I'm going to stop addressing you after this because it seems you have some difficulty with comprehension - but the physical factors you described (belly flab hanging out, etc) are obvious indicators of being overweight that nobody would argue. The feature I made this post about (visibility of my xylophone) is not obvious, and the consensus from the other posters is that it isn't necessarily an indicator of being underweight, so um, comparison fail? However I do love the irony of a self-proclaimed fat person telling a fit person they need to exercise. You're just full of irony, aren't you
I would've hoped MFP would've not degenerated into a battle of "HA HA YOU'RE A STICK" and "HA HA WELL YOU'RE A FATTY FATTY".
This isn't middle school, kids. I hope this thread gets locked and no one gets the information they wanted.
Doesnt bother me none I know I am fat. It isnt an insult it is the truth. I am just wondering what she will come up with when I am not so fat and all muscle :laugh: I will make sure to change my pic and ask if everyone thinks it is possible to be too muscular. :laugh: Like water off a ducks back life is too short to get all angry and hostile. Thats for ppl that live in denial and cant handle the truth0 -
I have to say, if you didn't want comments, then why did you ask for them? Also, if you're not too concerned about what people on here are thinking about your profile pic, then why not change your picture to something that doesn't INVITE commentary? You know, like a cute little kitty cat, or a flower, with the thread title set to "What should one do when told they are too skinny?" That way, people won't be inclined to comment, good, bad or indifferent, based on a photo of YOU. The fact that you posted a picture of yourself flexing your arm, letting us anonymous folk know someone in real life told you you were "too skinny", then asking, "is it possible?" sounds like fishing to me. And people have honestly shared what they thought.
Do not imply something, then get upset when others infer something that doesn't fit with your ideal.
could you stand to eat a bit more? maybe a little... if you want to. is it a big deal? hell no. you're eating plenty of food, your macros look great, and you're lean and toned. you know what your body type looks like? people from japan/okinawa/etc who live to be over 100 years old.
as everyone else has said, if your doctors are happy with your vitals and you've got all the energy you want, you don't have to change a thing - especially not to appease the perceptions of the extremely overweight masses.
as a skinny guy - i feel ya girl.0 -
Yikes, what a thread to see on my first visit to the forums. I certainly haven't read through the 5 pages of retorts but....
1) Ask your doctor. If they say you are too thin, you are too thin.
2) I don't think your picture makes you appear too thin. I can't tell about your bone structure or your height. Admittedly, seeing your ticker, I thought, "Why the hell does a 130# woman want to lose that much weight?" If you're 5' and under, then it would make sense.
3) I have a friend that is 5'11" and is incredibly thin. She eats healthily but eats like a normal person. She exercises minimally for health. She's never dieted a day in her life but apparently has a ridiculous metabolism. I've known her for years and have spent a lot of time with her. If she had an ED,I would know it. She doesn't. But that doesn't stop people from calling her anorexic. She has very, very, bony arms and hands but her legs and the rest of her are completely normal. All that to say, don't just a book by its cover.
So, yeah, hi. I'm new here......0 -
I have to say, if you didn't want comments, then why did you ask for them? Also, if you're not too concerned about what people on here are thinking about your profile pic, then why not change your picture to something that doesn't INVITE commentary? You know, like a cute little kitty cat, or a flower, with the thread title set to "What should one do when told they are too skinny?" That way, people won't be inclined to comment, good, bad or indifferent, based on a photo of YOU. The fact that you posted a picture of yourself flexing your arm, letting us anonymous folk know someone in real life told you you were "too skinny", then asking, "is it possible?" sounds like fishing to me. And people have honestly shared what they thought.
Do not imply something, then get upset when others infer something that doesn't fit with your ideal.
I'm NOT telling you to change your profile photo -- I am saying that, if you DON'T WANT people to comment on your profile pic, don't ask the question that invites people to comment, THEN get upset when they give you their honest opinion. I'm proud of what I've accomplished too, but I don't need to post threads asking for other people's opinions. You would have received less flack from several of us, had you NOT put your pic on there (but kept it in your profile), and asked a generic question that removed all chances for judgment.
This really isn't that difficult to understand. Don't stir the pot if you don't want the recipe ruined.0 -
Yikes, what a thread to see on my first visit to the forums. I certainly haven't read through the 5 pages of retorts but....
1) Ask your doctor. If they say you are too thin, you are too thin.
2) I don't think your picture makes you appear too thin. I can't tell about your bone structure or your height. Admittedly, seeing your ticker, I thought, "Why the hell does a 130# woman want to lose that much weight?" If you're 5' and under, then it would make sense.
3) I have a friend that is 5'11" and is incredibly thin. She eats healthily but eats like a normal person. She exercises minimally for health. She's never dieted a day in her life but apparently has a ridiculous metabolism. I've known her for years and have spent a lot of time with her. If she had an ED,I would know it. She doesn't. But that doesn't stop people from calling her anorexic. She has very, very, bony arms and hands but her legs and the rest of her are completely normal. All that to say, don't just a book by its cover.
So, yeah, hi. I'm new here......
Hello, nice to meet you! This is a great reply and really addresses the issues well!0 -
i'm thin looking, like u, but that's because i'm very active and i'm built like slenderman haha. when i was younger, my doctor forced me on a scale and asked me if i had ever felt fat... and my doctor was obese so... i started yelling at her for trying to diagnose me with an eating disorder. awkkwarrd! anyway, listen to ur body! simple signs of unwellness can serve as an indicators for needed change... maybe you are sicker easily or find yourself going numb with the cold, while others around you remain unconcerned. if ur worried about being "too skinny", perhaps use 18.5 bmi as a [limit] to ur weightloss... i think it would be wise, even if bmi is a load of bollocks.0
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Just be healthy and happy and feel good about your self:smooched:0
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Yikes, what a thread to see on my first visit to the forums. I certainly haven't read through the 5 pages of retorts but....
1) Ask your doctor. If they say you are too thin, you are too thin.
2) I don't think your picture makes you appear too thin. I can't tell about your bone structure or your height. Admittedly, seeing your ticker, I thought, "Why the hell does a 130# woman want to lose that much weight?" If you're 5' and under, then it would make sense.
3) I have a friend that is 5'11" and is incredibly thin. She eats healthily but eats like a normal person. She exercises minimally for health. She's never dieted a day in her life but apparently has a ridiculous metabolism. I've known her for years and have spent a lot of time with her. If she had an ED,I would know it. She doesn't. But that doesn't stop people from calling her anorexic. She has very, very, bony arms and hands but her legs and the rest of her are completely normal. All that to say, don't just a book by its cover.
So, yeah, hi. I'm new here......
Hi! I'm 5'10" and I am NOT super skinny. In fact, I still have some lbs to go. But, I'm not gonna freak out if I don't get to my desired goal. I'm just happy to be back to a size I haven't been since I went to college 20+ years ago!
I have a friend who is morbidly obese and while I would never say anything mean or nasty to her about it, she did feel it was perfectly okay to call me "bones", which I found to be a bit offensive and completely inaccurate. I'd have to lose a lot of weight to get to that point, and I have no desire to do so.0 -
I'm NOT telling you to change your profile photo -- I am saying that, if you DON'T WANT people to comment on your profile pic, don't ask the question that invites people to comment, THEN get upset when they give you their honest opinion. I'm proud of what I've accomplished too, but I don't need to post threads asking for other people's opinions. You would have received less flack from several of us, had you NOT put your pic on there (but kept it in your profile), and asked a generic question that removed all chances for judgment.
This really isn't that difficult to understand. Don't stir the pot if you don't want the recipe ruined.
CoachReddy, in fact my goal is to live to be 100! (Also, I've been told I have the Japanese dress style going on too..)
And mompom, welcome to the forums, and sorry this was the first post you had to see0 -
I'm NOT telling you to change your profile photo -- I am saying that, if you DON'T WANT people to comment on your profile pic, don't ask the question that invites people to comment, THEN get upset when they give you their honest opinion. I'm proud of what I've accomplished too, but I don't need to post threads asking for other people's opinions. You would have received less flack from several of us, had you NOT put your pic on there (but kept it in your profile), and asked a generic question that removed all chances for judgment.
This really isn't that difficult to understand. Don't stir the pot if you don't want the recipe ruined.
CoachReddy, in fact my goal is to live to be 100! (Also, I've been told I have the Japanese dress style going on too..)
And mompom, welcome to the forums, and sorry this was the first post you had to see
I learned something very important a few years ago: what I perceive or infer is often different from others' realities or implications. In other words, I have no right to be upset when I ask "what's your opinion of xyz?" and I get a lot of what I don't want to hear. And, when I give someone my honest opinion, that doesn't mean they're going to accept it in the way I want them to.
PS: I know this sounds contradictory to what I have posted, but I do get a little pang of jealousy when women rock bikinis. I've NEVER been able to wear one with 100% confidence. Good for you!0
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