Please tell me ready meals aren't that bad :(

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  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    Just search:

    Jamie Oliver Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream and take a look at what you find in the video of the high school students eating ice cream sundaes.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Just search:

    Jamie Oliver Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream and take a look at what you find in the video of the high school students eating ice cream sundaes.

    I did some searching but am having trouble finding substantiation of the claim that "duck feathers, human hair and lacquer bug secretions were the main ingredients in the cookie dough used in commercially processed ice cream".

    Fortunately for me, my ice cream of choice is Breyer's Coffee ice cream...(but would prefer if they would go back to their previous recipe that didn't include the tara gum).
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    I lost 4 1/2 stone and got to be healthiest and strongest I've ever been (running 7.2 miles then cycling 50 miles in a day) eating a large proportion of ready meals.

    In some cases I would try and add salad to ready meals, others I wouldn't.

    I find them excellent for portion control (there's a reason I had to lose 4 1/2 stone) - as well as decent cost (I don't mind horse) - and you can get some with pretty decent macro ratios these days.

    Ingredients
    1) Any of the foods or substances that are combined to make a particular dish or meal.
    2) A component part or element of something: "all the ingredients of a mystery".
    Seems 'Vitamin C' could fit both of those. Of course the list of 'ingredients' have been, one could say, considerably more 'processed' than most foods people moan about it.
  • ggxx100
    ggxx100 Posts: 520 Member
    Do you want me to make you happy or tell you the truth?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    so what is the practical implication of your point?
    That just because one can't pronounce an ingredient of vitamin or mineral, that they should avoid it. Using sense, nutritional information and research should help one decide if they can have something in their diet or not. Not just because someone says it's "bad" for you.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    Just search:

    Jamie Oliver Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream and take a look at what you find in the video of the high school students eating ice cream sundaes.
    Lol, I'm Asian. I've eaten more than just duck feather and human hair and have survived just fine. In fact, I'd like some balut right now.

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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Once I found out that duck feathers, human hair and lacquer bug secretions were the main ingredients in the cookie dough used in commercially processed ice cream, I started paying a little more attention to the ice cream I ate. Vanilla beans, sugar, and milk -- can't get any more basic than that, eh?

    In...

    ...to learn more about this cookie dough comprised mostly of duck feathers, human hair, and lacquer bug secretions.


    Oh, and I too am able to pronounce seemingly complicated words. I don't think that's a valid basis on which I should rely to eat them though. Perhaps we should consider a different criteria.

    QFT and in
  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    so what is the practical implication of your point?
    That just because one can't pronounce an ingredient of vitamin or mineral, that they should avoid it. Using sense, nutritional information and research should help one decide if they can have something in their diet or not. Not just because someone says it's "bad" for you.

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    Jamie never said "it's bad for you", he said "If you don't know what it is on the label, you don't want it going into your body". That's not a bad philosophy, in my opinion.
  • GrnEyz80
    GrnEyz80 Posts: 121
    You know, I used to live off them too! I realized one day that I had not had a REAL meal in over 2 months at one point. Everything was the processed pre-packaged foods. When I realized that I got so sick! I am really busy and work horrible hours. So what I decided to do was make my own "pre-packaged" meals. On my days off I go shopping and do my all my cooking for the week. I store the dinners in airtight containers and then for work I just have to pull them out of the fridge and go. SO much better! It does make for one busy day off, but then the rest of the week everything is done and planned out. Even my lunches and breakfasts...so there is NO thinking about my meals the rest of the week! I love it.
  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    Just search:

    Jamie Oliver Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream and take a look at what you find in the video of the high school students eating ice cream sundaes.

    I did some searching but am having trouble finding substantiation of the claim that "duck feathers, human hair and lacquer bug secretions were the main ingredients in the cookie dough used in commercially processed ice cream".

    Fortunately for me, my ice cream of choice is Breyer's Coffee ice cream...(but would prefer if they would go back to their previous recipe that didn't include the tara gum).

    I PMed you the video for you to watch.
  • meadow_sage
    meadow_sage Posts: 308 Member
    The Lean Cuisine Butternut Squash Ravioli....omg, it's so good. They are mostly pretty bad, the biggest problem is the sodium. Also most of them don't even have a full serving of vegetables. When I do eat them I eat them with a few servings of vegetables in addition, which is a good thing because they are not very filling.
  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    Once I found out that duck feathers, human hair and lacquer bug secretions were the main ingredients in the cookie dough used in commercially processed ice cream, I started paying a little more attention to the ice cream I ate. Vanilla beans, sugar, and milk -- can't get any more basic than that, eh?

    In...

    ...to learn more about this cookie dough comprised mostly of duck feathers, human hair, and lacquer bug secretions.


    Oh, and I too am able to pronounce seemingly complicated words. I don't think that's a valid basis on which I should rely to eat them though. Perhaps we should consider a different criteria.

    QFT and in

    Check your PM.
  • Sunnyjb
    Sunnyjb Posts: 220
    man, I came back to check on this thread and it is flamingly obvious she just wants coddling.

    If you HAVE to use them as a stepping stone, try Amy's organic meals. They are a smidge better for you.
  • drayco_
    drayco_ Posts: 17
    Pretty sure fruit and vegetable are ready made meals.

    Good rule of thumb, if you want to be healthy, don't eat anything that comes out of a microwave.
  • spike90
    spike90 Posts: 704 Member
    I eat a lot of frozen dinners and pre made boxed meals and they have still allowed me to lose weight (although I am sure that I would have lost more by now had I eaten non premade foods). The sodium content is probably the worst thing about them (although you can get some in low sodium varieties). I just drink more water to help make up for it. You just have to do what is best for you :)
  • drayco_
    drayco_ Posts: 17
    I eat a lot of frozen dinners and pre made boxed meals and they have still allowed me to lose weight (although I am sure that I would have lost more by now had I eaten non premade foods). The sodium content is probably the worst thing about them (although you can get some in low sodium varieties). I just drink more water to help make up for it. You just have to do what is best for you :)

    Well the sodium content and the fact that the nutritional value is probably really low, you've irradiated the food when microwaved, and unless it's certified organic, you have to worry about gmo, peticides, herbicides, and all sorts of other stuff. Unless you know who made your food or you watch it being made, you have no idea what's in it. Also, the preservatives and other carcinogens in them. Not too mention they don't even label everything in the meal to begin with. Someone did mentions Amy's on here.

    If I absolutely had no choice, I would eat Amy's. Organic and GMO free.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    So what is 'unhealthy' about GMO, why would you worry about it? Sodium too, for that matter, if you make sure it all adds up ok? Heating it in a microwave? (No, it's not equivalent to a nuclear reactor.)
    You have as much trust as to what's in it as you do to something labelled 'Organic' actually being Organic.

    Unless you planted it/bred it, watered and fed it then dug it out of the ground or slaughtered it, you can't really know.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,223 Member
    So what is 'unhealthy' about GMO, why would you worry about it?
    Well, we'll never know in North America where traceability and labeling is not mandatory. The big crops that get a pass are soy, corn and canola modified to be herbicide-tolerant, mostly to Roundup and other modified insecticide toxins and any other. As of now testing is not mandatory, nor is testing done independently and any testing by the Companies that produce GM crops is kept and not disclosed. Any data extracted from these corporations (court orders) has conflicting results from animal studies, so I wouldn't be one of the people that blindly accept that GM crops has no long term effect on health. Some Countries have banned some major GMO's mostly the crops either coming from North America, where about 97% of GM foods originate or within those Countries from Companies that produce GM crops. Germany, Italy, UK, France, Spain, Switzerland, Norway, Australia and so on. Anyway, we really don't know the risk, but if trans fats are an example of human modification for the sake of cost and political ranging in food dynamics and health, I would wait and see what the world finds out over time.
  • goexpos
    goexpos Posts: 27 Member
    for anyone who isnt convinced I would recommend reading Salt Sugar Fat by Michael Moss - it'll help anyone get off processed food. should be required reading in school.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    for anyone who isnt convinced I would recommend reading Salt Sugar Fat by Michael Moss - it'll help anyone get off processed food. should be required reading in school.
    Learning proper eating habits come from home. Kids now don't care about what they are eating and reading about how bad they are would be a waste of school funds that could be directed to more important subjects like science (where one can learn about chemistry, physiology and biology) and math.

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  • gracielee1
    gracielee1 Posts: 71 Member
    anything microwavable is bad.
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    anything microwavable is bad.

    So my leftover dinner that consisted of a grilled pork roast is bad because I'm going to put it in the microwave to heat it up?? The popcorn kernals that I toss into a brown paper bag and pop in the microwave is bad?WATER that I heat in the microwave is bad??:huh: There are lots of things that are microwaveable that aren't bad.

    Honestly OP I don't see anything wrong with ready meals if you have them once in a while. I bought a bunch of WW Smart Ones the other day when I was at the grocery store for the convenience factor. If I am in a hurry or just don't feel like making something to eat it's quick and it's easy. I don't see anything wrong with them. They're portion controlled too.
  • mariposa224
    mariposa224 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I basically live off them. I'm always so tired and rushed that they are just so quick and convienient. The only times I don;t eat them is when I go to a friends house who cooks, or I go out for dinner, or sometimes I will have an omlette or porridge.

    I eat fruit and yogurt for brekkie, granola bar for a snack, ham and egg salad for lunch and usually more fruit/cereal bar snack in the afternoon. So it;s not like i'm not getting my nutrients.

    I will make sure i'm always within my calories and try to pick the ones with less salt/sugar etc.

    Are they really as harmful for your health as everyone says??

    they're pretty bad. sodium like nobodies business - even the "low sodium" options.

    learn to cook. it'll make you and your friends/family much happier in the long run! :)
    The Lean Cuisines that I eat for lunch are generally 600 or less mg of sodium. High? Yes, I suppose so, but they're actually substantially LOWER than a lot of other things I actually COOK. Granted, I'll buy a package of yellow rice because I have no clue how to make it from scratch. The yellow rice is 730mg per 1 cup serving. Add in ANYTHING else and my sodium for THAT meal is going to be far higher than the Lean Cuisine. Shrug...
  • Jane_1705
    Jane_1705 Posts: 152 Member
    I would say it depends. I personally eat M&S fuller longer meals a few times a week and they contain nothing bad as far as I can see from the labels and are low in sodium. Plus they are very tasty.
    Just keep checking the labels and do what works best for your lifestyle.
    Jane
  • Cam_
    Cam_ Posts: 515 Member
    I used to eat the Michalena's dinners for a while. They seemed ok at first and I tried the various versions/flavours. I soon found that they all started to taste the same. I have to credit them for *inspiring* me to learn how to cook. Long story short, when you make it yourself, it will be cheaper, healthier and taste better.

    The next time you have a "ready" meal, have a look at the ingredients and the nutrients. I have found that they are usually loaded with fat, salt or sugar or all of the above. Then you will usually get loads of MSG and other bizarre additives. Keep in mind that most of these "foods" are made in gigantic batches so they require special chemicals to just make the "recipes" work in huge industrial-sized machines. I knew a guy that worked in the food industry and he said he would *never* eat anything processed since he has seen what happens behind the scenes with some of these huge vats of "food".

    Oh and don't ever believe that the companies that make these "meals" have your best interests in mind. They are driven by profit goals and whatever they can do to maximize profits, they will do. You're health is of no concern.

    On a positive note, the internet is an amazing resource for great recipes. It's good to plan out your meals in advance so that you know what groceries you will need for the week.If you can drop a skinless boneless chicken breast in a frying pan (or barbeque or oven), then you're halfway there already. It's all pretty simple once you get started.

    All the best on your fitness journey.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    . Anyway, we really don't know the risk,
    Nor do we 'know' the risk of a lot of 'normal' foods we eat. We presume they don't cause the nasty things that happen to some people, but there's rarely been much research in to it and what has, has usually had a nasty bias.
    anything microwavable is bad.
    So any food not in a metal container is bad?
  • drayco_
    drayco_ Posts: 17
    Some of these answers, wow.

    Be careful who and where you get advise from..

    Research research. If you have to ask why GMO is bad, maybe you should do some research.

    Look at studies that show a rat fed nothing but GMO food and a rat fed regular feed. See what happens for yourself.

    IMO, I wouldn't eat anything that's not organic and that has the least amount of ingredients. Microwaving strips a good amount of all the nutrients from the food. Then your eating dead food. You might lose some weight by eating those but at what cost. Most likely will develop some sort of cancer or other disease later down the road. Especially if your microwaving platics with your food. Most all the frozen ready meals are in plastic trays. Petroleum based.

    I could go on but yeah. If you want to lose weight, it's easy. Eat right, eat smart, drink lots of water, stay away from refined sugars, wheats, dead foods, get plenty of rest, deal with any stress in your life so it's not bottled up, exercise, and maintain healthy relationships with people. Don't bottle up emotions. When you are stressed out, people use eating to cope. They don't always eat the best foods for that either.

    Good luck everyone.

    Cheers
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Cheers, I'll be careful not to feed rats GMO food, at least not pet ones.

    Did the study, by any chance, specify a specific type of GMO food, rather than just 'GMO' food in general?

    I've seen studies where they fed dogs chocolate.
    The dogs died!
    No way I'd eat chocolate again.
    (All lies - I still eat chocolate.)

    I like 'ingredients'. I often adds lots of additives to food to add flavour. Reasonably comprehensive basket of 'shakers'.

    So, care to provide some research that shows either a) all GMO foods are bad for humans because they've been 'GM', or that specific ones are?

    Next - what happens to these nutrients that doesn't happen during another type of cooking when microwaved?
    Got some studies to back this up?*

    Similarly with cancer or some other disease?
    What do you base this on.

    If a plastic tray has been designed to be microwaved and shown not to be dangerous, what's the issue what it's made of?
    Do you have some research to back this up?

    Yes, please do go - with some back up for your claims :).

    This suggests the opposite. Infact, cooking in a microwave tends to lose less nutrients than boiling or baking.
    Steaming apparently is the best way.
    Compare to Other Microwave Cooking Research

    As Dr. García-Viguera points out in her research paper, other studies don't show a high loss of nutrients with microwave cooking. In fact, the following two studies indicate that microwave cooking helps retain flavonoids better than other methods.

    Loss of Flavonoids from Potatoes:

    • Microwaved 45%
    • Boiled 60%
    • Baked 100%

    Loss of Flavonoids from Tomatoes:

    • Microwaved 65%
    • Boiled 82%

    Microwaves are not the same as the particle-ionized radiation found in x-rays. They're non-ionizing electromagnetic waves between common radio waves and infrared frequencies. Microwaves pass through food to create the heat that cooks it.

    Weighing all the research available, microwave cooking measures up equally to most other cooking methods. It also has the advantage of being fast, easy and cost effective.