Well, why can't you?
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It's none of your business.0
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Well, it's been 85 days now. I have been under my calorie goal every day, I have never taken a "cheat day" , I have lost weight at each weigh in. I am doing it slowly because I want to do it slowly, as my skin is not young anymore. I honestly have had no trouble sticking to the program. My diary is open, feel free to look if you want to.
And YES it's a matter of individual determination. None of you are going to rush to somebody's house and yank that fork out of the person's hand. My point is that it can be done. Not easy, but it can be done. I think I made a positive point.
Your diary is NOT open for anyone to view. Doing it slowly and consistently is the appropriate way to get down to a healthy weight and maintain a healthy lifestyle. However, your original post was not very nice, considerate or empathetic to anyone. If you never felt the need to eat a little more than you should have or have that slice of cake after a filling dinner, then you would not be signed up with MFP to lose weight in the first place. Really what your post does aside from belittle and degrade others, is point out your hipocracy. I hope that you take the time to ponder your approach and reconsider what you are saying. You never know what someone feels until you have walked a mile in their shoes.0 -
Well, it's been 85 days now. I have been under my calorie goal every day, I have never taken a "cheat day" , I have lost weight at each weigh in. I am doing it slowly because I want to do it slowly, as my skin is not young anymore. I honestly have had no trouble sticking to the program. My diary is open, feel free to look if you want to.
And YES it's a matter of individual determination. None of you are going to rush to somebody's house and yank that fork out of the person's hand. My point is that it can be done. Not easy, but it can be done. I think I made a positive point.
Well, you must be better than everyone else then...go you for being so perfect.0 -
Yes, it's so simple, and eating is something that we as race have mastered control over. It's completely impossible to become addicted to food, as it's not comparable at all to drug or alcohol addictions.
People who can't stop bingeing obviously don't want to stop, and lack self control. However, since it's so easy, the majority of people in the U.S. are of average to below average weight, and there is not a single E.D. clinic in all of the world.
A word of advice...instead of ragging on people who are incapable of doing what you so clearly are able to do (and without any trouble, at that), I'd worry about accomplishing your own goals. I for one have met plenty of people on here that are not only hard-working and determined, and their weight is in no way a reflection of a lack of will or self control.0 -
Well, it's been 85 days now. I have been under my calorie goal every day, I have never taken a "cheat day" , I have lost weight at each weigh in. I am doing it slowly because I want to do it slowly, as my skin is not young anymore. I honestly have had no trouble sticking to the program. My diary is open, feel free to look if you want to.
And YES it's a matter of individual determination. None of you are going to rush to somebody's house and yank that fork out of the person's hand. My point is that it can be done. Not easy, but it can be done. I think I made a positive point.
Saying that your post was meant to tell people "it can be done" is a bit silly. Obviously we know it is possible to lose weight. We are bombarded with enough tv commercials and magazines telling us howsomeone has lost 10-500 lbs. The success stories alone in this web page are enough to let people know that. I don't agree with people saying you will fail. Maybe you won't. I hope you succeed. Some people need some support. Looks like you are doing fine without support. Good for you. For those of us that like the extra helping hand now and again should not be brutalized for it.
The mere fact that a forum and the ability to add friends even exists on MFP shows that some people believe group support can be helpful to weight loss. You have your own path to walk, no need kicking the walking sticks out of other people's hands just because you don't need one.0 -
"What are you hoping people get from your post?"
I'm hoping they get the determination to succeed. What else?
I am pretty sure your have failed in your attempt to help anyone.0 -
I'm getting very tired of seeing posts whining that I can't stop bingeing, I can't stop eating or drinking thus and so, I can't stop falling off the wagon...well, why can't you? Is somebody standing there holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat that cupcake or pizza or whatever? Do you really want to lose weight and get healthier or do you want to shovel in pop-tarts? You don't need hand-holding and people constantly reassuring you, you aren't a baby and don't need to be treated like one. If you don't want to do it, muscle up some self control and don't do it, and if you haven't got the self-control, that's nobody's fault but your own. This isn't being harsh, it's REALISTIC. Get some willpower. If you don't you WILL fail. Nobody can do it for you, you have to do it yourself.
Some people who binge don't understand about eating enough calories, that they have to eat back exercise calories or their bodies will end up starving and thus want to binge. Most of us are in trouble and need help or we wouldn't be on here -- that's reality.
I work in an office with a hospitality refrigerator. That fridge is always full of cakes, muffins, and cookies. A few weeks ago I was dying for a piece of cake and asked the MFP people to talk me out of it (I asked them to gross me out). After their hilarious posts I not only resisted, but haven't touched a piece of junk food since.
"Willpower" is both psychological and physical. It's the retraining of your mind and body and it isn't easy. I quit smoking many, many years ago and did it with a support system. The people who know they need support are the smart ones.0 -
i find the horse av, paired with the judgy judgy post, highly amusing.
i cannot help but wonder, about the horse, how high is it?0 -
The horse is just under 15.3.0
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that's not nearly high enough for you, m'dear.0
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I'm getting very tired of seeing posts whining that I can't stop bingeing, I can't stop eating or drinking thus and so, I can't stop falling off the wagon...well, why can't you? Is somebody standing there holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat that cupcake or pizza or whatever? Do you really want to lose weight and get healthier or do you want to shovel in pop-tarts? You don't need hand-holding and people constantly reassuring you, you aren't a baby and don't need to be treated like one. If you don't want to do it, muscle up some self control and don't do it, and if you haven't got the self-control, that's nobody's fault but your own. This isn't being harsh, it's REALISTIC. Get some willpower. If you don't you WILL fail. Nobody can do it for you, you have to do it yourself.
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that's not nearly high enough for you, m'dear.
Oh god I wish this was facebook so I could "like" this. Perfectly executed burn.0 -
that's not nearly high enough for you, m'dear.
Hahah well played :drinker:0 -
Unless you've had an ED you wouldn't understand.
Food is literally addictive. Science proves is. Food addicts get
The same release of endorphins as drug addicts do.
And why do you care about other people?
Support people and worry about yourself.
Be thankful YOU don't have an ED.
you don't see people turning tricks for a Mc Chicken tho do you?0 -
that's not nearly high enough for you, m'dear.
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I'm getting very tired of seeing posts whining that I can't stop bingeing, I can't stop eating or drinking thus and so, I can't stop falling off the wagon...well, why can't you? Is somebody standing there holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat that cupcake or pizza or whatever? Do you really want to lose weight and get healthier or do you want to shovel in pop-tarts? You don't need hand-holding and people constantly reassuring you, you aren't a baby and don't need to be treated like one. If you don't want to do it, muscle up some self control and don't do it, and if you haven't got the self-control, that's nobody's fault but your own. This isn't being harsh, it's REALISTIC. Get some willpower. If you don't you WILL fail. Nobody can do it for you, you have to do it yourself.
Cool story bro.0 -
Wow!... Some people have been pretty nasty on this post. Really no need for it ladies and gents.
This is all just a persons point of view with the understanding they have at this point of their lives.
For those of us that don't have full understanding of someone else journey should want to understand it and for those of us that do understand the hardship it is for us to win the battle and perhaps educate those who don't understand.
Ignorance or nastiness or revenge is not the answer and is futile in helping anyone's life.0 -
Wow!... Some people have been pretty nasty on this post. Really no need for it ladies and gents.
This is all just a persons point of view with the understanding they have at this point of their lives.
For those of us that don't have full understanding of someone else journey should want to understand it and for those of us that do understand the hardship it is for us to win the battle and perhaps educate those who don't understand.
Ignorance or nastiness or revenge is not the answer and is futile in helping anyone's life.
...OP's post is the epitome of ignorance.0 -
expand your logic.Wow!... Some people have been pretty nasty on this post. Really no need for it ladies and gents.
This is all just a persons point of view with the understanding they have at this point of their lives.
For those of us that don't have full understanding of someone else journey should want to understand it and for those of us that do understand the hardship it is for us to win the battle and perhaps educate those who don't understand.
Ignorance or nastiness or revenge is not the answer and is futile in helping anyone's life.
if she is free to express an opinion then others are free to express an opinion on her opinion.
expressing an opinion is revenge? then who was her revenge on?0 -
When I was recovering from an eating disorder in my teens I didn't understand my hunger signals and had to re-learn when to eat, how much to eat, when to stop eating, why I was eating, why I was not eating, and why I was thinking about food. Pretty exhausting, and something that most people really just don't have to think about that often. I can imagine that those with other eating disorders have equally difficult stuff that they are dealing with that make long term success in health just that much harder.
I get that you are saying something along the lines of: "just do it! You can, and it will be worth it! Excuses aren't going to get you results and no one else can succeed for you!" But you are showing disdain for those that are struggling. That is not going to be helpful to anyone.0 -
I may not agree with what you said but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire
In this particular case I agree with the OP .... I guess that makes me an e[itome of ingnorance also, well so be it. I have stopped reading the posts due to the overabundance of whining. The only reason I read this one is because the OP is a friend of mine.
But then ya know..... I hate tattoos too. .0 -
You're post-menopausal. You're done with the hormonal swings that lead to legitimately hungrier days and water retention weight gain which is really discouraging.
Maybe you haven't had sexual assault that has led to self blame and body image issues and the only way to make sure that you're not attacked again is to make that body a little less attractive.
Maybe you don't have PCOS, hypothyroid, injuries, clinical depression or the host of other things that can make eating sensibly and exercising hard if not nearly impossible.
Congratulations on your success, but is it really necessary to berate those having a harder time? In my experience people only do that in order to make themselves feel better. So why is your success not enough for you? Why do you have to belittle others also?0 -
I get that you are saying something along the lines of: "just do it! You can, and it will be worth it! Excuses aren't going to get you results and no one else can succeed for you!" But you are showing disdain for those that are struggling. That is not going to be helpful to anyone.
She just didn't say it very nicely. Come on, try again now, but pick your words more carefully.... *sigh * somehow, I get the feeling that even if given the chance, the OP would not retract her words, or reword them at all.0 -
Unless you've had an ED you wouldn't understand.
Food is literally addictive. Science proves is. Food addicts get
The same release of endorphins as drug addicts do.
And why do you care about other people?
Support people and worry about yourself.
Be thankful YOU don't have an ED.
This.0 -
that's not nearly high enough for you, m'dear.
Oh god I wish this was facebook so I could "like" this. Perfectly executed burn.
TRUTH.0 -
I may not agree with what you said but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire
In this particular case I agree with the OP .... I guess that makes me an e[itome of ingnorance also, well so be it. I have stopped reading the posts due to the overabundance of whining. The only reason I read this one is because the OP is a friend of mine.
But then ya know..... I hate tattoos too. .
You are very insightful nailing your ignorance.0 -
I may not agree with what you said but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire
In this particular case I agree with the OP .... I guess that makes me an e[itome of ingnorance also, well so be it. I have stopped reading the posts due to the overabundance of whining. The only reason I read this one is because the OP is a friend of mine.
But then ya know..... I hate tattoos too. .
Cool, carry on then. Thanks for your input.
I thought about the original post a bit (while I was eating my nachos) and while the OP's intentions may have been to suggest that, yes, we can do it. It'll be hard but we can do it...the way she (or he..I don't really care) said it was completely arrogant and came off as such. And surely doesn't belong in the "Motivation and Support" section.
And thanks for letting us know you hate tattoos too! Surely anyone with tattoos is a questionable member of society, a derelict with no purpose or motivation. How can they possibly amount to anything more than basic labor.
Ok...I might be a bit defensive. I bow out of said conversation and go to bed...I'm getting up early to hit the gym!0 -
So much negativity. I thought we were all here to support each other?
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It must be quite a challenge to navigate the real world with such a lack of empathy.I'm getting very tired of seeing posts whining that I can't stop bingeing, I can't stop eating or drinking thus and so, I can't stop falling off the wagon...well, why can't you?
On a practical note, if you're tired of those kinds of posts, then why don't you just stop reading them? There are certain kinds of posts on the boards that annoy or frustrate me, so I skip them. Problem solved.0 -
I'm getting very tired of seeing posts whining that I can't stop bingeing, I can't stop eating or drinking thus and so, I can't stop falling off the wagon...well, why can't you? Is somebody standing there holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat that cupcake or pizza or whatever? Do you really want to lose weight and get healthier or do you want to shovel in pop-tarts? You don't need hand-holding and people constantly reassuring you, you aren't a baby and don't need to be treated like one. If you don't want to do it, muscle up some self control and don't do it, and if you haven't got the self-control, that's nobody's fault but your own. This isn't being harsh, it's REALISTIC. Get some willpower. If you don't you WILL fail. Nobody can do it for you, you have to do it yourself.
Kind of hypocritical ...I'm sure this is not your first attempted to lose weight.
I think it's one thing to try losing weight several times, and another to complain about it.
I don't agree with the way it was brought across by OP, but I am very allergic to Negative Nancy's. I don't mind (and trust me, I understand, been there!!) that people fall off the wagon and have off days, but to come and complain about it constantly... Meh.0
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