so my low cal diet won't work to lose 50 pounds?

BeachIron

You have been given solid advice, backed by the experience of many, and you have chosen to ignore it.

Okay, then. Best of luck in your endeavors.

herblackwings39

A couple friends used to weight about as much as me. They signed up with a medical weight loss clinic. One has lost 40 pounds in the last two months. She eats about 900 calories a day, she's still losing. The other has hit a plateau at about 180. They don't eat sugar or salt, all protein, carb and veg. I don't eat the same thing as them.

If I could quickly get down to 180 it would be easier to focus on the best way to lose for long term health.

Could I get information instead of just bashing?

Medical weight loss clinic generally means medically "supervised" weight loss program.

MzzFaith

Research

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Research

:huh:

QuilterInVA

No one should be eating less than 1200 calories a day unless they are medically supervised in their weight loss. It takes that many calories to get adequate nutrition.

chrisdavey

Could I get information instead of just bashing?

Here you go
http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/what-is-starvation-mode-a-k-a-adaptive-thermogenesis/

cavia

You're losing lean muscle mass with such a drastic deficit. Muscle burns calories even at rest. Less muscle = less calories required for maintenance. You're trading in your 1700 calories today for how many less calories in the future? 1400? 1300? Eat at a small deficit and aim to preserve your lean muscle mass. What you're doing isn't sustainable and will backfire on you.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Well, since we've resurrected this thread. . .

It's been nearly two months, OP-- status update?

AnvilHead

Well, since we've resurrected this thread. . .

It's been nearly two months, OP-- status update?

OP hasn't posted since 5/1 and her ticker shows 14 lb. lost (she was claiming 15 lb. lost at the time of the OP), so I somehow doubt we're in for a raging success story.

megsmom2

I have absolutely nothing constructive to add to this thread. Your style of weight loss just leaves me confused and wondering why would anyone want to treat their body in such a way? :sad:

this. ultimately, it won't work. something has to give...I hope it was diet before it was her health.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Well, since we've resurrected this thread. . .

It's been nearly two months, OP-- status update?

OP hasn't posted since 5/1 and her ticker shows 14 lb. lost (she was claiming 15 lb. lost at the time of the OP), so I somehow doubt we're in for a raging success story.

systemic31

Why does everyone keep stating that you have to eat 1200 calories a day.this s bull. How can somebody who has had a gastric band fitted eat less than 1000 calories, and still lose 40-50% of their excess weight. Do some research before before you post mindless crap about starvation mode and the likes. Do some research on BMR . And calories needed to maintain your weight.not everyone has caloriific needs of 2000 cals a day.

likitisplit

OP is up to 28 pounds. If she lost all of it in the four months since the first post, she lost a little less than 2 pounds a week, and probably could have done the same on the 1700 MFP gave her. If, however, she was already at 15 pounds lost (see above), then she lost 13 pounds in four months. I lost more than that eating over 2000 calories a day.

megsmom2

Ok...so you lost some weight eating like that. That's simple physics. There comes a point though when your body is going to not take this abuse anymore. Your loss will slow to a crawl, you'll be metabolising muscle instead of fat, your hair and nails will be brittle....and you'll look and feel like warmed over dog doo. Of course....if that's what you have in mind, by all means, keep going.

Achrya

Why does everyone keep stating that you have to eat 1200 calories a day.this s bull. How can somebody who has had a gastric band fitted eat less than 1000 calories, and still lose 40-50% of their excess weight. Do some research before before you post mindless crap about starvation mode and the likes. Do some research on BMR . And calories needed to maintain your weight.not everyone has caloriific needs of 2000 cals a day.

A. Zombies

2. 1200 is a suggestion based on basic nutrition (Getting in all of your micros and macros) but no, it's not a magic number.

III. Pretty sure gastric bands and the amounts that those people can eat are the exception to the rule, not something to strive for.

Conclusion: Zombies

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Why does everyone keep stating that you have to eat 1200 calories a day.this s bull. How can somebody who has had a gastric band fitted eat less than 1000 calories, and still lose 40-50% of their excess weight. Do some research before before you post mindless crap about starvation mode and the likes. Do some research on BMR . And calories needed to maintain your weight.not everyone has caloriific needs of 2000 cals a day.

A. Zombies

2. 1200 is a suggestion based on basic nutrition (Getting in all of your micros and macros) but no, it's not a magic number.

III. Pretty sure gastric bands and the amounts that those people can eat are the exception to the rule, not something to strive for.

Conclusion: Zombies

That and they do lose a lot of lean mass, not just fat. And they're obese to start which means they can maintain a larger deficit. And zombies.

BattleTaxi

Congrats Op, you're going to ruin your metabolism, become malnourished, and might as well say byebye to your muscle and get more familiar with the fat, cuz that's all that you'll see!

ValerieMartini2Olives

Just wait until your hair starts to fall out. Or you get dizzy and fall over and crack your skull open. When you're in the hospital, they'll be giving you 1200 calories through an IV. I hope THAT doesn't hinder your weight loss.

When I was 270 pounds I ate 1975 a day plus almost every single exercise calorie back and lost weight. There is no reason whatsoever for you to be eating 900 calories a day and being proud of it.

Achrya

silken555

I'm constantly surprised by how people are determined to punish their bodies because of the way they feel about food....

You'd think I'd eventually stop being surprised at this point.

randomtai

Why does everyone keep stating that you have to eat 1200 calories a day.this s bull. How can somebody who has had a gastric band fitted eat less than 1000 calories, and still lose 40-50% of their excess weight. Do some research before before you post mindless crap about starvation mode and the likes. Do some research on BMR . And calories needed to maintain your weight.not everyone has caloriific needs of 2000 cals a day.

Strong zombie first post...

Nadine624

I wonder how many of these forum posts are actually real.

I mean, there are sooo many of them and each one is full of the same responses that one would think even newbies would think twice before starting a starvation thread.

8 months on a well balanced and healthy diet for me and plenty of exercise (both cardio and weight training) and over 90 pounds gone..... You do NOT have to starve yourself to be successful!

Fitfully_me

I wonder how many of these forum posts are actually real.

I, too, have this thought. Often.

8 months on a well balanced and healthy diet for me and plenty of exercise (both cardio and weight training) and over 90 pounds gone.....

Insert slow clap here...
Well done!!! That's a fantastic accomplishment.

You do NOT have to starve yourself to be successful!

Insert wild applause with standing ovation here...

Edit to fix error.

silken555

I wonder how many of these forum posts are actually real.

I mean, there are sooo many of them and each one is full of the same responses that one would think even newbies would think twice before starting a starvation thread.

8 months on a well balanced and healthy diet for me and plenty of exercise (both cardio and weight training) and over 90 pounds gone..... You do NOT have to starve yourself to be successful!

Congrats to you...that's so awesome!

Asterie

For everyone confused as to why she claimed to "only" be able to eat either 900 calories or 2600, my highly unqualified analysis is because if she kept up the 900 calories and lost the weight then people would have been impressed that she did it. Sort of like she's saying, "Hey, see! I was overweight because I wanted to be overweight, but I could have just as easily lost all of the weight!" As opposed to carrying on eating 2600 calories, where she could fall back on, "Well, yeah, I didn't even try to lose weight... I could lose weight if I wanted to, but I didn't want to." If she went for the in-between, then people would get to watch her progress, zooming in on the fact that she does have problem areas that she has to actively work on (like everyone else). Hope you all enjoyed!

likitisplit

Eh. No few of the people here who have had major losses do intermittent fasting just because its easier for them to get a total picture of their daily diet. I think the 900 calorie thing might be similar in strategy. She's eating limited "good" foods that don't tempt her to go over her limit, and it makes planning a lot easier for her. Chicken breast, broccoli and sweet potato every night or something. Not that I'm comparing IF (which makes some sense) to starvation (which makes no sense at all). Just speculating on effective strategies for people trying to overcome a lifetime of unfit eating habits.

redheaddee

Oh good lord. I just don't understand these VLCD. I wonder, are you really only eating 900 calories? Are you weighing and measuring every morsel? Or are you guesstimating and likely eating a more reasonable amount? Otherwise, this just makes no sense to me. My 5 year old son eats more than 900 calories a day.

ETA Ahh, nevermind. This OP was from May. :noway:

likitisplit

Better than starting a new thread on it. Also, it allows us to reality-check by peeking at profiles. I mean, if she'd reached her goal and was posting bikini pics of rippling muscle, I'd reconsider my strategy...but she didn't and is not. Looks like the MFP method wins again.

iceflow

I weighed 251 2.5 weeks ago. I'm down to 236. I should be eating 1700 calories according to the 'in place of a road map' thread. I did all the calculators.
i've been eating about 900 calories a day. Its easy for me to do and i'm losing a lot of weight. i don't think i'm capable of eating 1700 calories. I can either eat a lot of calories (like 2600) or very little.

my plan is to stay on 900 a week until I stop losing weight and then start adding 100 calories a week back. I think ill plateau around 180 pounds and probably gain back like 10 pounds while my metabolism goes up when I add back calories

Not trying to be rude but I don't see your logic in being able to eat 900 or 2600. 1700 is easily achievable.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Guys check the date on page one. The OP has not been back to this thread in a very long time.