TDEE-20% Still seems too HIGH! So now what?!?
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Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Not to butt in, and hijack the OP's thread, but are you saying you only eat as many calories as you burn? So if you burn 600 you only eat 600? Or do you mean you eat a set amount, let's say 1200, and then eat your exercise calories on top of that?
I mean if I only burn 600, I only eat 600. I actually eat a little more usually but I try to stay even.
You do realise your body needs calories for your organs to function. By only eating what you burn through workouts, you are only fueling your workouts. You're taking a huge health risk by only eating what you burn from workouts. You may not see it now, but the long term side effects can be extremely bad.
see my edit above.
i have talked to my doctor and he supports me in this so I am going to go with his professional opinion on this, no offence
i only fuel my workouts because that is all i do in a day besides walk to the bathroom or the fridge for water. I literally sit ALL day and type or lie on the couch and play vid games with my friend who tests them. So all the fuel i need is for my workouts.
In...
...to see where this goes...
...because either your doctor misunderstood what you are doing or he is an idiot (in my not-a-medical-doctor opinion, of course).
ETA: Oh, and OP, trust the system. Don't second guess the numbers before you try them. Follow the plan for six weeks and *then* reevaluate/question the system.
Haha, you're 'in' and I basically decided to check myself 'out'. I mean. What can be said, really? Far be it for me, again a non-expert, to argue with a dietitian.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.0 -
try it and see what happens . i personally got really good results with fat loss with i did TDEE - 15%.
and dont think of the number as either high or low. it's a number. your body needs what it needs.
if you arent 100% certain of what your TDEE is , then that number is as good as any to start with.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
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Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
First of all, your baby is adorable. Second, the amount you exercise is awesome, great job! Third, what you actually asked about... I would recommend that you up your calories a bit. With the amount of activity you do (and given your profile picture you might be breast feeding which also increased your caloric expenditure a bit), you need more than 1300 calories a day. If you're not comfortable with the 1993, maybe set your calorie goal as a range, say 1600-1900. I try to eat 1200-1500 a day, MFP tells me 1200 and 1500 is my TDEE - 20% as it is working out well for me. Here's a post with a lot of info which may help: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-120 -
You need calories for other things too. Such as brain function. Or...Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.0 -
so if i'm stalled eating 1800 when my BMR is 1690, i'm 5 foot 8/9 and 90 kg/200 lb, with TDEE of 2300-2600 I should be eating over 2000?
I lost consistently at what i was eating (1800) and i dunno if my stall is medicine related or a plateau!0 -
so if i'm stalled eating 1800 when my BMR is 1690, i'm 5 foot 8/9 and 90 kg/200 lb, with TDEE of 2300-2600 I should be eating over 2000?
I lost consistently at what i was eating (1800) and i dunno if my stall is medicine related or a plateau!
Have you recalculated your numbers? If so, I'd think at least part of the problem might be the medication.0 -
so if i'm stalled eating 1800 when my BMR is 1690, i'm 5 foot 8/9 and 90 kg/200 lb, with TDEE of 2300-2600 I should be eating over 2000?
I lost consistently at what i was eating (1800) and i dunno if my stall is medicine related or a plateau!
Have you recalculated your numbers? If so, I'd think at least part of the problem might be the medication.
yep i've recalculated, i eat well and balanced, i work out 4-6 days a week (and good workouts, i coach netball and get in there with them plus gym, walk, bike) and everything was going swimmingly but now bam. my cals is set at the lower TDEE - 20% ish and it was working so well. but my digestion is screwed atm, i don't think i'm processing, and i'm loathe to raise calories when my thyroids iffy!0 -
You need calories for other things too. Such as brain function. Or...Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Or perhaps they don't. If they don't know that brain functions consume up to 30% of your energy needs, they may have lower energy requirements than you or I.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
Agreed. This is not good advice and very unhealthy.
I can't believe any physician would every recommend that someone do this. Either you and he/she had a massive misunderstanding or this person is a quack who never went to medical school. If you insist on continuing this, then the next time you go see this person you should take along a log of your daily exercise and calorie intakes so that you two can have a discussion and make sure you're on the same page. And if they still agree, go to a different doctor.0 -
so if i'm stalled eating 1800 when my BMR is 1690, i'm 5 foot 8/9 and 90 kg/200 lb, with TDEE of 2300-2600 I should be eating over 2000?
I lost consistently at what i was eating (1800) and i dunno if my stall is medicine related or a plateau!
Thanks for posting this. Your stats are similar to mine and I am thinking about upping to around 1700-1800 as I am stalling at around 1570. I will give it a go!0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
i think you are trying to stir up trouble after reading your profile
just a hunch.0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
You know that is high compared to what other numbers ....?
Because you've been eating 1300, and that is the only number you've ever seen, besides the 1200 minimum sedentary people get so often?
Do you have any clue how much you used to eat before you decided to make changes?
Now that is the calorie number to compare to. And were you even doing the amount of exercise eating at that level as you do now?
To create a deficit and lose weight, all you had to do was take the previous eating level and figure out 500 calories daily to remove.
Or, eat exactly the same and do as you are with exercise, probably burning 500 or more daily almost.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
i think you are trying to stir up trouble after reading your profile
just a hunch.
Hmm. After taking a peek myself I must agree. Or, at the very least, the profile is very...interesting.
At the same time the world is full of odd folks, though odd may be a slight understatement in this case.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Not to butt in, and hijack the OP's thread, but are you saying you only eat as many calories as you burn? So if you burn 600 you only eat 600? Or do you mean you eat a set amount, let's say 1200, and then eat your exercise calories on top of that?
I mean if I only burn 600, I only eat 600. I actually eat a little more usually but I try to stay even.
You do realise your body needs calories for your organs to function. By only eating what you burn through workouts, you are only fueling your workouts. You're taking a huge health risk by only eating what you burn from workouts. You may not see it now, but the long term side effects can be extremely bad.
see my edit above.
i have talked to my doctor and he supports me in this so I am going to go with his professional opinion on this, no offence
i only fuel my workouts because that is all i do in a day besides walk to the bathroom or the fridge for water. I literally sit ALL day and type or lie on the couch and play vid games with my friend who tests them. So all the fuel i need is for my workouts.
Sounds like we have about the same activity level. I would seek a second opinion about the diet, maybe from a dietician. This is just a suggestion. I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just a little concerned.
the doctor i mentioned is a specialist in diet and nutrition.
I'm sure your doc did not recommend 600 calories a day, if you only burn 600 calories in exercise.0 -
I mean if I only burn 600, I only eat 600. I actually eat a little more usually but I try to stay even.
I was eating above my BMR for two months and steadily gaining weight. So I call bull on that and now I only eat as much as I burn or very little more. I am steadily losing weight now, not too fast about a pound a week. I feel good, not tired, not bloated like before. You have your way, I have mine. Not everyones body is the same nor is their metabolism so some people need to do things differently. If eating above your bmr works for you, great. It doesnt work for me. I dont believe that it calculates mine right so I am doing what feels right and what has proven to work for me.
lol no one is getting defensive or angry, just trying to explain to you, thats all. Just saying that this is what works for me (and it really is working). everyone is different. we cant all fit in the same diet/exercise molds.
1 lb lost "really is working"?
Well, there's one to log for seeing how progress is down the road.
This is even better than my normal advice to someone that wants to lose weight and doesn't care if it's muscle mass.
Question though, if you only eat enough calories to fuel the mechanical movement of your exercise and nothing else - why are you exercising?
Just don't eat anything would be the exact same effect, and cheaper, and take you away from your writing and whole lot less than exercise does. Then you wouldn't even have to get up for that many bathroom breaks, well, if you drink water I guess some still.0 -
you don't eat back workout calories if you do TDEE, the calories are already factored in it for you. MFP's way you do eat calories back as its not factored into it. So make sure to watch info given, as sometimes people can get it wrong.
I am
26
5'3
301lbs
I do TDEE of 30% and have been loosing inches and weight like crazy when eating the TDEE way, MFP wasn't moving for months.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Writer here and I call shenanigans. First, even if you are completely sedentary, your calorie net shouldn't be 1000. Second- don't understand why you don't exercise. Especially as a writer that sits a lot, you should still make it a point to get up and do it.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Not to butt in, and hijack the OP's thread, but are you saying you only eat as many calories as you burn? So if you burn 600 you only eat 600? Or do you mean you eat a set amount, let's say 1200, and then eat your exercise calories on top of that?
I mean if I only burn 600, I only eat 600. I actually eat a little more usually but I try to stay even.
You do realise your body needs calories for your organs to function. By only eating what you burn through workouts, you are only fueling your workouts. You're taking a huge health risk by only eating what you burn from workouts. You may not see it now, but the long term side effects can be extremely bad.
see my edit above.
i have talked to my doctor and he supports me in this so I am going to go with his professional opinion on this, no offence
i only fuel my workouts because that is all i do in a day besides walk to the bathroom or the fridge for water. I literally sit ALL day and type or lie on the couch and play vid games with my friend who tests them. So all the fuel i need is for my workouts.
Sounds like we have about the same activity level. I would seek a second opinion about the diet, maybe from a dietician. This is just a suggestion. I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just a little concerned.
the doctor i mentioned is a specialist in diet and nutrition.
I'm sure your doc did not recommend 600 calories a day, if you only burn 600 calories in exercise.
So your doctor is a registered dietician? Doubt it. Hmmmm. I am starting to wonder if the doctor card was just thrown in because I highly doubt that a medical professional would say 600cals is good enough.0 -
If you eat at TDEE-20% you don't eat back exercise calories... You are eating more to accomodate exercise based on your activity level.0
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Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Not to butt in, and hijack the OP's thread, but are you saying you only eat as many calories as you burn? So if you burn 600 you only eat 600? Or do you mean you eat a set amount, let's say 1200, and then eat your exercise calories on top of that?
I mean if I only burn 600, I only eat 600. I actually eat a little more usually but I try to stay even.
You do realise your body needs calories for your organs to function. By only eating what you burn through workouts, you are only fueling your workouts. You're taking a huge health risk by only eating what you burn from workouts. You may not see it now, but the long term side effects can be extremely bad.
see my edit above.
i have talked to my doctor and he supports me in this so I am going to go with his professional opinion on this, no offence
i only fuel my workouts because that is all i do in a day besides walk to the bathroom or the fridge for water. I literally sit ALL day and type or lie on the couch and play vid games with my friend who tests them. So all the fuel i need is for my workouts.
Sounds like we have about the same activity level. I would seek a second opinion about the diet, maybe from a dietician. This is just a suggestion. I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just a little concerned.
I am very sedentary as well and I can eat up to 1800 calories a day and still lose a good amount of weight every week. I sleep quite a few hours every day. I am on the couch or hanging out with my family all day. I do not work. I am over 300 lbs though. I do eat less than my BMR because I would prefer to lose 2 lbs a week. I don't see how I could do that if I was eating at my BMR and at my current activity level. It is hard for me to be active at my current weight. I will have to work on that over time. Just eating your workout calories sounds very unhealthy. Most fitness experts say to net at least 1200 calories a day. If I was eating that I would be starving all the time and feel terrible.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
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Carry on.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
i kinda would say if you set your goals to tdee and account for activity level just meet your tdee level deficit goal and not eat back your calories burned unless you do extra intense workout eat back a little if need be ! eat no less then a 1000 calorie deficit (-2lbs a week) So if i were you for example id eat no less then 1500 calories consumed! My opinion im by all means no expert!
i wish you the best on your journey here on MFP! :flowerforyou:
if you have issues hitting that much calories a day like i do! This is a example what i do it actual has helped me avoid plateau
EX
This is what I'm starting to doing I eat at a deficit of a 1000 (-2lbs a week) as of now due to my bmi is high.
2500 my tdee
-1000=1500
I add my consumed calories for the week on Saturday night after diary entry completion
1500 X 7= 10500
10500- what ever my total calories consumed is whatever I'm left with I eat
For example my totals are 7945 so I'm gonna eat 2555 calories today but still make healthy choices because the risk of going back to old ways is not worth it!
Only for people that eat under calories!
Note I put my calorie goal to this TDEE deficit and don't eat back my calories burnt through exercise being my tdee justifies my activities!0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
i kinda would say if you set your goals to tdee and account for activity level just meet your tdee level deficit goal and not eat back your calories burned unless you do extra intense workout eat back a little if need be ! eat no less then a 1000 calorie deficit (-2lbs a week) So if i were you for example id eat no less then 1500 calories consumed! My opinion im by all means no expert!
i wish you the best on your journey here on MFP! :flowerforyou:
if you have issues hitting that much calories a day like i do! This is a example what i do it actual has helped me avoid plateau
EX
This is what I'm starting to doing I eat at a deficit of a 1000 (-2lbs a week) as of now due to my bmi is high.
2500 my tdee
-1000=1500
I add my consumed calories for the week on Saturday night after diary entry completion
1500 X 7= 10500
10500- what ever my total calories consumed is whatever I'm left with I eat
For example my totals are 7945 so I'm gonna eat 2555 calories today but still make healthy choices because the risk of going back to old ways is not worth it!
Only for people that eat under calories!
Note I put my calorie goal to this TDEE deficit and don't eat back my calories burnt through exercise being my tdee justifies my activities!
Thanks for that info, it seems like you were the only one on this thread who actually helped me out. Everyone else was kinda going in on the lady who only eats the calories she burns from exercise. Which seems to be very low, but she says it works for her so hey!!0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
i kinda would say if you set your goals to tdee and account for activity level just meet your tdee level deficit goal and not eat back your calories burned unless you do extra intense workout eat back a little if need be ! eat no less then a 1000 calorie deficit (-2lbs a week) So if i were you for example id eat no less then 1500 calories consumed! My opinion im by all means no expert!
i wish you the best on your journey here on MFP! :flowerforyou:
if you have issues hitting that much calories a day like i do! This is a example what i do it actual has helped me avoid plateau
EX
This is what I'm starting to doing I eat at a deficit of a 1000 (-2lbs a week) as of now due to my bmi is high.
2500 my tdee
-1000=1500
I add my consumed calories for the week on Saturday night after diary entry completion
1500 X 7= 10500
10500- what ever my total calories consumed is whatever I'm left with I eat
For example my totals are 7945 so I'm gonna eat 2555 calories today but still make healthy choices because the risk of going back to old ways is not worth it!
Only for people that eat under calories!
Note I put my calorie goal to this TDEE deficit and don't eat back my calories burnt through exercise being my tdee justifies my activities!
Thanks for that info, it seems like you were the only one on this thread who actually helped me out. Everyone else was kinda going in on the lady who only eats the calories she burns from exercise. Which seems to be very low, but she says it works for her so hey!!
Netting 1000 or less (especially 600) is considered extremely dangerous. Aside from many people wanting to stop the spread of bad suggestions, as well as try to get that person help, the community also gets a bit riled up on things like this because we do have people recovering from eating disorders like anorexia and talk like this is just bad overall.0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
i kinda would say if you set your goals to tdee and account for activity level just meet your tdee level deficit goal and not eat back your calories burned unless you do extra intense workout eat back a little if need be ! eat no less then a 1000 calorie deficit (-2lbs a week) So if i were you for example id eat no less then 1500 calories consumed! My opinion im by all means no expert!
i wish you the best on your journey here on MFP! :flowerforyou:
if you have issues hitting that much calories a day like i do! This is a example what i do it actual has helped me avoid plateau
EX
This is what I'm starting to doing I eat at a deficit of a 1000 (-2lbs a week) as of now due to my bmi is high.
2500 my tdee
-1000=1500
I add my consumed calories for the week on Saturday night after diary entry completion
1500 X 7= 10500
10500- what ever my total calories consumed is whatever I'm left with I eat
For example my totals are 7945 so I'm gonna eat 2555 calories today but still make healthy choices because the risk of going back to old ways is not worth it!
Only for people that eat under calories!
Note I put my calorie goal to this TDEE deficit and don't eat back my calories burnt through exercise being my tdee justifies my activities!
Thanks for that info, it seems like you were the only one on this thread who actually helped me out. Everyone else was kinda going in on the lady who only eats the calories she burns from exercise. Which seems to be very low, but she says it works for her so hey!!
I'm really sorry about derailing the thread a bit. Things like what that lady posted bother me, because I had a friend when I was younger who started doing something similar in the 6th grade. She ended up having to be hospitalized during our freshman year of high school, because of the damage such a low calorie diet had caused.0 -
OP, you might consider posting a new thread with your original (or revised, to the point that you were able to get some info from this thread) question in a new thread with the hope that it won't be derailed quite so badly. And as much as I hate to make this suggestion, consider reporting any blatant attempts to take the focus away from the pertinent discussion in that new thread.0
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Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
i think you are trying to stir up trouble after reading your profile
just a hunch.
Indeed...
Somethin ain't right upstairs.0
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